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Mark1968
07-10-2004, 12:18 PM
Well it took a little while but I finally broke into the 117-122 range last night and yesterday!! I feel SO much better it is truly incredible the difference I feel both mentally and physically! I had a hard time going to sleep last night because I was so up on the energy of feeling so good.
I didn't even nap the day before which I normally always have to do. Probably cause the BS was so high??
I cheated a bit this morning :( with some fresh pineapple and then a little later I had a couple choclate chip cookies Mmm they were good. But the end result was a BG level of 236 :( I guess I have to be a little more strict on what I eat!
I still have yet to get to the nutrition folks
I have to call my Doc to see if he got the request of service FAX from them.
I have another question: Do I call my Doctor for another prescription for test strips? Does he then call it in?
Thanks everyone, so far so good I will be back
Mark
kcwinter
07-10-2004, 12:34 PM
I get 3 months of refills. Usually you just take it to the drug store you got it from and they will call your doctor for refills.
those numbers were great until you ate that pinapple.
Mark1968
07-10-2004, 12:38 PM
So Pineapple is bad huh? Now that is a Buuumer!
Mark
HeatherP
07-10-2004, 03:27 PM
I don't know how much pineapple you ate, but about 1 cup should equal about 15 gms/carbs. Maybe next time just one cookie, too?
I usually just call my pharmacy w/ my rx #, and they call the doc if there aren't any refills left. My doc usually gives me a year's worth.
Keep up the good work!
HeatherP
johnnylol
07-10-2004, 03:40 PM
since i been testing which ain't long lol..the highest blood sugar i had was 170....usually it's in the 90 to 120 range...
Mark1968
07-10-2004, 08:40 PM
Wow Johnny, The first week of my testing I was in the 400s I even reached 600+ once. I have done a lot better in the last week of my testing I have averaged the very low 200s to the high 200s and yesterday was the first "Normal" reading I have had since day one. How long have you been testing? I am very recently clinically diagnosed with diabetes, as a matter of fact this Monday will be the begining of week 3. So far so good I guess?
gettingby
07-10-2004, 09:11 PM
Way to go Mark!!!!!!! Keep up the good work. BTW, now that you know what happens when you cheat, maybe you won't do it very often. LOL.
Cin:-
johnnylol
07-11-2004, 12:02 PM
hi mark been testing since wednesday.. like i said highest number i have had was 170 after eating a bowl of kellogg frosted flakes...today for example i had eggs for breakfast..when i got up my bs number was 109..2 hours after later was99 before lunch again was 99...i guess if you don't eat to much really sweet foods you will do ok...still don't understand why some people's bs reading are way to high...can anyone explain that to me since i only known i had diabetes for 4 day's now...
My guess would be that your diabetes was caught in the early stages, Johnny, before too much damage was done to the beta cells that produce insulin, and that's why your blood sugar doesn't go as high as many of our does. If I ate a bowl of kellog's frosted flakes, I hate to think what my numbers would be, but it wouldn't be pretty!
One other thing and you probably realize this already - it isn't just sweet foods that you have to avoid - you have to be careful with all carbohydrates. That's because your body converts all carbs to glucose - it doesn't know nor care whether they're sugar or any other carb. (It converts proteins too, but much more slowly so they have a lesser effect on your blood sugar.) I read someplace that eating one medium sized potato is the equivalent of eating 3 tablespoons of sucrose (table sugar).
Karen
hermitladee
07-11-2004, 12:15 PM
There are different reasons that some people have much higher bs levels than other people. First, it depends on how much insulin your pancreas is still producing. A type 1 would usually have little or no insulin being produced, a type 2 would have a smaller than normal amount being produced. Second, it depends on the diet. The more carbs, the higher the bs levels. Also, some people are on insulin or oral medication that lowers their bs levels.
johnnylol
07-11-2004, 12:25 PM
hi kld yeah guess i'm lucky that it was caught early..a question to ya..do's having diabetes for years no matter how good you control it..damage even more of your cell's that produce insulin..and that eventually you will have to be on some sort of medication???
just checked again bs number was 92..you know i always eat a orange as a snack in the afternoon..and i swear my bs dosen't go up at all..in fact many time's it's gone down hmm...
This is one of those controversial subjects that not all of us agree on, Johnny, but my belief, based on a book I follow called "Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution" is that if type 2s keep their blood sugars normal, as opposed to "good for a diabetic," we can avoid further damage to the beta cells and avoid having our diabetes progress.
I've been low carbing for two years now and doing extremely well, but only a longer period of time will tell who's right.
Karen
Lorna
07-11-2004, 12:46 PM
Firstly well done. As for the 'cheating', are you type 1, if so, why didn't you just take a few more units of insulin before you had the pinapple?
Mark1968
07-11-2004, 01:37 PM
Hello Lorna, right now my doc has me on just 2.5 mg Gluybride and 4.0 mg of Avandia. It is working fairly well (I think) because my bs has dropped steadily since I started taking this medication. I still am kind of shaky on what to eat when but I am a few weeks into to this diabetes thing.
I sincerely hope that I don't need to use insulin because needles make me queasy LOL (to think I am 6' tall and 240 pounds tattooed Harley rider) LOL
Mark
Harold
07-11-2004, 03:51 PM
Mark, I'm not sure how long you have been taking these drugs, but are you aware of their sides? All of us should be aware of the side effects of the drugs we take. The Avandia in some cases cause major water retention usually noticed in the legs first, but it also builds up around the heart and can cause damage to it. The first drug that came out in this family (roziglitazone), Avandia was the second, was recalled for causing liver failure. So if you have liver problems it is recomended to have liver enzymes checked every three months to see how well your handling it. BTW I take Avandia 4 mg like you and it took three weeks for it to kick in and start working on me. Assuming you ment glyburide, sulfonlyurea family, you may find yourself going hypo, below 60, since it works by forcing your beta cells to overproduce insulin. Another possible side to this is it has been blamed for beta cell damage when taken for a long time, but not proven. This drug family was also the first family of oral drugs for Type 2 diabetes.
Johnny, to clear up the air Type 2s are insulin resistant to begin with. Only those that have been high bg for a long time develop beta cell damage due to insulin overproduction. Some of us are more or less resistant than others which depends on how long we've had it go undetected or unmanaged for those in denial. You may hear Type 2 diabetes called a progressive desease and there is no doubt left unmanaged it is. Keeping ones bg's in very tight control should halt the progression of resistance and complications. Karen's reference to "GOOD FOR A DIABETIC" is used only for preventing or delaying complications and not for the progression of insulin resistance.
johnnylol
07-11-2004, 04:20 PM
the last few posts are kind of distressing to hear:( i know diabetes left unmanaged can kill you with complication
's..that's what happened to my mom about 10 year's ago...just thinking when i had my visit with my doc last week..she said want's me to test my sugar everyday with monitor..said we'll see if it can be mananged with diet and excersize..but may have to put me on medicine...
hey mark i take it your a type 2 recently diagnosed diabetic??? strange your readings are very high compared to mine...was diagnosed last week..but judging from all the problem's i have had since last may probally had it then...talking about may 2003..that's when i first noticed a problem...i guess i am very lucky indeed...
Mark1968
07-11-2004, 04:24 PM
I have read the about the side affects of Avandia, but the description I read did not clarify the "Water around the heart issues" that clearly
(At least to me) The side affects did mention possible liver damage which I do plan to consult my Doctor about.
I have noticed that my urine has gotten slightly darker should this in your opinion send up any red flags? Again I will consult my Doc. Thanks for your reply Harold, I look forward to futute helpful information.
Mark
Harold
07-11-2004, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Mark1968
I have noticed that my urine has gotten slightly darker should this in your opinion send up any red flags? Again I will consult my Doc. Thanks for your reply Harold, I look forward to futute helpful information.
Mark
Most likely indicates you need to drink more water. Remember to ask for liver enzyme test every three months for awhile then at least once a year to see if your handling it okay and if they are normal you'll be fine on it.
Lorna
07-12-2004, 01:36 PM
I'm not a type 2, so this is a bit out of my depth, but with reference to an earlier post, can I just point out that ending up on insulin is not the end of the world. You'll get used to the needles quickly, so if it does work out that the doctor eventually thinks that is what you need, you should do it. Good Luck!
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