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Alaska
11-12-2007, 06:28 PM
How many carbs a day do you eat and why do you eat the amount you do?
I bet I eat between 200 and 300 carbs a day. 300 is on the way heavy eatin day
xMenace
11-12-2007, 06:35 PM
Usually around 200 to 240. I'm trying to cut it back a bit.
gettingby
11-12-2007, 06:37 PM
I have been averaging between 130 and 150 carbs per day since pumping. I don't know why. I just can't seem to low carb.
Penny
11-12-2007, 06:39 PM
I have 150 or less daily and still struggle to keep my numbers down...how do you do it with 300?
Alaska
11-12-2007, 06:43 PM
I have been averaging between 130 and 150 carbs per day since pumping. I don't know why. I just can't seem to low carb.
LOL that would be a low carb day for me. My endo wants me down to 180 a day..........I said good luck with that........lol
gettingby
11-12-2007, 06:55 PM
LOL that would be a low carb day for me. My endo wants me down to 180 a day..........I said good luck with that........lol
Well, by low carbing, I meant 30 to 45 carbs per day. I'm not sure how they can do it. You and I both would starve. LOL.
grace girl
11-12-2007, 07:19 PM
I eat between 70-120 carbs a day...and I don't low carb at all...it's just what I eat. How exactly do you consume 200-300 carbs a day??
Gordonm
11-12-2007, 07:27 PM
7 day average on my pump tells me 206g of carbs. I could not exist on 100 or less. I don't want to eat nothing but fat and protien. Carbs are not the enemy. You just have to learn how to manage them. I have lost weight after going on the pump eating 200g a day. Went from 150 to 140 lbs and have stayed there for a year. A1C is at 6.0. I feel like I don't eat much at all.
Handybear
11-12-2007, 08:08 PM
I eat 30 or less. I find that I can maintain my bg much better on this level. My average bg for the last 14 days is 93. My goal is 85. Just because I am diabetic doesn't mean I can't achieve normal bg numbers. Mu goal is to get of meds completely.
dgrilli
11-12-2007, 08:23 PM
And I thought my 75 to 85 abouts was equivalent to Consuming Mass Quantities.
ConeHeads got to love them.
Alaska
11-12-2007, 08:35 PM
I eat 30 or less. I find that I can maintain my bg much better on this level. My average bg for the last 14 days is 93. My goal is 85. Just because I am diabetic doesn't mean I can't achieve normal bg numbers. Mu goal is to get of meds completely.
what the h3ll do you eat?? cardboard?
what is your average daily meal like? I really am curious how the low carbers do it.
2 cups of milk are 30 carbs so you'd be done for the day
bjphilly
11-12-2007, 08:41 PM
I average 90 carbs or less a day.
Alaska
11-12-2007, 08:46 PM
what the h3ll do you eat?? cardboard?
what is your average daily meal like? I really am curious how the low carbers do it.
2 cups of milk are 30 carbs so you'd be done for the day
I average 90 carbs or less a day.
If I cut out ALL junk food and **** in my life I still couldn't come close
pdxdennisj
11-12-2007, 11:00 PM
My diabetes dietitian told me to allow 180 carbs per day. I don't know if it is based on weight but that is my approximate weight. I actually usually hold it to about 40 per meal or 120 per day.
I eat about 100g or less a day, but I do sometimes have a carb up (choccy eclair rum baba piece of pizza grilled sandwich etc)
avg day
bf apple cottage cheese heavy cream
lunch
salad meat or cheese maybe mandarin orange
or homemade lentil soup low carb toast
din dins
meat and green veg (lots of) maybe a bit of fruit or 70% lindt choc might have a slice of roast tatey if dh is having some...
I have the odd cappucino between meals, but I mostly don't snack..
I find it hard to control my bg even with insulin if I go over 50 g carb per meal...unless I am doing vigorous exercise right afterwards..
I think it's what you get used to.. I did 2 yrs < 30g so now feels positively decadent!
FYI though.. low carb is not cardboard..that's low fat... low carb is creamy fatty goodness...mmmmmmmm.....
tanyatype1
11-12-2007, 11:16 PM
I don't keep track of how many carbs I eat per day. I just eat what I want and blast for it! I think more about fat and calories because I don't want to gain weight. I told a friend the other day that if I say no to a piece of cake at a birthday party, it's not because I have diabetes ~ it's because I know how much work it'll take on the treadmill to burn it off! Don't get me wrong though ~ if I want cake, I'll eat cake!
Somewhere between 40 & 70 on average, but a bit more sometimes over weekends. I find the main problem with low/restricted carb eating is every mealtime requires some degree of preparation (=work!), and I am fundamentally lazy :D
Ailsa
11-13-2007, 02:31 AM
Usually around 40 per meal plus an extra 30-40 per day for snacks, so about 160.
At the moment I'm trying to lose weight so eat about 60 per day. I am eating a lot of salads. Mainly fruit & veg plus some protein. I am a small woman so expect a man would need more.
The impression I have from people I've talked to on very low carb diets is that they live alone & eat very bizzare food that is high in fat. However I have no idea what you must eat to consume 300 carbs a day. Presumably you don't have a weight issue (yet)
mho357
11-13-2007, 04:41 AM
I'm usually less than 200 but it varies depending on my supper. My daytime meals and snacks add up to about 80.
Mark
shabbie6247
11-13-2007, 04:44 AM
breakfast = 30grams
lunch = 30 grams
mid afternoon munch = 10 -30 grams
dinner = 40 - 100 grams (usually around 50 - 60grams though)
average total daily is about 140 grams.
if i eat over 30 grams during the day my Bg's spike up and i get tired and hungry.
night time i can pre-bolus so its easier to control.
gambi
11-13-2007, 04:47 AM
I try to eat less than 30 g per meal. Mainly to help get better control of BG and to not gain weight, though I would like to loose a few pounds. I also eat low fat.
So pretty much I eat cardboard :)
shiftzor
11-13-2007, 04:57 AM
i thought the healthy range was between 150 - 300. i eat about 200 carbs, depends on alot of enviromental factors :) and the position of the moon in relation to mars. :eek:
thomasb
11-13-2007, 06:08 AM
if no one mentioned it, it of course depends on how much you exercise as well. I need my carbs to get recover after workout.
Lot of different factors here.
kgm0612
11-13-2007, 06:49 AM
I consume, on average, 80-110 carbs a day. I am not a big eater at breakfast (15g) or lunch (15-20g) and usually consume 35-50g at dinner. I walk 3 to 3-1/2 miles a night and have a handful of almonds as a snack before bed. My 7-day pump average is 87g and 14-day of 91.
I follow this regimen because it's what works best for me. I will, however, indulge in other foods (pastry, higher carbs, etc) when the occasion arises.
Karen
I average 250/day :) I like food :D
Normally, I eat 30-40 carbs a day. No cardboard, but most of them are from veggies and salad. I eat WASA wafers with pb&J for meals, cheese in salads, meat and veggies. Normally I eat only one bread thing (whole wheat Best bread or a tortilla) a day. Some evenings we just each have a bowl of Brussels sprouts with butter, salt and pepper. Hubby makes a piece of garlic toast to go with his. I eat things like egg salad (no bread) for lunch or just a couple handfuls of celery and carrots dipped in salad dressing (not low fat.) So far, kidneys are fine and cholesterol is only slightly elevated in spite of the protein I have consumed for the last 40 years. I'm knocking on wood ;)
About a month and a half ago, I went on a binge and started eating 80-95 g carb a day (according to my pump) and now have about 5-10 pounds I need to get rid of. The only way I can do it is go back to my 30-40 carbs a day and do lots of walking. This happens every time I elevate my carbs without elevating my activity to match but for me, I can't be good ALL of the time with my diet. So, I took a break.
Mich
miss_ok_ish
11-13-2007, 08:18 AM
i think i eat about 200g I’m not shy with the carbs... at the end of the day if your taking insulin its doesn't matter coz you’ll compensate with the insulin. Unless you want to loose a bit of weight.
Plus the brain is the only organ in the body that needs sugar solely to function…. so depriving my body of crabs would basically make me brain dead or more brain dead then I already am after probably frying them with too much sugar before being Dx! haha
Ps not calling anyone here brain dead by the way xxx :)
Hey miss OK ish,
Now I have something to blame it on! :T Thanx.
Mich
Alaska
11-13-2007, 09:19 AM
I love my carbs. [I]n the last 20 or so years I've gained a grand total of 7 pounds. I pretty much eat what I want when I want but I see that changing for the betterment of my health. I just don't see how the low carbers can eat that little, still stay healthy and feel happy after eating.
I'm also a very active person, I'm always on the go so maybe I need more carbs then others. I'm 5"7 and 155 lbs
I'm like you Alaska in a way. I eat approx. 200 carbs per day, every day. I do however exercise also. My weight has remained about the same, going back to my teens over 40 years ago when I became diabetic. Now I'm not complaining, but I think what's important really is 'WHAT YOU EAT'. I never eat junk, or never have, and don't intend to ever do so. I eat lots of nutritious veg and fruit and I think it's been very beneficial for me. If I feel hungry during the day I'll eat only fruit or raw veg. I've been the same weight for yonks, i.e. 147lbs.
Jan B
11-13-2007, 10:35 AM
About 100 carbs per day. I eat two meals and 2 snacks most days.
peej07
11-13-2007, 11:41 AM
Wow I'm way off, my 7 day pump average is 380. No wonder I can't loose weight.
mark-TN
11-13-2007, 01:09 PM
I eat under 30g of carb a day and anywhere from about 2000-2400 calories (although I do not count calories). About 80% of the calories I eat come from fats. I eat three meals a day, no snacks, and I do not feel deprived or walk around hungry. I’m 6’ tall, ~175lbs, and I’m extremely active and healthy.
Typical day’s meals:
3 scrambled eggs with 2oz cheese, chopped onion, black olives and spinach.
2 cups baby spinach salad with 4 oz chopped ham, chopped black olives, little onion and tomato, home made Italian Dressing, 2 oz shredded cheddar cheese.
Mashed medium size Hass Avocado with chopped onion, black olives and spices topped with 1oz ground pecans, 3oz shredded cheddar cheese and large dab of sour cream.
Gary_W
11-13-2007, 01:43 PM
Original question was 'how many and why'.
The how many for me averages around 230-250, and that usually equates to 2000-2500 calories per day. I buy sandwiches when out and we eat out fairly regularly, but everything else is cooked from scratch. The 'why' is because I enjoy all kinds of foods and love to cook, plus I believe that a varied diet is the way to go. We'll all find out in a few years time whether I'm right or not. I could not cook and eat in a way I would enjoy whilst low carbing; whilst Mark's typical day above doubtless works well for him, I'll stick with my cornflakes and fruit, sandwiches and a varied evening meal which will include rice or pasta or potatoes etc. I just would not enjoy eating that much fat.
On top of that, I have a wife and two young children and we like to share as many meals together as possible. I don't want the children to see anyone eating differently and they have always just eaten what we eat; surely low carbing must be really difficult in a family setting if the rest of the kin eat normally (if you'll forgive the term as my normal will differ from yours).
Gary
novorapid
11-13-2007, 02:07 PM
i thought about this and i pretty much average around 250 per day i try to keep it around that, but even with this amount blood glucose running high try to compensate by adjusting dosage but not a great help, sometimes yes, 90% no, eat good no garbage no cakes pepsi chocolate, i think it's my bread intake that kills me , toast and cereal breakfast, usually salad or sandwich at lunch then the killer meal supper, need to get it under control at supper, 2-3 hours after this one bg is up around 24-25 (432-450) then have a hard time to get it down, will adjust my overnite (novolin nph) to be at reasonable level in morning.any advice.
andypoo
11-13-2007, 02:31 PM
[QUOTE=pdxdennisj;279664]My diabetes dietitian told me to allow 180 carbs per day. I don't know if it is based on weight but that is my approximate weight. I actually usually hold it to about 40 per meal or 120 per day.[/QUOTE
this is about what i was told,too. 15 grms per carb,right? If you can get about 45 per meal I believe that's good. My son and his wife did the Atkins and were only allowed 15 grms. which meant 1 carb. That's how they lost weight.
andypoo
11-13-2007, 02:37 PM
If I ate the way that I was originally taught,I would be eating a ton of carbs,with all the fruit and at least 3 slices of bread a day,3 milks a day,tons of veggies which by themself is not high incarbs but several choices of the heavy carbed ones could really add up
BlueSky
11-13-2007, 03:34 PM
... i pretty much average around 250 per day .... eat good no garbage no cakes pepsi chocolate, i think it's my bread intake that kills me , toast and cereal breakfast, usually salad or sandwich at lunch then the killer meal supper, need to get it under control at supper, 2-3 hours after this one bg is up around 24-25 (432-450) .... any advice.
It looks like you have two problems. You are eating a lot of carbs and you aren't getting enough basal insulin late in the day. So I would suggest cutting back drastically on the carbs, get your basal insulin sorted, and then re-introduce some carbs where you tolerate them best.
Try replacing the cereal and toast you are having for breakfast with eggs, bacon ,sausages, cheese etc. These foods are much better in the morning as they contain lots of energy but very little carbo. A salad for lunch is good, but until you get your insulin regimen sorted, avoid the sandwiches. At night, keep away from the starchy stuff. Instead of eating potatoes or rice, have an extra piece of chicken or fish. It will satisfy your hunger just as well but won't increase your blood glucose by nearly as much.
Part of your problem is probably that you are running out of basal insulin in the evening. Your 15 units of NPH before bed peaks the next morning and helps cover those carby breakfasts. But the insulin action from the NPH will be just about all finished by the late afternoon. This helps explain why your blood glucose is going through the roof after dinner.
Splitting your NPH between morning and bedtime shots would help. And eating low-carb will enable you to establish what the timing and dosages should be. You could also consider switching from NPH to Lantus or Levimer. When you have your basal right, you should be able to skip a meal without your blood glucose going way out of the target range. When your basals are correct, you will be able to improve your insulin:carb ratio and correction factor.
Hope this helps. :)
Gary_W
11-13-2007, 03:57 PM
It looks like you have two problems. You are eating a lot of carbs and you aren't getting enough basal insulin late in the day. So I would suggest cutting back drastically on the carbs, get your basal insulin sorted, and then re-introduce some carbs where you tolerate them best.
Try replacing the cereal and toast you are having for breakfast with eggs, bacon ,sausages, cheese etc. These foods are much better in the morning as they contain lots of energy but very little carbo. A salad for lunch is good, but until you get your insulin regimen sorted, avoid the sandwiches. At night, keep away from the starchy stuff. Instead of eating potatoes or rice, have an extra piece of chicken or fish. It will satisfy your hunger just as well but won't increase your blood glucose by nearly as much.
Part of your problem is probably that you are running out of basal insulin in the evening. Your 15 units of NPH before bed peaks the next morning and helps cover those carby breakfasts. But the insulin action from the NPH will be just about all finished by the late afternoon. This helps explain why your blood glucose is going through the roof after dinner.
Splitting your NPH between morning and bedtime shots would help. And eating low-carb will enable you to establish what the timing and dosages should be. You could also consider switching from NPH to Lantus or Levimer. When you have your basal right, you should be able to skip a meal without your blood glucose going way out of the target range. When your basals are correct, you will be able to improve your insulin:carb ratio and correction factor.
Hope this helps. :)
I personally wouldn't go with this advice without knowing a whole lot more about the amounts of insulin, whether 'Novorapid' knows how to carb count, has he / she done a basal fasting test etc. There is a bit in the post about 'using extra nph to be at a reasonable level in the morning' when (personally) I would take a correction shot of rapid if I found myself that high rather than tinkering with basals. I used to do this kind of thing and all it did was got me in a whole world of hurt.
It IS possible to eat that many carbs and keep well as many people do it. Yes, I realise that some people find it easier with higher fat / higher protein. Personally I find too much fat and protein makes my BG harder to manage, another reason for my choice of diet. My problems all came from lack of education on how to eat carbs, not carbs themselves and it is possible that Novorapid may be able to eat what he or she considers a normal diet and keep well with minor changes in diabetes management.
Gary
marked
11-13-2007, 09:13 PM
I am amazed at the response to this thread. I had no idea so many people counted carbs. For me, I have no idea how many carbs I eat. It is too anal for me. I eat simple foods dosing is always a gut check and consistency. If I do want to indulge I dose by gut check and adding 1 or 2 units of insulin to cover going high. I then do a lot of checks and react accordingly if I need to prevent a low. This works very well for me.
diabetes:life by the numbers
Mark
tanyatype1
11-13-2007, 09:57 PM
I don't count my carbs - I had to look on my pump's bolus history to see how many carbs I averaged per day :)
Alaska
11-14-2007, 12:21 AM
I am amazed at the response to this thread. I had no idea so many people counted carbs. For me, I have no idea how many carbs I eat. It is too anal for me. I eat simple foods dosing is always a gut check and consistency. If I do want to indulge I dose by gut check and adding 1 or 2 units of insulin to cover going high. I then do a lot of checks and react accordingly if I need to prevent a low. This works very well for me.
diabetes:life by the numbers
Mark
I'm curious......what's your A1C doing it that way and which type are you? a 1 or a 2??
I don't count my carbs - I had to look on my pump's bolus history to see how many carbs I averaged per day :)
Same question for you as above
I wasn't given my pump until I went through pump training and carb counting and had to pass a few tests
condensr
11-14-2007, 02:11 AM
I usually eat at least 80 grams per meal, lunch and dinner. Evening snack, 20 gms or so, sometimes more. So, that makes my daily averages 160-200+ a day. I'm not shy with the fat, either..
I'm 5'9" and 150 lbs (goes between 145 and 150), and struggle to just maintain that weight. If I cut way back on the carbs, I'd be a stick!
If my BGs are running high before a meal, I'll either wait for them to come down, or low carb that meal, though. I won't drop 80 gm cho on top of high BGs (> 220 or so). Bad idea. If they're kinda high (low 200s) I'll just give my correction + meal bolus more time to work before I eat.
Alice
11-14-2007, 07:11 AM
I count carbs simply to bolus for Humalog...not to limit carbs. I do watch my weight, so I watch my portions...but not because I think carbs are dangerous for a Type 1 taking insulin.
If I were Type 2 trying to manage on meds and diet...I would probably eat a moderate amount that worked for my body. If I had to go strictly no-severe low carb, I'd see my doctor about taking insulin to enable me to eat a more flexible diet. (Still healthy)...but I don't see eliminating carbs as an answer for glucose control.
That wasn't the original question...but I have too many friends that are Type 2 that are really struggling with their numbers and diet. All to avoid meds...it doesn't make sense to me. I worry about this as too many heart and kidney issues are appearing with my friends. But, they are all proud that they manage on "diet & exercise"...this is a concern for me.
I really don't think low-carbing is the answer for the long-run...your body still needs care and feeding (meds) of the basal glucose.
Alice, I've been low carbing pretty much since the late 70's. It just made me feel better and I got there by trial and error. When the Atkins book came out in the 70's I began to see that perhaps the ADA diet wasn't for me. The food pyramid at that time was based on lots of carbs. Now don't get me wrong, I LOVE lentil soup and refried beans, chili and oatmeal, but I eat these things in small quantities. I do it to keep my amount of insulin low because the more I take, the more room I have to make mistakes.
I actually love salads, dressings, non-starchy veggies, good fats and fresh meats and eggs. Cheesecake with splenda and nut crust...mmmmm. Sometimes I have it for breakfast with my coffee.
I could go overboard with certain breads and especially croissants, but then I'd gain too much weight, so I don't.
I guess it's just what makes each of us feel right. Check out Mark from Tennessee's home page. He doesn't appear to be suffering from his low-carb approach long term and I don't think I am either. I really do believe in doing what feels like the correct thing for each of us.
Mich
marked
11-14-2007, 09:39 AM
I am type 1 and my a1c is very good. Counting carbs is not the only way to keep good control. For me I do it just as effectively by eating simply and consistently. When I eat to fuel, I know the dose, when I eat for pleasure, I check my sugars often and adjust as needed. Monitoring is always the key to good control. I check 15 times a day.
For me it works much better this way.
Mark
Alice
11-14-2007, 11:19 AM
I guess my point is that as long as you are "owning" the carbs you are eating and treating correctly with insulin (or exercise and oral meds)...there are many ways for us to end up with good numbers. I'm sure if I had trouble eating carbs, I'd cut back to a minimum as well. But Humalog was developed to use with mealtime carbs. I don't carbo-load, but I don't minimize them either. It works for many people...I just want to voice this example of counting carbs and treating with mealtime insulin.
I would have more different concerns if my short-acting (mealtime) insulin wasn't working. Honestly, basal regulation takes more time and care for me than mealtime doses. The meals are a breeze once the basal is correct. Or, adjusted as needed.
Alaska
11-14-2007, 08:23 PM
I am type 1 and my a1c is very good. Counting carbs is not the only way to keep good control. For me I do it just as effectively by eating simply and consistently. When I eat to fuel, I know the dose, when I eat for pleasure, I check my sugars often and adjust as needed. Monitoring is always the key to good control. I check 15 times a day.
For me it works much better this way.
Mark
Your chasing your blood sugars that way. Thats what I was doing before I started counting carbs. What is a good A1C?
marked
11-14-2007, 09:06 PM
last one was 5.7 as I remember. I have been in the 5's for the last three years.
when I eat simply and consistently I am not chasing anything, it is like Alice said, as long as you are dosing correctly for the food ingested is all that matters. It is true when I eat for pleasure, I chase the lows, but it is better than chasing the highs.
Eating for pleasure is luxury that I do not indulge in often, it is just not worth it to do it that way, too much margin for error. But certainly even with carb counting lows and highs still happen, yeah? Whatever works for you the best is the only way to go. Personally I don't think diabetes is best controlled as a science,but rather as an art. Numbers are the only way the diabetic educators can teach by formulas. This disease is too personal to have a number be the guide of what I ingest and dose. I treat my diabetes by knowing my body, my blood sugars,the food I ingest and the amount of active insulin in me at any given time. I do it much better that way.
Mark
Alaska
11-14-2007, 09:27 PM
last one was 5.7 as I remember. I have been in the 5's for the last three years.
when I eat simply and consistently I am not chasing anything, it is like Alice said, as long as you are dosing correctly for the food ingested is all that matters. It is true when I eat for pleasure, I chase the lows, but it is better than chasing the highs.
Eating for pleasure is luxury that I do not indulge in often, it is just not worth it to do it that way, too much margin for error. But certainly even with carb counting lows and highs still happen, yeah? Whatever works for you the best is the only way to go. Personally I don't think diabetes is best controlled as a science,but rather as an art. Numbers are the only way the diabetic educators can teach by formulas. This disease is too personal to have a number be the guide of what I ingest and dose. I treat my diabetes by knowing my body, my blood sugars,the food I ingest and the amount of active insulin in me at any given time. I do it much better that way.
Mark
Well, some things I will agree with you on. Though a piece of white bread is calculated as 13 carbs it affects my body like it's 20 to 25 carbs so I have to bolus for it like that. If I put peanut butter on it then I really have to go far outside of what normal bolusing is.
But,carb counting gives me an idea of where to start. Sometimes I go lower, sometimes I go higher depending on how certain foods affect me. Your counting carbs, your just doing it differently.
I see a bagel, count 60 carbs and tell myself that's 5 units
You see a bagel and say.that effect's my body 5 units worth
make sense?
ladytaz
11-14-2007, 11:11 PM
I still limit my carb intake, though, I'm not as fanatical about it since starting on insulin. I eat anywhere from 75g to 150g a day. Just depends. I'd say an average is about 100g per day. Reason? Just the way I eat, I guess? Since dx, it has become a habit, so that is probably most of the "why".
The NPH keeps my BG pretty steady throughout the day [80 to 110 usually]. If I'm not eating more than 30g or so at any given meal, I usually don't have to take any R, and I stay under 140 at the 2 hour mark.
There are a few foods that I MUST take that R, no matter what my BG is [well, unless I am low], or else I'll go high [ramen noodles, sweet and sour pork and pancakes - especially!]
The difference with insulin, as opposed to the oral meds is, now, I CAN eat that high carb food IF I so choose to .... just gotta take that R! Whereas before, there was no way I could, without my BG going through the roof. ;)
I'm not a big eater anyway. Gimme three sandwiches a day, and I'm fine. LOL With hubby and son not usually home, I don't cook meals much during the week, and I happily live off sandwiches. Usually lunchmeat, tuna, grilled cheese, bacon and pb&j ... of which, the pb&j has the most carbs and is still only around 35g - 40g [depending upon how much I slather on the pb&j! LOL] That one, I do sometimes have to take some R for, depends upon my BG.
oogie_boogie888
11-14-2007, 11:25 PM
Being in school still I usually eat the same thing every day... about 60 carbs. Sometimes I'll go home and pig out, but probably no more than 100carbs... Most of the time I snack on cooked pepperoni with melted cheese and sour cream (mostly free food :D ).
It's no wonder my doctor thought I was starving myself, she told me if I didn't start eating more then she wouldn't let me on the pump. I lied to her. I just don't think someone should be forced to eat when their not hungry. :confused:
You're sure right on that, Oogie. In the old days, you had to take ____insulin and eat____ exchanges woth of food. The amount was decided by your doctor.
My mom who was not a blood and guts type was overwhelmed at giving injections, sharpening needles, my constantly high urine tests. Poor thing, she was so overwhelmed she even got out measuring cups and measured 1/2 cup of mashed potatoes by leveling them off with a knife. I hated it, too. Talk about feeling confined in my eating habits...
People had no concept then that exercise lowered your blood sugar (heck a blood sugar test took weeks to come back) so that food amounts could be adjusted. It was too by the book for me and it was unpleasant to eat when I was not hungry.
We're past all of that now. Your doctor needs to get with the program. You have a pump so you CAN eat your own personal way.
Mich
(disclaimer: IMHO :T )
marked
11-15-2007, 09:50 AM
It makes perfect sense, but to me it makes even more sense to listen to my body and eat accordingly. A meal that is low in carbs is so much easier to dose, but I do not have to know the number to do that.
I love peanut butter too, but it drives my blood sugar crazy once the fat is digested,I do a dual wave when eating it.
The more insulin injected the greater the chance of error. But whatever works is the key.
Mark
Scratch
11-15-2007, 11:25 AM
Usually somewhere in the area of 200 to 300 grams of carbs per day, depends on how hungry I get and how much I've been exercising.
Alaska
11-15-2007, 03:13 PM
It makes perfect sense, but to me it makes even more sense to listen to my body and eat accordingly. A meal that is low in carbs is so much easier to dose, but I do not have to know the number to do that.
I love peanut butter too, but it drives my blood sugar crazy once the fat is digested,I do a dual wave when eating it.
The more insulin injected the greater the chance of error. But whatever works is the key.
Mark
Same here.......though Peanut Butter is high in energy it just drives my BS levels bonkers so I tend to stay away from it.
My calorie king book helps out a ton in factoring in what I need to bolus at high carb meals while dining out
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