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noroardanto
12-23-2007, 02:16 AM
If someone offering you a way to cure type 1 without asking you for any money..at all!, will you try it?.
I'm going to try alternative medication that says will cure type 1 diabetes by restoring pancreas function. It will involves acupuncture and massaging the "connecting nerve" on my feet. I just met an old friend's brother, who said he was cured within 8 months of treatment. Wish me luck!

Btw this is not a desperate acts, just exploring the unchartered teritory.

shabbie
12-23-2007, 02:30 AM
i wish you good luck, i will be interested in following your progress.

wiseguy
12-23-2007, 02:31 AM
As long as it's free, and not potentially dangers, I say go for it. But it won't work of course.

shabbie
12-23-2007, 02:36 AM
i'm interested mainly because i know the power of acupuncture, its pretty awesome.
best i would expect for myself would be using less insulin, not exactly a cure, but its surely a valid experiment. and as with all things YMMV ;)

ant hill
12-23-2007, 02:41 AM
This sounds like "here have a millon dollars", Would you beleve it as the you can be cured. Well I don't think so. :rolleyes:

noroardanto
12-23-2007, 03:03 AM
As long as it's free, and not potentially dangers, I say go for it. But it won't work of course.

It may work or it may not. That's what I'm trying to find out. Off course I have to make sure the treatment have no dangerous side effects either way.
I bet we all knew that scientists are producing and harvesting human insulin by combining a string of e coli bactery with human dna responsible for making insulin. Can't you imagine just how very alien the idea must be at first?

Jill-O
12-23-2007, 03:07 AM
I wouldn't hold my breath for this to be a cure, but I do think ONE day there will be one.

Of course, you would not want to stop your current "traditional" treatment until you see that this new one works (sorry, but I don't think it will).

Jill

noroardanto
12-23-2007, 03:31 AM
I will continue my daily dose, consulting my doctor, and using my accu chek 8 times a day. These are part of the experiment.

noroardanto
12-23-2007, 03:37 AM
i wish you good luck, i will be interested in following your progress.

Thanks :T a lot

EasyType2
12-23-2007, 04:12 AM
A few years ago, on a British talkboard, I followed a vitriolic discussion of a patient in England who was trying near the same regimen for terminal liver cancer.

She died.

I wish you well, however.

noroardanto
12-23-2007, 04:53 AM
A few years ago, on a British talkboard, I followed a vitriolic discussion of a patient in England who was trying near the same regimen for terminal liver cancer.

She died.

I wish you well, however.

My best friend mother's had breast cancer, treated with chemotherapy, she died too. My father: diabetes and stroke finally put him to a situation where the doctors need to amputate one of his toes, after puting stent (micro wire mesh tube to prop open an artery that's recently been cleared using angioplasty) failed to unclog his leg arteries. Fighting infection, he's been given the best antibiotics available on earth..sadly, he died too. I think the most important things here is that while it is easier to focus on other's failure, it will be more productive to always be positive, open minded and be ready for any possibilities. Thanks anyway :D Cheers!

Jill-O
12-23-2007, 05:10 AM
I think the people who expressed doubt that this will work really are just wanting to be sure you don't put all your hopes in this as a cure. It's great to pursue something that "might" help, but also keep on top of your condition and be agressive with your traditional treatment -- we KNOW that works :)

EasyType2
12-23-2007, 05:56 AM
An old adage says, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If a person could demonstrate they had a 'cure' for diabetes, they would be so rich they couldn't spend the money as fast as it poured in. The very fact that the "treatment" you refer to is 'free' makes me suspicious from the gitgo.

However, do not negate the placebo effect. One spring does not a robin make.

shockme
12-23-2007, 06:07 AM
"would you believe there's a cure for type 1?" .........NO!!!!!!! accupuncture is sticking needles in a person-diabetics are constantly sticking themselves with needles and yet-still diabetic......;) trish

deansreef
12-23-2007, 06:13 AM
please share your progress with us all- lets keep hope of a cure alive people!!!!

Dean

noroardanto
12-23-2007, 06:40 AM
I think the people who expressed doubt that this will work really are just wanting to be sure you don't put all your hopes in this as a cure. It's great to pursue something that "might" help, but also keep on top of your condition and be agressive with your traditional treatment -- we KNOW that works :)


Thanks a lot :D , I won't. I am a very reasonable person. I never think this treatment will cure me as I never think that it will not cure me, not until I can proof any of them. I am a product designer, and used to free thinking, find solutions to problems, and never underestimate any ideas until they are proofed to be wrong, inefective or inefficient :T .

Jill-O
12-23-2007, 06:42 AM
I wish you nothing but the best of luck! And, know that you should take comfort in all the proven meds that are now available -- and all the advancements to come :)

I think I do understand where you are coming from. In my life, I've always been able to do what I tried to do. As long as I tried hard enough, I have always been successful. EXCEPT trying to maintain a pregnancy. Now I know it was probably undiagnosed diabetes that had been the problem. But, I do know what it's like to expect yourself to find THE solution to the problem. Just do realize there are good therapies that are there for you, if this new idea turns out not to be the ticket.

noroardanto
12-23-2007, 06:49 AM
:) Thanks again

Funnygrl
12-23-2007, 07:20 AM
No, I wouldn't believe it. It sounds like a scam.

Organizations like the JDRF are pouring millions into looking for a cure and haven't found one. Same with hospital based researchers and such. If one of those organizations finds one, I'd believe it.

Though I can assure you it won't be as easy as supplements, message, or acupuncture.

Seriously, if you think about it logically, what do you really think that is going to do to reverse an autoimmune process that killed your pancreas, then regenerate the cells in killed?

Funnygrl
12-23-2007, 07:24 AM
Also, looking at your sig- why aren't you on fast acting insulin with your Lantus? Your post prandials are higher than ideal.

Olidus
12-23-2007, 07:37 AM
noroardanto,

This kind of treatment is very controversial IMO, only casue there are many people who strongly believe in it and many who don't. My mother for one is huge into acupuncture and sears by it.
Personally I think it all comes down to what you believe, if you really think this is worth trying and believe it may work then by all means go for it. I believe that in order for something like this to work you need to believe in what you are going to be going though.

Please keep us updated with your sessions and how it goes, I for one am curious as to how you make out.

Good luck.

kidvid
12-24-2007, 04:52 AM
just exploring the unchartered teritory.

More power to you! For being brave when others criticize - Terima Kasi!

Joe

caswellhb
12-24-2007, 05:46 AM
Well, good for you for trying. Keep up the diet and exercise, meds etc. I wish you all the best.

Heather.

kstreeter513
12-24-2007, 06:39 AM
I am glad you are giving it a go too. Although I am VERY skeptical if this will work, I do think modern medicine is way to fast to treat illnesses with drugs and surgery. Look at gastric bypass surgery for example. Being overweight, with a few exceptions, is totally preventable and reversible, but we have a surgery to make it easier. All the surgery is is a forced way of eating fewer calories.

I just really hope you don't get ahead of yourself and stop taking your meds, before any results are seen.

Schlep
12-24-2007, 06:50 AM
Go ahead and try it, if it is not costing a lot of money and is not hurting you then what have you got to lose.

I am afraid to say that IMO if there ever was an actual cure for diabetes they would never get anyone to try it because of all the negative people.

A scam is only a scam if it is scamming you out of something.

I remember a Dr Mirkin who kept saying ulcers were infections and should be treated as such, everyone including all the doctors said he was nuts and continued to treat them as they were.

Guess what today he has been proven correct and ulcers are now treated as infections. Wow go figure. :confused:

Gary_W
12-24-2007, 04:38 PM
My personal belief is that the power of positive thought can be very helpful in the treatment of any condition, and if you believe that something is helping then (to some extent) it will. But there are limits to this help.

When you have the complete failure of a particular organ in the body, accupuncure isn't going to help. If it (or any other complimentary medicine) really could do this then it would already be the accepted treatment for diabetes as it has been around for centuries. You can guarantee that of the millions of T1 diabetics the world over, many will have given accupuncture and the foot rub thing a go. Every single one of them will still need the other kind of needle to give them what their own body won't make.

As others have said, if it's costing nothing then fair enough. It is good to have an open mind. What worries me about the practitioner is that some people are vulnerable enough to believe that it will definately cure them and will stop taking the insulin. That will not go well... There are WAY to many people out there on the fringes claiming that they can do marvelous things. If they really could, we'd all have heard of them and be using their methods. KStreeter's comments on the gastric problems being a bacteria are a good case in point. Whilst conventional medicine may well have scoffed for a while at the idea, it stopped scoffing when it was proven to work and accepted it into the ranks. Conventional medicine would do likewise for this treatment if it could prove that IT worked.

Regarding your diagnosis; what short acting insulin are you now on? Experimentation or not, you'll have a much nicer time of things if you get the conventional stuff sorted and settled and if you are type 1 but take no short acting then I don't quite get it. Either you've left it off your sig or something is up...

Gary

xMenace
12-24-2007, 07:02 PM
I hope those needles don't go into the feet too.

AndreLaplume
12-27-2007, 11:52 AM
If someone offering you a way to cure type 1 without asking you for any money..at all!, will you try it?.
I'm going to try alternative medication that says will cure type 1 diabetes by restoring pancreas function. It will involves acupuncture and massaging the "connecting nerve" on my feet. I just met an old friend's brother, who said he was cured within 8 months of treatment. Wish me luck!

Btw this is not a desperate acts, just exploring the unchartered teritory.

Please, some info on the 'old friends' brother...type 1, type 2, funny how his endo, upon his 'cure' did not place this in the medical journals.

oogie_boogie888
12-27-2007, 12:00 PM
I'd be scared...

Lloyd
12-27-2007, 01:18 PM
If and when there is a cure, it will be on the headline of every newspaper in the world.

evila
12-27-2007, 02:30 PM
:) Thanks again

Hi Noroardanto,

I notice you have been very recently diagnosed. One thing to bear in mind is that once you get back in control, you will start producing insulin again.

This may give you the false impresion that you are "being cured" but in reality you are not. It's called honeymoon period and it lasts anything from a couple of months to a couple of years.

Once the honeymoon period is over, you will no longer produce any insulin, and your doses will increase.

I'm a firm believer in the power of acupunture and other oriental medicine, but it is clearly documented that accupunture can not cure type 1 diabetes, as it can not cure apendicitis or broken bones...

Wish you luck,

Henry.-