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Brockisit
12-25-2007, 11:19 PM
Hello Everyone,

I forgot I signed up with this website back in 06...lol. Ok enough of that.

What I got for Christmas was some cookies that was made with no sugar, but they don't have any flavor, does anyone know how to make no sugar added sauce so I can make these cookies with some flavor? Like chocolate sauce, even vanilla, anything to add flavor would be great.

Thanks for your time in this matter.

My name is Brock
I have type 1 diabetes, and have had it for about 11 years,and having a hard time keeping it under control. Have to give up taste which I don't like,and most of my favorite stuff like orange juice, grape juice.....ex.... Please help:confused:

Funnygrl
12-26-2007, 02:23 PM
If you're a type 1, what type of insulin are you on that requires you to be so stringent with your diet?

Brockisit
12-26-2007, 02:29 PM
Mixed of 70/30 insulin

Right now I am home sick because of acid reflux disease,or throat problems.

Funnygrl
12-26-2007, 05:06 PM
You've had type 1 11 years and you're on mix? My sincerest apologizes.

Sorry I can't really help with the sugar free stuff. I don't bother with it.

Brockisit
12-26-2007, 05:10 PM
You've had type 1 11 years and you're on mix? My sincerest apologizes.

Sorry I can't really help with the sugar free stuff. I don't bother with it.

No you misunderstood. I have had type 1 since 2001. I was first diagnosed in 1996 or 1997 with diabetes type 2, then I went to type 1 in either 2001 or 2002

the 11 years are all the years I have been diabetic

Funnygrl
12-26-2007, 06:28 PM
Now I'm really confused. People don't change types. Are you an insulin dependent type 2? (just cause you're on insulin doesn't make you type 1), or were you originally misdiagnosed as type 2 then further testing found antibodies or something?

Brockisit
12-26-2007, 06:42 PM
I dont know now. The whole Diabetes thing is very confusing for people

notme
12-26-2007, 07:29 PM
Absolutely true Brock. Not only do people who don't have diabetes not understand it completely, but those of us who have it also get confusing reports from our own doctors.

Funnygirl is right in the respect that people do not change types because of the change in treatment. The best way to get an answer is to ask your doctor for tests to determine your type.

If you are taking isulin and are really a type one, you could alter your diet and increase your insulin to cover the foods that you eat. You wouldn't have to follow such a strict diet plan. There is a chance that you are type one with insulin resistance. Talk to your doctor and see if you can get it all figured out.

Brockisit
12-26-2007, 11:16 PM
Hello Nancy,

I will ask him when I get in to see him.I really think the whole diabetes thing is very confusing, watch our sugar,watch our carbs,what next. I have a question why wont they make a store for diabetics.........A place where we buy our food

TenderVittleS
12-26-2007, 11:41 PM
Hello Nancy,

I will ask him when I get in to see him.I really think the whole diabetes thing is very confusing, watch our sugar,watch our carbs,what next. I have a question why wont they make a store for diabetics.........A place where we buy our food

I can eat junk food all day and still have normal sugars, not to brag. Everybodys different though. Its not what food you eat, its how you compensate.

Funnygrl
12-27-2007, 08:49 AM
Most sugar free stuff is high carb anyways and tastes like ****. The key to a healthy diet is a generally well rounded diet that would be healthy for anyone and moderation.

notme
12-27-2007, 09:12 AM
Hello Nancy,

I will ask him when I get in to see him.I really think the whole diabetes thing is very confusing, watch our sugar,watch our carbs,what next. I have a question why wont they make a store for diabetics.........A place where we buy our food

I'm not sure a store for "Diabetes" would fly Brock. It would be highly expensive and be mostly foods that we could buy at our local grocery store. Foods you should consider are whole foods. Veggies, some fruit, whole grain breads and proteins. The real challenge is to compensate for the carbs in these foods.

A good place to start is looking at a site that lists foods that are low on the glycemic index. It will help you to understand how foods will effect your blood sugar dramatically. Google "Glycemic Index" and find a list. Find foods to eat that are in the low to moderate range and test often. You will quickly learn what foods you can eat, and what foods drive your sugar high.

Insulin is helpful in keeping your blood sugar in the normal ranges. Talk to your doctor about a short acting insulin after meals if you find that your blood sugar is high two hours after you eat. Especially, if you are eating foods that are low on the glycemic index and you still can't get a good reading.

Good luck. Keep reading here on this site and I think you will find a lot of good information to help you understand things. Ask questions. Great people here with good ideas.

DanG
12-27-2007, 06:39 PM
Most sugar free stuff is high carb anyways and tastes like ****. The key to a healthy diet is a generally well rounded diet that would be healthy for anyone and moderation.

Sugar free is the new name for food with chemicals.
Sucralose, nutrasweet, etc - all chemicals with unknown complications in long term use in human bodies. Sure, searle and monsanto got approvals, but the truth is these chemicals have unknown long term effects.

Follow advice others have said here about real food - skip the fake sugar junk. It may be marginally satisfying, but your body knows better and is not satisfied, therefore you eat more and continue to be unsatisfied. Eat a bit of real food - which your body needs in order to grow and you eat less, because your body is satisfied.

I hate "sugar free" foods, as all that label tells me is that they have put fake sugar in with some real food and ruined its fruitfulness for my health. They don't care about my health - they care about their wallets and their bottom line. ...of course, truth be told, I don't care about your health either... but I am not peddling chemicals for you to ingest...

DanG
12-27-2007, 06:47 PM
Now I'm really confused. People don't change types. Are you an insulin dependent type 2? (just cause you're on insulin doesn't make you type 1), or were you originally misdiagnosed as type 2 then further testing found antibodies or something?

I am a boondoggle from the boondocks and I really do not know what the difference is that you speak. I guess I have always thought type 1 is insulin dependent. Of course, having had diabetes for 34 years, and never been to the doctor much for these modern testings, I assume I am type 1 (currently doing lantus in AM & humalog, previously on single daily injection of lente - that's what the doc ordered, and I did that for close to 30 years...).

Tell me/us more about these antibodies testings?
While I have insurance to cover some prescriptions, I am not prone to spend dollars on testings that only tell me things about which I can do nothing.

So, what is the real difference if I know I am type 1 taking insulin, or if I am type 2 taking insulin? I still take insulin, right?

Thanks for the introduction to some thought stimulating ideas.

Funnygrl
12-27-2007, 09:37 PM
I am a boondoggle from the boondocks and I really do not know what the difference is that you speak. I guess I have always thought type 1 is insulin dependent. Of course, having had diabetes for 34 years, and never been to the doctor much for these modern testings, I assume I am type 1 (currently doing lantus in AM & humalog, previously on single daily injection of lente - that's what the doc ordered, and I did that for close to 30 years...).
Type 1 and Type 2 are essentially totally different diseases, though the outcomes and treatments may be similar and the line differentiating them may blur.

Type 1 is an autoimmune disease. Your body kills the islet cells of the pancreas rendering them incapable of making insulin. It can occur at any age and is not associated with any lifestyle factors. It requires insulin from the beginning and can cause DKA if insulin isn't used.

Type 2 is a disease associated with insulin resistance. This can be "encouraged" by lifestyle factors and age, but is also strongly genetic and linked to race. The pancreas tries to keep up with the resistance by making more and more insulin, however, the islet cells tire and get to a point where they can no longer keep up with the production and eventually make less or eventually none. Then injected insulin is required. The resistance aspect of type 2 can be treated to a degree with pills. So, you can be type 2 and still need insulin.

Current methods of classification base the type on the origin of the disease, not whether insulin is needed or not or age at diagnosis.

Tell me/us more about these antibodies testings?
While I have insurance to cover some prescriptions, I am not prone to spend dollars on testings that only tell me things about which I can do nothing.

Remember how I said that an autoimmune process kills the pancreas in type 1? This can leave antibodies in the blood that can be tested for. However, they are only positive in 60-80% of type 1s, so they aren't completely conclusive. Insurance typically does cover this.

So, what is the real difference if I know I am type 1 taking insulin, or if I am type 2 taking insulin? I still take insulin, right?
What type you have does and doesn't matter to a degree. Type 1s will often have wider fluctuations in blood sugar while type 2s have insulin resistance that needs to be treated and can require HUGE doses of insulin. Further, type 2 can go longer without being diagnosed, so complications need to be assessed for sooner after dx.

The line can blur though, since some people have a few aspects of type 1 and a few of type 2, or many of both.

NoraWI
12-28-2007, 04:09 AM
And to further complicate matters, there's also T1 LADA. LADA stands for Latent Autoimmune Diabetes of Adults and is a slow progressing Type 1. Some people call it T1.5. Those with LADA still have some function in their pancreas that frequently throws a monkey wrench into insulin dosing. They typically have no insulin resistance, most are not overweight nor do they have high blood pressure, high cholesterol nor high insulin levels. The test for LADA is a GAD65 antibody, which may show active antibodies depending upon the duration of the disease. When there are no more active beta cells in the pancreas, the autoimmune attack subsides and there are no antibodies left to show up in the test.

No matter whether T1 or T2, diabetes is an inability to process carbohydrates. It makes little sense to keep overloading the body with something that requires large doses of insulin to control. Curbing carbohydrates and eating small portions of only those that provide maximum, dense nutrition makes sense and definitely helps keep insulin doses smaller. Small numbers also mean smaller mistakes and small corrections. And all that helps to keep one in tight control... with numbers in the non-diabetic range. Numbers in the non-diabetic range keep complications at a minimum.

bryan42
12-28-2007, 05:09 AM
Try dipping them in sugar free pudding! Its GREAT!

Funnygrl
12-28-2007, 06:55 AM
No matter whether T1 or T2, diabetes is an inability to process carbohydrates. It makes little sense to keep overloading the body with something that requires large doses of insulin to control. Curbing carbohydrates and eating small portions of only those that provide maximum, dense nutrition makes sense and definitely helps keep insulin doses smaller. Small numbers also mean smaller mistakes and small corrections. And all that helps to keep one in tight control... with numbers in the non-diabetic range. Numbers in the non-diabetic range keep complications at a minimum.

I'm not recommending overloading on carbs and chasing it with high insulin doses. I'm recommended a well balanced diet, which includes things like fruit, which the original post said she avoids, includes occasional treats, and doesn't try to find sugar free work arounds which are high in carbs and calories anyways.

Sheralyn
01-05-2008, 12:10 PM
I suffer from acid reflux; in fact, at one time I developed 3 "reflux ulcers" in my esophagus. Prilosec (I have to take one in the morning and one before bedtime) works great. Good luck.

Sheralyn
01-05-2008, 12:12 PM
Brian42 -- You mentioned sugar-free puddings. I love them, but the packages say they contain a lot of carbs. Isn't that the same as sugar?

I'm very disappointed, as I've noticed many "sugar-free" items are HUGE in carbs, so now I get NO sweets :( Except for sugar-free jello, and I swear I'm living on that stuff.