Little worried

[Injecto]

So, it's been a while since I've brought up my own D issues and what better place to do it than right here on the DF.

See, my problem is I haven't had a hypo in 22 days. Now, before ya'll jump on that and think "great", it's been at the sacrifice of keeping my BGs high. My meter averages are all in the 8s now, when I used to have them down in the 6s. It's all getting my pretty bummed about D and life etc....

So, not sure what to gain by posting this other than I need an outlet and the DF is it.


You can see an image of my last 22 days below.
BTW, blank spaces are places I just didn't test. I've been really bad at testing too.

[Mich]

Injecto,

Fear not. It looks like Christmas season with lots of stress and too many goodies. You will be right back on track soon.
I wish you a good solid 6 in January :T

Mich

[xMenace]

Good stuff!

Morning fastings look good which is worrisome because your before beds are high. Either you need to cut back basal or you've been correcting well. I assume your basals are on. Ever had middle of the night hypos?

Your PP's, especially lunch and dinner need some work. Cut back a bit on the white carbs, the quantity, and up your ratios a smidgen. Perhaps pre-bolus a bit more too.

[Maddogg]

Thats looking pretty darn good man! You've got a few highs and no hypos (for me hypos start below 3.5) and we can all expect more highs during the holiday season. Your results are really good for this time a year. Good job!!

Plus your testing 7 times a day on most days which is excellent and perfect for good control, I only test 3 or 4 times a day to save money of those expensive *** test strips. My blood sugar result are far less stable and predictable than yours as a result of that...

[RobiJo]

Injecto,

Fear not. It looks like Christmas season with lots of stress and too many goodies. You will be right back on track soon.
I wish you a good solid 6 in January :T

Mich

ditto 'tis the season

I've been in a bit of a lull myself.

[duck]

Injecto,

Fear not. It looks like Christmas season with lots of stress and too many goodies. You will be right back on track soon.
I wish you a good solid 6 in January :T

Mich

That was sort of my first thought as well, except it was more along the lines of "winter" and slightly higher sugars. I don't have any evidence to back me up, but it seems my personal diabetes urban legends tell me I am generally higher in winter, all things being equal.

[caswellhb]

Could you point out the bit you are worried about please? I hear that you are worried and we all want to help. I'm just not that good at charts I guess. Point it out to me?

Heather.

[Gangrel]

Dude, dude, dude, dude. You already know what I'm going to say, don't you? :P

I'm going to say it anyway.

What's 5 + 10?

15.

Divide that by two. What do you get? 7.5.

Oh no, throw in a 6 and another 10. Now you have 31. Oh oh, now you're up to 7.75. That's close to 8, which is what you are worried about, n'est-ce pas?

What I have described is what I call a perfect diabetic day (or part thereof). You have a 5 and a 6 before a meal? Perfect. You go up to 10 after? Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.

I have said this to others before when they get concerned about what they see as "high" averages. *DOING CONSTANT POST-MEAL CHECKS WILL ALWAYYYYSSSSSSS* RAISE YOUR AVERAGE.

The caps aren't for yelling, they are for emphasis.......

If you REALLY want to lower your average? Simply stop doing post meal checks. And in my mind, you SHOULD stop doing post meal checks. When I see your chart, and see that 96% of your pre-meal readings are IN TARGET, why bother doing post meal checks? You know what you are doing!

Do one occasionaly, sure, or if you eat something weird, feel high, etc.... but you (and by you, I include all of us diabetics) shouldn't need to do them all the time once we are "dialed in" to a good routine.

Anyway, I'm combining two things into one here, aren't I, and I'm not even drunk! :P

To go back to your original point, you have nothing to worry about. Metre averages are nothing but ****ty lies, in my honest opinon. As our good friend from Winnipeg can attest to, I was stressed a little and worried about my last A1C because I got caught up in the "average checking" too. I figured my A1c would be in the 7's!!!! based on what I was seeing.

But it was the lowest it's ever been.

Stay away from the trap. I challenge you (and everyone else here actually) to avoid looking at your metre averages for one month. They just cause worry. Look at ACTUAL values if you want. Make sure you hit the targets. But don't even bother with averages. Say, you test 2 or 3 times after meal... there goes the "average"........

[Gangrel]

Sorry, a day later, and I realize my post might seem a little snarky. I'll chalk it up to driving 8 hours on the 401 and being tired.... :P

I do stand by my point though, that post meal checks drive up averages like nobody's business...... and I hope people can find a happy medium with how they live versus having reasonable numbers.....

Anyway, i'm going to have a nap now.... Zzzzzzzzzzz

[xMenace]

Sorry, a day later, and I realize my post might seem a little snarky. I'll chalk it up to driving 8 hours on the 401 and being tired.... :P

I do stand by my point though, that post meal checks drive up averages like nobody's business...... and I hope people can find a happy medium with how they live versus having reasonable numbers.....

Anyway, i'm going to have a nap now.... Zzzzzzzzzzz

I am mostly with you. PP's definately drive up averages. I amost totally ignore my averages because I test a lot when I'm high and monitoring the fall.

I don't agree that high pp's are acceptable. IMO they don't need to take a lot of work. It's not rocket science. Once you discover how to get them down, it's largely repeatable - no extra work.

[CaptainMike]

Looks like most of your higher #'s are lunchtime PP's. maybe cut down carbs or portions at lunch? Increase ratio for that meal? Bolus earlier, test later? I dunno, just tossing out ideas.

Best of luck and best wishes at getting/staying on track. My numbers are all kinds of wacky this month as well,
Perhaps "Tis the season?"
Mike

[Gangrel]

I don't agree that high pp's are acceptable. .

I never said that I think high pp's are acceptable. To me, anything 10 or less is fine. After double checking his chart, I noticed a few 12s and 14s after lunch, and I agree those should be taken care of......

Now, if you're telling me you think a 10.0 pp is high, then we'll polietly agree to disagree. :D

[Emm]

Winter will do it... Christmas will do it... and really, your numbers look pretty good most of the time!

It's great you're testing lots, and those morning numbers suggest that you're sitting pretty overnight, which will take your true average down a bit.

Whatever you do, don't stress eh? Sucks for the BGs, and for peace of mind.

You know what you're doing, you're a smart person and if you want change you'll do it.

Also remember that your numbers are still better than sooo many other D's... not that that helps YOU as such, but I think sometimes we expect too much from ourselves, and it helps to remember that we're actually doing pretty darned well thank-you-very-much.

[deansreef]

checking 2hs after a meal is the best way to see how I am controlling my BS...just my 2 cents.

[caswellhb]

Well, I'm still confused. Looks ok on the whole to me.

Heather.

[Injecto]

Thanks for the many responses peeps. I'm just not used to having no hypos, especially for that long. I'm on day 24/25 now? Not sure, exactly anymore.

For me, I don't usually see numbers above 10, and as you can see (and there are many more not recorded on the sheet) above 13 even. So, that many highs with no lows is freaking me out. Two days ago I decided to not eat anything for the whole day just to see what would happen, a kind of grumpy basal test if you will. I managed to stay well between 4.5 and 6.0 all day, and same for the next day (but I ate as little carbs as I could).

So, I'm trying to stay off as many of the worst carbs (extra sweets and stuff) just to see what happens.

Thanks for letting me vent.

[Cyborg]

Personally, I also hate to see high PP numbers. As already suggested, try bolusing a little sooner before those difficult meals. And make sure your carb counting is accurate. You could also figure out if protein affects you so you could manage that aspect also if desired. Having good pre and post meal bg every day can be extremely difficult, if not impossible...

[Sheralyn]

Dear folks --

I'm an old lady, but I know what "word up" means!

However, what do "snark" and "bolus" mean?

Thanks!

[Cyborg]

Bolus insulin is a dose of insulin taken to correct bg or for eating, as opposed to basal insulin which is taken to offset the naturally occuring glucose produced by the body.

[mg_2204]

To me, anything 10 or less is fine.

Apparently people who don't have diabetes go as high as 10 (and even 11 and 12) after a meal.

[miss_ok_ish]

Apparently people who don't have diabetes go as high as 10 (and even 11 and 12) after a meal.

This is very true, over xmas, my whole family wanted to see what happened to their bloody sugar after stuffing themselves full of food and booze... and 2 out of the 10 of us were over 10mmol and that’s not including me... i was 14mmol hahahaha.

They are defiantly not diabetic either.
The others in my family liked to show off with their 4's and 5's...

yeah whatever! haha

[JediSurfer]

Good numbers for the Christmas period mate. Keep your chin up and beat the D with a stick.

Can be slighty worring for me if I go along while without a hypo. But its the nature of the beast.


Rich