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trinasangels
01-02-2008, 02:06 AM
Hello. I am new here. I am type 1 diabetic. Growing up I was not on meds.

Last week I became very thirsty , face numb, tireddddd and well just didnt want to do or eat anything. tested BS after feeling this way for a couple weeks ( had not been having problems for a few years) and my bs was over 400 . Called Dr and was sent to the ER. Er put me on Metformin Hcl Er 500 and sent me HOME!

Later that night my BS went up to 575 , went to a diffrent Er , received a insulin shot and Glipzide Er 5 mg

Later that weekend ( it was Friday when I went to 1st two Er visits)

Later that weekend my BS stayed around 400-500.

Monday called Dr and she said why are you not admitted to the hospital? I called and told them to admitt you! Well needless to say she seen me right away.

I had fasted the night before incase she had wanted to do any test( I knew she would see me right away)

My Bs a hour after waking up and going in was 350 and i had ketones in urine and I believe she said calicuim also.

She started me on Lantus pen ( 30 units ) and keep taking the pills for this week. Call if it goes over 400 and she'll tell me how much more Lantus to take. ( this was all a rush since she was only open a couple hours due to holiday)


I have been taking the shots and pills and watching what I eat very close. My husband is a cop and has a bit of medical training so has been helping me.

waking up my Bs is around 300 still.

the lowest my Bs has been is 240 which was late last night but I woke up to it high again.

After I eat it seems no matter what I eat it stays between 300and 375.

I was VERY happy to see the 200's!!! and was very glad it was in the 300's and not 500's or 400's. BUT shouldn't it be in the 100's already? I've been taking shots for 3 days now and pills for 5 or 6 days now.

I know it takes time to level out and get lower but how long? It is dangrous being this high so I am a bit worried.


I am so greatful I am not in 400's or 500's but I am still a bit frustrated and I am still very tired and just wore out. :(


any help?

I go back to see her again Monday

ant hill
01-02-2008, 02:29 AM
Hello Trinasangels, And welcome to DF.
Are you able to increse the Lantus say 2U and see that would help and is this insulin shot once a day as It would be an idea to split the dose and take it one in the morning and then another one befor you go to bed. ;)

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 02:47 AM
thanks for your reply :)

yes it is once a day . I will try spliting it. Monday I had to take 40 units( called dr and was told to take 10 more)

I guess I just feel my bs should be in 100's already

SueM
01-02-2008, 03:28 AM
Sounds to me as if you need a rapid insulin too. IE inject before meals.

mho357
01-02-2008, 03:38 AM
Hello trinasangels and welcome to the forum.

Mark

ant hill
01-02-2008, 03:59 AM
Yeah take 10U and see what happens. However how much you weigh (Sorry for being so rude here) as the dose can be calculated to weight as I know that the Lantus is at 0.4U / Kg so say that you are 100Kg then you would use 0.4 * 100 = 40U
Do that make any sense??

silverfrost
01-02-2008, 06:35 AM
Yeah take 10U and see what happens. However how much you weigh (Sorry for being so rude here) as the dose can be calculated to weight as I know that the Lantus is at 0.4U / Kg so say that you are 100Kg then you would use 0.4 * 100 = 40U
Do that make any sense??

That calculation works pretty well for me. It's only 1 unit off or so, but its about there.

I would also agree that you need the fast-acting insulin. That's really what brings you down to where you are supposed to be. Lantus certainly wouldn't do it for me- especially when I first started insulin therapy. Also, even when I did use Humalog (fast-acting) when I began shots, my BG stayed very high for a long time. It took me a WHILE to get good readings- as in a couple of months. (This was the time I was learning how Humalog worked and how carb-counting happens.) I would contact your doctor about taking insulin at meal times. Good luck, and let us know your progress.

Olidus
01-02-2008, 07:49 AM
Hello Trinasangels,

Welcome to DF. Being frustrated is only normal, it sounds like you are on the right track to get control back. These forms were the best thing to ever happen to me, I learned more on here then any doctor specialist I have seen yet.

Be patient and if you have any question at all ask away on here. Just remember that a stupid question is a question not asked.
To help some of us get more familiar with your situation would mind sharing your A1C results? How long have your BGs been this high?
I agree with others on the rapid - if the Long Acting does not keep you under control.

xMenace
01-02-2008, 08:58 AM
Welcome.

They'll wait a bit to see if the metformin kicks in. It can take a few weeks to take effect. They'll probably eventually max you our at 2000mg before trying all insulin.

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 10:46 AM
Yeah take 10U and see what happens. However how much you weigh (Sorry for being so rude here) as the dose can be calculated to weight as I know that the Lantus is at 0.4U / Kg so say that you are 100Kg then you would use 0.4 * 100 = 40U
Do that make any sense??



it's not rude :)
I weigh 180 and I am 5 foot 8

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 10:59 AM
Hello Trinasangels,

Welcome to DF. Being frustrated is only normal, it sounds like you are on the right track to get control back. These forms were the best thing to ever happen to me, I learned more on here then any doctor specialist I have seen yet.

Be patient and if you have any question at all ask away on here. Just remember that a stupid question is a question not asked.
To help some of us get more familiar with your situation would mind sharing your A1C results? How long have your BGs been this high?
I agree with others on the rapid - if the Long Acting does not keep you under control.



First thank you all for the warm welcome.

My Dr did not tell me what my A1 was but did say it had been high for over a month.

It is 265 today ( i slept in) I am fixing to eat lunch ( salad) I'll post what it is after.


my body feels so BLAH!

Alice
01-02-2008, 11:01 AM
Welcome! The Lantus is working on only half the problem...that is your basal (baseline) insulin requirement for before food.

You will always run too high if food is not treated with a fast-acting insulin. The Metformin would only work (typically) if you were still producing insulin. Some use it to boost insulin, but that's jumping the gun for you.

Get back to doctor asap and see about taking a fast-acting insulin with your meals. This is adjusted by how many carbs you consume in a meal. You will learn to adjust that dose according to what type of carb later.

I might suggest visiting an endocrinologist as soon as possible, if you haven't already.

Good luck, it will be like brushing your teeth (standing upside down?) before you know it!

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 11:43 AM
:( I went to take my shot and I forgot to dial the knob so had to reshoot. that SUCKED. I am testing again in a hour. I just called Dr to see if there was something i could take before meals for now on but she is out until Monday( which is when my appointment is)

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 01:16 PM
up to 436 now :(

notme
01-02-2008, 02:28 PM
Hi Trinasangels. We have all been through this frustration when first diagnosed. Treatment for diabetes is pretty straightforward once you get the basics down. You need to steer clear of processed foods. Foods that are made with white flour for now should be off your diet plan. This means breads, crackers, cookies, chips, cereal or pasta. Stick with fresh veggies, whole grain breads, salads and proteins. Make sure you are careful about portion size.

Test your blood sugar before a meal and then test again two hours later. This will give you some valuable information.

Exercise is key. Try some moderate exercise like walking or bike riding to lower your blood sugar.

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 03:57 PM
Hi Trinasangels. We have all been through this frustration when first diagnosed. Treatment for diabetes is pretty straightforward once you get the basics down. You need to steer clear of processed foods. Foods that are made with white flour for now should be off your diet plan. This means breads, crackers, cookies, chips, cereal or pasta. Stick with fresh veggies, whole grain breads, salads and proteins. Make sure you are careful about portion size.

Test your blood sugar before a meal and then test again two hours later. This will give you some valuable information.

Exercise is key. Try some moderate exercise like walking or bike riding to lower your blood sugar.

thanks :) I do walk everyday. and test before and 2 hours after a meal. I eat pretty good. ( except I dont like meat) so I eat a lot of veggies! I am staying away from bread and such.

The on call Dr called me back and upped my shots 8 more units and and had me to ahead and take 10 now since it was so high. I asked him about spliting it up morning and afternoon and he liked that idea, so starting tomorrow i'll do that.


It seems to me I cant eat ANYTHING no matter how good it is without causing my BS to go sky high. I am sure once we get the numbers down and on the right amount of shots this will get better.


I just hate the up and down feeling. When my bs is real high i feel really bad. face numb, headache reallly tired and thirsty. when its down I feel a lot better but can tell when its going up.

Alice
01-02-2008, 04:05 PM
While I normally believe in "lots" of exercise for diabetics, I think it is dangerous to exercise with glucose levels such as this newly diagnosed person is exhibiting. I've been told by two endo's that exercise when over 240 is a strain on the heart. That's why so many undiagnosed people end up in the hospital with heart problems...

You will be able to eat carbs once you are correctly medicated. For now (and I'm having a hard time understanding why your doctor's office is so relaxed about your high numbers) you should avoid all carbs.

I don't believe in avoiding carbs as a rule, but you seem to be in a rough spot this week/weekend. Is there some other doctor/endo you could see?

If you are Type 1 and not producing any insulin, you are in a serious spot here...even for a few days. I don't want to alarm you, but numbers in the 400's are extremely high. Please seek the assistance of another doctor while your doctor is away. I'm sure your doctor will understand.

Also, log all your glucose meter numbers...it will help make a faster decision.

Alice
01-02-2008, 04:10 PM
Sounds like you were posting an update as I was typing! Glad you reached an on-call doctor. Eight units is a big increase of Lantus, so keep glucose tabs handy. I don't want to go against your doc's advice, but you might up it 4 units then another 4 next day...just a thought.

Alice
01-02-2008, 04:14 PM
Gosh, me again. I'm concerned that the doc's are using Lantus for your meal coverage. Are they aware that a short-acting insulin was never prescribed? You were diagnosed as a Type 1 and only Metformin was prescribed? I'm very shocked over this, but what do I know (after 42 years of D?)....

I would go ahead and schedule a visit to an endocrinologist.

gettingby
01-02-2008, 04:49 PM
Alice, I was on the same thinking process as you. If she is type 1, then why the Metformin. Why not rapid??
Hello trinasangels and welcome to the family. If possible, see about getting another doctor. It sounds like you should at least be on a rapid insulin. Did I misunderstand or did you say in a previous post that you have been a diabetic for a while? If so, then why weren't you on insulin before?
Sorry for all of the questions but I am concerned for your health and well being.

Maddogg
01-02-2008, 05:08 PM
Sounds like you need to take some fast acting insulin like Humalog to get those blood sugars down must faster... Someone mention exercise and that can definitely help improve the effectiveness of insulin and any medication you take for your diabetes.

Welcome to the forum and take care...

ant hill
01-02-2008, 05:10 PM
up to 436 now :(

Don't worry Trina, What dose is your Lantus at the moment?
At 436 is high but increase the Lantus again buy 2U and see how you go and test during the day as that will give you an idea.

Exercise is key. Try some moderate exercise like walking or bike riding to lower your blood sugar.

Yes Nancy, Exercise is a BG lowering tool too and wile you are out there doing your exercises take something sweet with you as this will get you out of trouble if you fall low. :)

I asked him about spliting it up morning and afternoon and he liked that idea, so starting tomorrow i'll do that.

Yay, That's the go!! as this will grantee the continuous flow of the Basel. :D

Gosh, me again. I'm concerned that the doc's are using Lantus for your meal coverage. Are they aware that a short-acting insulin was never prescribed? You were diagnosed as a Type 1 and only Metformin was prescribed? I'm very shocked over this, but what do I know (after 42 years of D?)....

I would go ahead and schedule a visit to an endocrinologist.

Yes Alice, I would see an endocrinologist too as they have a better idea of diabetes than doctors do. ;)

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 05:14 PM
Alice, I was on the same thinking process as you. If she is type 1, then why the Metformin. Why not rapid??
Hello trinasangels and welcome to the family. If possible, see about getting another doctor. It sounds like you should at least be on a rapid insulin. Did I misunderstand or did you say in a previous post that you have been a diabetic for a while? If so, then why weren't you on insulin before?
Sorry for all of the questions but I am concerned for your health and well being.

It's ok I am a bit confused why I am not on fast acting and why I am not in the hospital with them getting it down to a safer level.


I have been diabetic most my life but dont wanna go in a long drawn out post about my childhood and the reasson why I was not on meds.


I did try pills when I got married but they didnt work ( i didnt need pills I needed insulin)

I decided to try to control it by diet. I think I got so used to feeling so sick I didnt even notice when it was higher. but now i can REALLY notice when it goes over 400 +

I am going to call and try to get in to another Dr tomorrow.

not sure why they kept me on the pills ( that the Er put me on) she just to continue to take them until Monday

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Don't worry Trina, What dose is your Lantus at the moment?
At 436 is high but increase the Lantus again buy 2U and see how you go and test during the day as that will give you an idea.



Yes Nancy, Exercise is a BG lowering tool too and wile you are out there doing your exercises take something sweet with you as this will get you out of trouble if you fall low. :)



Yay, That's the go!! as this will grantee the continuous flow of the Basel. :D



Yes Alice, I would see an endocrinologist too as they have a better idea of diabetes than doctors do. ;)

I am now on 38 units a day but had 40 today ( as directed by dr)


Alice I dont usually take it at meals but got up really late today and took it with lunch ( I woke up around lunch time LOL i am not lazy I promise I was just wore out! and couldnt sleep last night) Then Dr had me take more when it got over 400. which was a few hours after meal.

ant hill
01-02-2008, 05:21 PM
I am going to call and try to get in to another Dr tomorrow.

Trina, Please get a referal to a endo, Pritty please!!!!

notme
01-02-2008, 05:22 PM
I think there is some major confusion here. When I posted about exercise, I assumed you were type 2. I think you may be confused also trinasangels. Type one diabetes can never be controlled by diet or even diet and pills. A person with type one diabetes will be on insulin or they will die. My guess is you have type two diabetes or possibly 1.5 and your pancreas is slowly shutting down. This could possibly account for the very long honeymoon period.

I think your best bet is to not take any advice here right now. You need to talk to a doctor you trust and if your blood sugar stays extremely high, go to the ER. Sounds like there is a lot of confusion to your diagnosis and treatment.

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 05:51 PM
I think there is some major confusion here. When I posted about exercise, I assumed you were type 2. I think you may be confused also trinasangels. Type one diabetes can never be controlled by diet or even diet and pills. A person with type one diabetes will be on insulin or they will die. My guess is you have type two diabetes or possibly 1.5 and your pancreas is slowly shutting down. This could possibly account for the very long honeymoon period.

I think your best bet is to not take any advice here right now. You need to talk to a doctor you trust and if your blood sugar stays extremely high, go to the ER. Sounds like there is a lot of confusion to your diagnosis and treatment.

I was sick basically my whole childhood because of being diabetic . I wont go into detail but will say I was never given meds. I remember once fighting gangrene on my right foot when I was around 13

Once I got married ( at a young age) I told the Dr about being diabetic ( got a dumb dr! that only did a finger stick) and said take these pills. They of cource didnt work at all I stopped going to the Dr and couldnt at the time afforid to go to another one. I continued to be ill off and on sometimes very ill.

This year ( or uh last year) I had my overies removed . I thought how I had been feeling the last few months was due to the hormones and didnt know it was due blood sugar being high.

I have other health issues and I guess I was not the smartest and put being diabetic on the side burner

trinasangels
01-02-2008, 11:32 PM
I am headed to bed and took my Bs. it is at 270 now.

Alice
01-03-2008, 11:55 AM
We are here to help you. Is there any way you can see an endocrinologist asap? I fear you have been lumped into a Type 2 category for meds and misdiagnosed. You really need a fast-acting insulin asap...but only a doctor can make that determination, unfortunately for all the moral support we can provide...we can't know what is actually going on with your body. Sounds like you are worn out.

If you were diagnosed as a Type 1 years ago and not given the correct medications...then a lot of damage could/can occur. You really can't go on much further like this. Not to frighten you (you've already been through a lot) but I do want to stress the need to get to a doctor asap. I think a different doctor than the one you've been seeing.

Let us know how you are doing. Hugs.

Alice
01-03-2008, 12:24 PM
Note to Anthill (Peter): Your .4 U of Lantus per kg worked well for me...it came to exactly what I take each day...amazing I've never heard this before (in US)...my endo tried to get me to increase to 29-30 units and I never could handle it...the most I can take is 26 units but have morning lows. Thanks for the tip...it's at least a good way to see if we are in the "ballpark"...That also explains why I had to increase my Lantus when I gained 10-12 lbs.

trinasangels
01-03-2008, 01:31 PM
We are here to help you. Is there any way you can see an endocrinologist asap? I fear you have been lumped into a Type 2 category for meds and misdiagnosed. You really need a fast-acting insulin asap...but only a doctor can make that determination, unfortunately for all the moral support we can provide...we can't know what is actually going on with your body. Sounds like you are worn out.

If you were diagnosed as a Type 1 years ago and not given the correct medications...then a lot of damage could/can occur. You really can't go on much further like this. Not to frighten you (you've already been through a lot) but I do want to stress the need to get to a doctor asap. I think a different doctor than the one you've been seeing.

Let us know how you are doing. Hugs.

HI Alice me and my husband has called all day for endo's but noone can get me in before next week :( Everyone is full and since they have not seen me before they say noway to get me in this week even after explaining everything. I go back to my Dr monday and will be having her set me up with a Endo asap!!!

my Bs was 280 or so this am when I woke up.

I had plain pork skins and boiled eggs for lunch with boiled veggies and my Bs went to 480 again. It does not seem to matter WHAT I eat it spikes sooo high.


I do have a question. My left side of my belly hurts when my BS is high.( middle left side of body ) is this common?

It's going to be a long long day Dh went to work at 6 am came home at 2 is napping and goes back from 6 to 6 . Which means I wont beable to sleep well!

ty for hugs!
hugs back to you :)

notme
01-03-2008, 02:59 PM
I think the ER is your best bet at this point Trinasangels. You need to get care before it is more than your body can take. Personally, I would head out and get some insulin and medical attention.

UpNorth
01-03-2008, 03:03 PM
Hello and welcome to the forums :)

Sorry to hear you're not being checked properly and getting the treatment you need! It sucks being high, but when being high for a long time it's even worse :s
Seems like you really need some rapid acting insulin, and that is now! I can't believe your doctors hasn't prescribed any rapid acting! Maybe you should just show up in the ER again and say, "I need rapid acting insulin, and i need it now" :T
Lantus can keep you alive for now, but it can't get your sugars down to normal levels if your pancreas has kicked the bucket.

I really hope you'll be on a working treatment soon! And hope you feel better real soon too!

ant hill
01-03-2008, 04:13 PM
it's not rude :)
I weigh 180 and I am 5 foot 8

Hello Trina, How are you today :D, Just going on my calculations your dose should be 180 times 0.4U = 72U so I would try 60U and see how you go and test test test. ;)
Now presuming that you are 180Kg / 397Lb.


That calculation works pretty well for me. It's only 1 unit off or so, but its about there.

Yes Jenny, I have had a look in the Prescribing Notes and had done a lot of reading and have come across this calculation but then it is a rough guise on the amount of dose as the calculation works for me. But for god sakes TEST!!!!

Welcome! The Lantus is working on only half the problem...that is your basal (baseline) insulin requirement for before food.
Yes Alice, you would need some fast acting insulin too so that you can eat and also get to understand what carbs are and match that with fast acting insulin. :)

trinasangels
01-03-2008, 04:18 PM
Hello Trina, How are you today :D, Just going on my calculations your dose should be 180 times 0.4U = 72U so I would try 60U and see how you go and test test test. ;)
Now presuming that you are 180Kg / 397Lb.




Yes Jenny, I have had a look in the Prescribing Notes and had done a lot of reading and have come across this calculation but then it is a rough guise on the amount of dose as the calculation works for me. But for god sakes TEST!!!!


Yes Alice, you would need some fast acting insulin too so that you can eat and also get to understand what carbs are and match that with fast acting insulin. :)



Hi :) I am 180 pounds not 379 pounds


I am going to check my BS in 2 hours and if its still really high I think I am going to go to the Er.

thanks everyone

ant hill
01-03-2008, 04:34 PM
Hi :) I am 180 pounds not 379 pounds
Ho sorry Trina. :( well then it's 82Kg * 0.4 = 32.8 or 33U :)

trinasangels
01-03-2008, 08:28 PM
I could just yell. I got excited because after dinner my bs was 250.( hey its low for me!) so told dh to just go to work i'd be fine. ive not eatten anything for a snack and its at 390 now. i just did my night time shot at 18 units :(

I also noticed i have a huge bruise where i did my morning shot!


so now DH is gone I am here with the kids with no way to go to Er if i wanted. hope it comes down soon.

Is it monday yet? cant wait to get back to dr!

trinasangels
01-03-2008, 08:30 PM
Ho sorry Trina. :( well then it's 82Kg * 0.4 = 32.8 or 33U :)
:)
it's ok!!! no biggie!

ant hill
01-03-2008, 08:59 PM
Thanks Trina, I like new friends especially ones that's in control. :D

trinasangels
01-03-2008, 09:01 PM
Thanks Trina, I like new friends especially ones that's in control. :D

new friends rock!!!!

trinasangels
01-04-2008, 11:02 PM
just wanted to let everyone know my BS has stayed under 300 all day!! highest is 270 today!

Alice
01-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Glad you checked in with us...hard to believe we are celebrating 270's...but better than you were a few days ago. I'm sure the Lantus is helping...but not enough. You are still running very damaging numbers...

You've waited a long time to get into the doctor's office this week. Don't leave...until all your questions are answered and your meal carbs are covered. Try to get her to send you to the endo straight away...no more delays...even if you have to get be vocal.

Take an advocate to the doctor with you. Many times, four ears are better than the two on our heads. Write down questions ahead of time.

trinasangels
01-05-2008, 03:20 PM
Glad you checked in with us...hard to believe we are celebrating 270's...but better than you were a few days ago. I'm sure the Lantus is helping...but not enough. You are still running very damaging numbers...

You've waited a long time to get into the doctor's office this week. Don't leave...until all your questions are answered and your meal carbs are covered. Try to get her to send you to the endo straight away...no more delays...even if you have to get be vocal.

Take an advocate to the doctor with you. Many times, four ears are better than the two on our heads. Write down questions ahead of time.

I am taking my DH with me and wont be leaving until I have answers and meds for better control!

I am running high 200's today again and 350 after lunch.

I tested my Ketone today and it is showing small ( there is 6 levels and its showing the 3rd that says small) wish I had tested it earlier so I could see if its better then it was.

Isometric
01-05-2008, 03:58 PM
Look for the doctor or doctors that look shocked when you tell them what's been going on. Anyone that knows enough to be of help to you is going to immediately grasp the severity of your condition. It's really unfortunate that so many doctors seem completely unaware of how this disease should be treated when it is as common as it is. I have a friend who just had an A1c of 14 - that's averaging in the same ballpark as you, it sounds like - and his doctor bumped up his metformin dose and told him to start taking 10mg of glipizide! Hello!? And if that wasn't bad enough, he added in another oral med two weeks later after another A1c came back between 12 and 13. I've told my friend, who is a type 2, that he needs to fire his doctor and go see an endo, much the same way you've been advised by the others here. Metformin is powerful stuff, but it's not going to bring anyone down from a 14 in a timely manner.

Anyway, it sounds like you've got the right attitude going in to the hospital, which is to say "Not leaving without the right treatment." When you get that treatment (not if, right?), you might actually feel a little cruddy when you first come down. A couple of times in my diabetic life now, I've had to get my averages way down, and some times I get headeaches from it, or just feel a little out of it. You can make it, though - we're all pulling for you here. No matter what it takes, you will feel better when those numbers come down and level out! Keep us updated!

Alice
01-05-2008, 05:25 PM
The more I think about this doctor's appointment...I'm thinking you need to call the office and tell the appointment person (receptionist) that you are going to need more time than the standard consultation.

Often, it seems that I get cut off in appointments just when the discussion gets informative...then I leave with hanging questions.

Please make sure they don't rush you. On the flips side, you might get a head start and outline you entire diabetic (and other) medical condition...that may help the doctor see how things have developed/not developed. Could be they are confused from prior details.

Also...what about your A1C level? If you've mentioned it before, I can't seem to locate...do you know a recent number (not to share with us...but for your own knowledge)...I would ask for an in-office test for a quick review of your A1C. This is a number you need to empower yourself to know at all times. (Typically 4x a year...) Ask for a detailed explanation of what your A1C relates to as far as your overall care.

ant hill
01-05-2008, 07:06 PM
Is it the case that doctors fear that they're losing a client buy giving a referral? Because to me that's what it sounds like. If you still have trouble getting this referral then go to another one and keep looking until you get one. :)

trinasangels
01-07-2008, 12:34 PM
on my way to my drs appointment. please hope I get answers because i feel like ****. will update later with what she says

Isometric
01-07-2008, 12:41 PM
Good luck - hope to hear encouraging news when you get back!

ant hill
01-07-2008, 03:46 PM
on my way to my drs appointment.

Hey Trina, Good luck. :)

trinasangels
01-07-2008, 03:47 PM
Well I had a good visit I think. She had contacted a endo last week and thought they had already called me. ( they had not) so she contacted them again today in front of me. I should hear from them soon.

I am startng apidra before meals and upping the lantus to 45 a day.

The only problem is she wrote me a script for apidra and CVS did not have the pen for it nore did anyone in the city :( so I have the inserts for the pen but no pen so can't use it. It was past 5 when CVS said they had no pens so couldnt call the Dr.




Edit to add Dh has called apidra and they told him they could not send him a pen either LOL!!! but to tell the Dr to call them. well okkkkkkkkkk guess i'll call Dr tomorrow and have her call them.

ant hill
01-07-2008, 04:45 PM
Well I had a good visit I think. She had contacted a endo last week and thought they had already called me. ( they had not) so she contacted them again today in front of me. I should hear from them soon.
Trina that's great!!, At least an endo finally. :D

I am starting apidra before meals and upping the lantus to 45 a day.
Now this becomes interesting as you now have fast acting.
How many tests that you do in a day Trina? Because now testing is very much an issue.
I test at least 7 - 10 times a day!! and with that amount of testing it would be an idea to have your results in the computer.

The only problem is she wrote me a script for apidra and CVS did not have the pen for it nore did anyone in the city :( so I have the inserts for the pen but no pen so can't use it. It was past 5 when CVS said they had no pens so couldnt call the Dr.
for the time being waiting for your pens to arrive is to use the U100 syringes. I know it's a pain in you know where but it's a start.

Edit to add Dh has called apidra and they told him they could not send him a pen either LOL!!! but to tell the Dr to call them. well okkkkkkkkkk guess i'll call Dr tomorrow and have her call them.
Perhaps the endo may be of better help. :)

trinasangels
01-07-2008, 05:02 PM
Trina that's great!!, At least an endo finally. :D


Now this becomes interesting as you now have fast acting.
How many tests that you do in a day Trina? Because now testing is very much an issue.
I test at least 7 - 10 times a day!! and with that amount of testing it would be an idea to have your results in the computer.


for the time being waiting for your pens to arrive is to use the U100 syringes. I know it's a pain in you know where but it's a start.


Perhaps the endo may be of better help. :)

yes finally!! She was so upset when she heard I had not heard from the endo and seen them. I guess she had called them and told them how urgent it was to get me in asap. ( she had went on vacation a hour after seeing me last)

I test about 10 times a day ( and filled a script for 200 test strips today) Dr wants me to test when I get up, before meals and after meals and night time. but I do a few more test also when I am feeling bad.

I am very glad she started me on fast acting as I feel so bad after eatting so hopefully this will help.


my ac1 was sky high at over 14!
I'll be calling my eye Dr tomorrow to get in to see him as my eyes are a bit blury at times.


My Ultra 2 has a place for a cord it looks like? where I can download my results on the computer I need to read up on that!

husband went and got some untra syringes so i'll be good to be until I get the pen. ( hope soon!)



thanks everyone you guys have really been awsome!

ant hill
01-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Hey Trina!! That's great as I am proud of you so you go girl. :D
May I say that your name is a beutiful name and it is something that I will remember for a wile.

http://www.hermann-uwe.de/files/images/two_flowers.preview.jpg
I hope that you like flowers Trina. :D

trinasangels
01-07-2008, 05:56 PM
Hey Trina!! That's great as I am proud of you so you go girl. :D
May I say that your name is a beutiful name and it is something that I will remember for a wile.

http://www.hermann-uwe.de/files/images/two_flowers.preview.jpg
I hope that you like flowers Trina. :D

thanks hun. My children are my angels and they keep me going! :)

Alice
01-08-2008, 06:23 AM
Ok, now we are getting somewhere! Your next "learning curve" will be adjusting that fast-acting to your meals. We are happy to help with some of the tricky things...pasta, pizza, etc. Remember to still count calories...I don't obsess about carbs, but try to eat a normal amount, not "super-size me" portions.

I think your eyes will clear up when your blood sugar is lowered...probably in about 2 weeks.

trinasangels
01-08-2008, 06:58 AM
Ok, now we are getting somewhere! Your next "learning curve" will be adjusting that fast-acting to your meals. We are happy to help with some of the tricky things...pasta, pizza, etc. Remember to still count calories...I don't obsess about carbs, but try to eat a normal amount, not "super-size me" portions.

I think your eyes will clear up when your blood sugar is lowered...probably in about 2 weeks.

Oh how I love a good pizza!!! lol But I've not had any in a long time! But if them cowboys go to the superbowl I may have to have a slice!!!

I'm having my husband call in to the eye Dr today wont hurt to get a good check up! Plus we have the BEST eye Dr in the world!!! He deals with retina's and such and treats children only except me ( ha ha ha which means I am still a kid... well atleast at heart)

he has been my son's eye Dr since birth and has done two eye surgeries on me ( I used to have what I call wondering eyes * would cross *)

After being told most my life it could not be fixed , he fixed them!! It was more of a self esteem thing as it really didnt effect my sight much but it effected how I looked. So glad he was able to do that!


oh BTW!!!!!!!! I am under 200 at wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 198!! LOL I KNOW I KNOW to high! but WOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! have not seen a 1 in a long time!!!!

Alice
01-08-2008, 07:43 AM
For many who have been running high numbers over an extended length of time...it will feel almost like "withdrawal" as you get used to the lower numbers. You may experience what you think is "low blood sugar" symptoms such as shaking and confusion...it's just your body having to adapt to a new metabolism.

Good luck. I'm so relieved you finally got the fast-acting insulin. I know many of us were shaking our heads over the weekend...

trinasangels
01-08-2008, 08:03 AM
For many who have been running high numbers over an extended length of time...it will feel almost like "withdrawal" as you get used to the lower numbers. You may experience what you think is "low blood sugar" symptoms such as shaking and confusion...it's just your body having to adapt to a new metabolism.

Good luck. I'm so relieved you finally got the fast-acting insulin. I know many of us were shaking our heads over the weekend...

I noticed! I felt so gittery this am when I woke up! I checked right away and let a big sigh of relief out!


I am soooooo relieved also has been a long hard last few weeks!!

princesslinda
01-08-2008, 08:55 AM
I've read this post with great interest. While I have nothing of any benefit to add, I am so glad you're getting the help you need and are seeing better blood sugar numbers.

You hang in there! Looks like you've got a lot of smart and caring people here watching out for you. Keep us posted on how things are going....and HUGS to all you wonderful, caring forum friends!

lilituc
01-08-2008, 12:02 PM
Keep in mind that bg levels can affect your eyes (prescription) so while it's good to get an eye exam, you might want to wait until your bg has been in control awhile to get a new prescription. Otherwise you will probably have to change it again.

silverfrost
01-08-2008, 01:42 PM
lilituc is absolutely right. My prescription went back to normal after one week of starting Humalog. It was ridiculous!

I am also very very happy that you've finally got the short-acting insulin. You will feel so much better after you are used to seeing 100s. :)

trinasangels
01-08-2008, 01:42 PM
well its up to 350 again. I have a massive headache. Ive taken the fast acting but its not working as far as I can tell yet.


PS Dh picked up the new pen from the Dr's today! It's nifty LOL has electronic read out on front of it.

UpNorth
01-08-2008, 01:57 PM
It's so good to hear you've finally gotten the fast acting insulin! I really hope you can get those numbers down real soon, it will make you feel a lot better! Just don't go down too quickly, then you'll just feel hypo while still high. Let your body adjust to normal levels through some time. I sort of did that mistake when i was newly diagnosed... I had my first "hypo" at about 9mmol/l:eek: I have no idea what that is in the american units though :s: I only know mmol/l:T

UpNorth
01-08-2008, 02:05 PM
well its up to 350 again. I have a massive headache. Ive taken the fast acting but its not working as far as I can tell yet.


PS Dh picked up the new pen from the Dr's today! It's nifty LOL has electronic read out on front of it.



It can happen sometimes that your body is less sensitive to insulin when high. But just have patience, drink lots of water, test, and take a few units more if the last dose hasn't made any change within a couple of hours.

trinasangels
01-08-2008, 02:25 PM
I am really feeling bad right now. Took fast acting less then 40 minutes ago and my BS is now 299. I am off and on dizy and everything seems just kinda slow to me.

I know everyone says it takes time to get back to normal BS levels but Ive been on the long lasting over a week now . It seems like the end is not insight! I know I know I am such a big baby! ( i'll snap out of it soon enough and be a big girl! :T ) One minute I am feeling very confident and OK and then I start to get dizy and feel sick and get to feeling down! I feel Bipolar!( I'm not!) but this is a rollercoaster!

UpNorth
01-08-2008, 02:38 PM
****, i need to find a good way to learn those high numbers used it america :T I don't know how high 299 is, other than it being way too high. And it sure doesn't sound like any fun:(
Just have patience, even if those real fast acting insulins- Novorapid/Novolog, Humalog and Apidra, kicks in fast, they don't start peaking until about 1h after injection, so it can take a while to really notice the difference when trying to bring down a nasty high.

trinasangels
01-08-2008, 02:41 PM
yes to high but a lot better then the 400's and 500s I was in! but I really feel awful! I was trying to explain to my Dr how it felt yesterday and all I could come up with was to say it felt like I was having a panic attack but yet I was not it was just my BS! body going off and on numb, dizy, head hurting

UpNorth
01-08-2008, 02:51 PM
Phew, i found a calculation thingy!
It sure aint fun to hit the big numbers:( Luckily i don't go over 15mmol/l (270) very often. But when i do go very high, like over 20mmol/l (360), i feel like a dried out old sponge or something like that, as if someone has been squezing out all the fluids in my body, leaving me aching all over (if i have been high for a while) and feeling very thirsty and needing to go to the bathroom a lot. Hate it when it happens... It's sooooo uncomfortable to be high:( And very inconvenient when being on the go:eek:

trinasangels
01-08-2008, 02:54 PM
oh yes I remember when I was in the 400's and 500's I was drinking like a fish! I started to get worried I would get water poisoning! I would drink a cup like every 10 minutes!

glad you don't go high very often!

UpNorth
01-08-2008, 03:08 PM
I had a high day a few months ago, struggling all day to get down to normal and finally managed to. That day i was drinking several liters just because i was so thirsty. If i remember it right it was about 6 liters or so, possibly even as much as 8 liters in less than 24 hours:eek: That day is one of very few times i've had ketones since i was diagnosed. Not high ketones *knock on wood* but high enough to make me feel like **** for a whole day. I was back onto the pump for a while then- just for fun really (since i do well on injections and don't mind taking them), and had an infusionset malfunction during the night:mad: That was the last time in a very long time i'll trust an electronic thingy to keep me alive...

trinasangels
01-08-2008, 04:38 PM
down to 240 and fixing to eat ( eek!) i am having a bacon sandwich ( bacon zero carbs) on diabetic sugar free bread no mayo just bacon . were see how it goes!

notme
01-08-2008, 04:46 PM
No such thing as carb free bread trina. It will spike your sugar. The best bread you can eat is whole grain flourless bread. Bacon is very fatty and you will have a second spike in your blood sugar. Skip the "sugarfree" bread and bacon. Try baked chicken and veggies. You will do much better.

trinasangels
01-08-2008, 04:57 PM
No such thing as carb free bread trina. It will spike your sugar. The best bread you can eat is whole grain flourless bread. Bacon is very fatty and you will have a second spike in your blood sugar. Skip the "sugarfree" bread and bacon. Try baked chicken and veggies. You will do much better.



sigh! ok I'll do a Salad. ( I dont much like Chicken or well any meat but can do bacon if I burn it LOL LOL!!)


I eat salads almost everyday think maybe i'll just stick to that with no dressing or low carb dressing LOL i'll just eat Salad for the rest of my life! he he . I know its a learning process!! I'll get there! :)

shiftzor
01-08-2008, 05:26 PM
sigh! ok I'll do a Salad. ( I dont much like Chicken or well any meat but can do bacon if I burn it LOL LOL!!)


I eat salads almost everyday think maybe i'll just stick to that with no dressing or low carb dressing LOL i'll just eat Salad for the rest of my life! he he . I know its a learning process!! I'll get there! :)

lol, you can’t eat salad all your life you will go nuts. Just eat brown things aka brown pasta/rice and measure out the quantities. Eating around 200 carbs per day and lots of exercise stops me becoming fat. I don’t pretend to be an expert, but my next A1c will hopefully tell me I’m right :D otherwise i will join you with the salad. ;)

Alice
01-09-2008, 09:52 AM
Trina...remember that you are not counting "sugar"...you are counting "carbs" of any kind.

There is no need to purchase "diabetic sugar free bread"...that is a marketing rip-off that will still cause a blood sugar rise.

Just eat the good stuff and count the carbs.

You will probably spend several weeks getting used to counting carbs...did your doctor start you out at 1:15 ratio? (one unit of Humalog for each 15 grams of carbs?) That is usually the starting point...and ironically what works for me.

But some have to increase to 1:10 carbs, and so on...

Don't feel bad, I had a salad for lunch yesterday and didn't take any Humalog afterwards...thinking I just had "a few carbs"...I hit 350 in about an hour! I quickly took a corrective dose and was back to normal soon...but that raspberry vinagraitte really kicked my butt! (Fat free, but not sugar free!)

Some days we're the windshield, some days we're the bug!

trinasangels
01-09-2008, 10:50 AM
Trina...remember that you are not counting "sugar"...you are counting "carbs" of any kind.

There is no need to purchase "diabetic sugar free bread"...that is a marketing rip-off that will still cause a blood sugar rise.

Just eat the good stuff and count the carbs.

You will probably spend several weeks getting used to counting carbs...did your doctor start you out at 1:15 ratio? (one unit of Humalog for each 15 grams of carbs?) That is usually the starting point...and ironically what works for me.

But some have to increase to 1:10 carbs, and so on...

Don't feel bad, I had a salad for lunch yesterday and didn't take any Humalog afterwards...thinking I just had "a few carbs"...I hit 350 in about an hour! I quickly took a corrective dose and was back to normal soon...but that raspberry vinagraitte really kicked my butt! (Fat free, but not sugar free!)

Some days we're the windshield, some days we're the bug!
She started me on 10 units before meals and changed it today to 15 units ( seems to be WORKING!!!!!!) I am down to 185!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
Woke up at 225

I go next Thursday to A Dr that will help me figure out what I can eat.


Ok wont do sugar free breads no more. I think I wont be doing any breads!! ( btw sugar free bread sucks anyways lol!)

I have a book she gave me about carbs but I cant read it because of the blurryness so My husband is going to read it to me tonight. there is a place to count cabs on it.


I am feeling a bit better today!

trinasangels
01-09-2008, 03:54 PM
I am fixing to eat so I just tested! I am at 113!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

notme
01-09-2008, 04:43 PM
Congratulations. Now your talking. Great news.

Alice
01-09-2008, 04:48 PM
That's our girl!!!
A new thing to watch for...lows after your Humalogs...if you're taking more than the carbs you are eating, you may experience a "true" low blood sugar. So, keep some glucose tabs with you. You'll fine tune the ratio between carbs and Humalog soon. Some meals you'll be eating very little...and need very little insulin. Some will be big carb meals and you will need more.

Are you currently taking the same units of Humalog regardless of what carbs you are eating? If so, watch for lows.

trinasangels
01-09-2008, 09:54 PM
Well I started to feel ill around 8 pm ( had not eaten anything in a few hours just drank water after dinner) and I was at 300 and I am staying at 300 :( this is so frustrating!


I am watching my carbs I dont understand this. I am not eatting candy and junk food( never have always made me feel ill)

I had boiled fish ( just a bit of salt and peper no other spices) and boiled veggies for dinner. no bread or anything like that.

I was sooo excited when I seen it so low!! Looks like it didn't stay that way long.


Yes the Dr has me on 15 units no matter what I eat. I check my BS often after I eat every 30 minutes right now up to 2 hours.

Alice
01-10-2008, 08:02 AM
That is odd...could be you still need to work out your Lantus requirements. Probably not, but were any of those "boiled veggies" potatoes? Still, with 15 units of Humalog and no carbs...300 is definitely high.

You may still be going through a little withdrawal...so keep at it!

trinasangels
01-11-2008, 03:53 AM
That is odd...could be you still need to work out your Lantus requirements. Probably not, but were any of those "boiled veggies" potatoes? Still, with 15 units of Humalog and no carbs...300 is definitely high.

You may still be going through a little withdrawal...so keep at it!

no no I had no potatoes i know thats a big no no!! Bs is really high still I am at 430 now :( It was at 399 so I took 10 more units and it went UP with me having nothing but water for 3 hours!! I think I am just going to stop eatting!!!! Even when I don't eat over night i am waking up over 200 :(

Scratch
01-11-2008, 05:35 AM
I didn't see if anyone suggested the following yet. If they already have, I'll second this, if not, I suggest you see about getting one or both of the following books as soon as possible.

Think Like a Pancreas by Gary Scheiner.

Pumping Insulin by John Walsh.

I used the book by Scheiner and found it very helpful to help me set up using MDI, the basal/bolus method of insulin and diet.

Alice
01-11-2008, 07:32 AM
Sounds like your basal requirements still need more long-acting insulin. But, talk to your doctor before you increase too much on your own. You're probably ok trying a few more units tomorrow...but I always increase in small increments...two units or less in my case.

You may have be insulin resistant...and will need more basal. We're all different, so don't let it get you down.

(And yes, you will be able to eat a small serving of potatoes later...when you get your meals straight with your basals.)

UpNorth
01-11-2008, 10:37 AM
Maybe you're on your way to catch a cold or a flu. When your body is figthing an infection you usually need more insulin than normal. I'm currently having a cold, and i'm struggling a lot to stay below 10mmol/l, have to take extra Novorapid all the time... I feel like a pincushion :hahaha:

trinasangels
01-11-2008, 02:13 PM
upped my fast acting to 25 units and that seems to "maybe" be the trick! I had scrambled eggs and cheese for lunch and my BS dropped to 145 after taking the fast acting . right now my BS is at 125!! Dr is trying to put a rush on the Endo and see if they can get me in faster!


Got a awful headache though !

ps will look for the books! :)

BS was 245 when woke up after taking long lating it didnt go down much but did with the fast acting

Alice
01-11-2008, 03:08 PM
145 is good...but you sure had a super-dose of Humalog with no carbs...that worries me...but I know your endo will get it all straight soon.

Trina, how are you fasting numbers looking in the morning? I'm still thinking your long-acting is what is needing attention. But, good job!...you are so much better than a few days ago, right?

trinasangels
01-11-2008, 03:19 PM
145 is good...but you sure had a super-dose of Humalog with no carbs...that worries me...but I know your endo will get it all straight soon.

Trina, how are you fasting numbers looking in the morning? I'm still thinking your long-acting is what is needing attention. But, good job!...you are so much better than a few days ago, right?
my morning numbers are almost always 250 or around there. I think my long acting needs to be upped also. I do feel a lot better then I did a few days ago!


PS they cant get me in to Endo any sooner so looks like I am stuck with a Feb 8th appointment. :( but She says she'll keep treating me until I get in to see him. I go to a Dr WEnd that will help me learn what I can eat so maybe that will help!

ant hill
01-11-2008, 04:44 PM
I am watching my carbs I dont understand this. I am not eatting candy and junk food( never have always made me feel ill)
Deadication... Gee it's magic.

I had boiled fish ( just a bit of salt and peper no other spices) and boiled veggies for dinner. no bread or anything like that.
Gee that's is sooo YUM!!
I was sooo excited when I seen it so low!! Looks like it didn't stay that way long.
Yeah I bet it didn't

Yes the Dr has me on 15 units no matter what I eat. I check my BS often after I eat every 30 minutes right now up to 2 hours.
Trina, You are going to have to learn on how to use your insulin so that you can dose yourself and again test test test as the doctor is not around all the time to dose you. :)

ladytaz
01-11-2008, 05:32 PM
OH MY! What an ordeal!! As you already know, Trina, the people here are SUPERB!! SO very helpful and caring!! That is why I love this place SO much!!!

That is strange and very much a concern, not eating any, or very little carbs and your BG going so high!! I'm not sure, but I don't think Apidra works for everyone! You may need a different fast acting insulin, like Novolog or Humalog! Suggest that to your doc! Even regular old "R"! As well as, you MAY very well be insulin resistant, also. In which case, they can prescribe you the Metformin again, for that!

The carb counting thing and dosing accordingly (finding your insulin to carb ratio [I:C) is the way to go, I belive. There will always be some foods that you'll have trouble with [dosing for] no matter what. Pancakes and Chinese food are my trouble foods! I can't dose correctly for them no matter what! I don't eat them very often, so it's not a huge concern for me, though! ;)

BTW, welcome to the DF family!! :)

Alice
01-12-2008, 10:35 AM
Trina, I really think if your fasting is still around 250 your basal is the culprit...at least a big percentage of what you are trying to fix at mealtime with short-acting.

Once you get your basal sorted out, I don't think you'll be able to tolerate those huge doses of short-acting.

I use Humalog with good results. Had pancakes with syrup this morning (local diner specialty) and took a huge dose and stayed under 180...and then I dropped a bit too much and had to eat...too funny! But, that's sort of a bad explanation of how this stuff works...

trinasangels
01-12-2008, 01:08 PM
taking a deep breath:laugh:

I didn't go above 250 yesterday! :rock: When I was 250 was after dinner but it dropped a few hours later :rock:


Today I woke up and my Bs was 174!:party:

I am feeling a lot better today then I had been! My eyesight is still bad but I am sure it will ease out. :trytofly:


I did up my long lasting 3 more units.

ty so much everyone. everyone has been so helpful!

ant hill
01-12-2008, 02:15 PM
taking a deep breath:laugh:

I didn't go above 250 yesterday! :rock: When I was 250 was after dinner but it dropped a few hours later :rock:
Aww that's great Trina. Good work!!! :thrasher:


Today I woke up and my Bs was 174!:party:

I am feeling a lot better today then I had been! My eyesight is still bad but I am sure it will ease out. :trytofly:
This will take time Trina as the BG's get to moderate to better levels. ;)

I did up my long lasting 3 more units.

ty so much everyone. everyone has been so helpful!

That's OK Trina The best thing is that you did this as you are the endocrinologist and no one else. I'm proud of you. :D (((HUGS)))

trinasangels
01-12-2008, 05:55 PM
thank you so much honey!! I have not been over 190 all day!!!! Still high but its such a improvement!

I just hope when I go to the endo they dont try to switch all my meds and try new ones and I go high again! I dont ever want to be 400/500 again! I felt soo bad!

Alice
01-12-2008, 06:18 PM
You are proably getting enough exercise, but try walking for at least 1/2 hour tomorrow...it will help get some of those "toxins" moving along and maybe help some of your insensitivity issues.

Keep glucose tabs with you at all times...especially since you are trying to "find yourself"...teehee!

trinasangels
01-12-2008, 09:50 PM
will do! I did a bit tonight but I still have this pain in the left of my stomach.it's not really bad but bad enough I notice it.Been there a month.

TenderVittleS
01-12-2008, 10:20 PM
Keep up the good work, hope everything starts to get to normal now for you. Remember if your sugars start to rise abnormally after awhile most likely you need a new vial of insulin as it generally lasts around 30 days. Good Luck!

deansreef
01-13-2008, 03:51 AM
trina, the endo will probably recommend an insulin pump for you- this will be a blessing as it delivers a constant basal and a bolus based on BS levels and carb intake.

Please let us know about that pain you are experiencing on you left side. Our thoughts and prayers are with you for a great A1c in the near future.

Dean

Alice
01-13-2008, 11:01 AM
Trina, I forgot completely about the "pain" in your side...I can't believe it is taking this long to get you into an endo. I am hoping you don't have a ruptured "something" that is causing the highs. Is there a shortage of doctors in your area? Can you drive a short distance to another city with more doctors?

ladytaz
01-13-2008, 11:09 AM
I would think, that if her referring doc called the Endo, and explained that it's imperative that she sees the Endo ASAP, that the Endo would "fit" her in!! This isn't just a random check up appointment here! This is an emergency situation, in my opinion! If I were her doc, I'd definitely be stressing that point to the Endo's office!!

At least, your numbers are coming down, Trina! THAT is excellent!!! :)

cuddlebug
01-13-2008, 05:26 PM
I also take lantus daily but i only take 22 units a day. Then i take a fast acting insulin pen everytime i eat. Its on a sliding scale i take one unit per every 15 carbs i eat. plus more if my blood sugar is higher. If its 150-200 i add an extra unit 200-250 2 units and so on. good luck it takes some time to get the right meds working for you. You might have to switchs couple times till you find the right ones for your body. I have had to change after i turned 20 it seems my body had been ob R/N for so long it was becoming immune.

trinasangels
01-13-2008, 05:27 PM
I have stayed under 200 again today. right at about 180's.

BTW when they said they couldnt get me in until Feb I cried!! I just didnt want to be feeling this bad for that long! I am feeling a lot better now that its lower but I fear it going high away!!

They said they called 4 endo's and all would not get me in asap. not sure why! I dont live in a small town!!


If the pain on left side gets to bad I"ll go to Er to look at it. But right now its not THAT bad just very noticeable.


PS went and picked up some reading glasses today . I can seeeeeeeeeeeeee way better

ant hill
01-13-2008, 08:34 PM
I have stayed under 200 again today. right at about 180's.
Woo Hoo, Good on ya Trina. Atta girl!!! :D

BTW when they said they couldnt get me in until Feb I cried!! I just didnt want to be feeling this bad for that long! I am feeling a lot better now that its lower but I fear it going high away!!
This is ware Patience is the Pain. I'm sorry Trina.
Be strong hun as you will get what you asked for. ;)

If the pain on left side gets to bad I"ll go to Er to look at it. But right now its not THAT bad just very noticeable.
I don't like the sound of that. And I would wonder what would that be? :confused:

PS went and picked up some reading glasses today . I can seeeeeeeeeeeeee way better

I must get my glasses too so that see at a distance. :T

trinasangels
01-15-2008, 05:51 PM
the last few days have been up and down. usually really high after dinner( 300 plus) but during day besides when I eat it's been low!! Like 130's!!!

Yesterday I had my first low however it was my fault.


I had went to the Eye Dr and when I came out my BS was high over 300. I had eatten a few hours before but it had not came down yet.

I took 10 more units of fast acting and we going to head to the store to get dinner stuff and a small snack on the way.


Well on the way out we seen a lady and her daughter they had a flat tier. I told husband to go and help them, this took a bit longer then expected as they had a TINY jack LOL and it was one of the new SUVs and noone could figure out how to get the spare from the bottom of the car LOL. anyways took almost 2 HOURS!


I had totally forgot I had took the shot. We got to the store I started shaking really bad.
Husband took my BS and it was 60 he ran and grabbed me some OJ and it came back up nicely but I felt so bad all night.


Besides that and staying to high after I eat I am doing very good I think! I am learning more and more of what to eat and how much to take when I eat.


hugs everyone. Hope everyone is doing good!


PS eyes are ok! Just needed some reading glasses!! He said thats why Ive had such bad headaches!

ant hill
01-15-2008, 06:14 PM
Hey Trina, That sound like a diabetic that we all know and thanks to your husband who saved you from that low.
Fine about your eyes as I whare glasses too for driving mostly.
Good on ya Trina. Love ya! :D

trinasangels
01-15-2008, 07:20 PM
thanks Peter!!

I have a question. I gave myself a shot tonight in my arm and it hurt a bit when I gave it. Now there is a bump in the location and a bruise?

Does this happen sometimes?

ladytaz
01-15-2008, 08:24 PM
I've had that happen once, on my tummy. Kinda freaked me out. I just rubbed the bump, and it went away. It was kind of like the insulin was trapped, in a bubble there? It hurt too, and had a bruise as well. Nothing bad happened to me. My BG stayed fine.

trinasangels
01-15-2008, 08:44 PM
I've had that happen once, on my tummy. Kinda freaked me out. I just rubbed the bump, and it went away. It was kind of like the insulin was trapped, in a bubble there? It hurt too, and had a bruise as well. Nothing bad happened to me. My BG stayed fine.

thats what I told my husband.. I said welll i dont think the inslin went anywhere! its stuck in a bubble on my arm!! lol! I rubbed it and its going down but man it does hurt! Don't think I'll use my arms again

ladytaz
01-15-2008, 08:56 PM
If I use my arms, I make sure I use the outside, almost underside of my arm. I don't use my arms too often though.

ant hill
01-15-2008, 10:00 PM
Yes I get that too. :( I have had injected in the arm and notesed that the insulin reacts fast!! and so within 15 minuets I was woosey. Talk about fast wow!

Trina, As you get older or rather have taken insulin for as long as I have you will find that the onset of the insulin is slower than what the maufactuers make out to be. ;)

trinasangels
01-16-2008, 06:40 PM
I went to the dietitian today and was a bit surprised at what she recommended. 30 carbs a meal and between 5 and 10 carbs for a snack. I did my 1st 30 carb meal to day at dinner was not much lol ( I don't like meat so it kinda limits what I eat) Looks like I may start eatting more meat though.


She said we will up it every week if my numbers get better or as they get better. So were see how it goes. I"ll do anything to get it under control :)


hugs

Alice
01-16-2008, 07:12 PM
I can see the logic in keeping a moderate (low) amount of carbs...keeping them about the same...for a period of time while you are getting your "true" insulin amounts balanced. Again, until you figure out what your basal amount is...you won't be able to figure out food.

Regarding restaurants...I never take my Humalog before going to the restaurant...or even while waiting for food. You never know how long they will take to serve. I usually take immediately after eating in restaurants, or once I see the food. Sometimes I order lot of stuff, but it doesn't look as appetizing when it arrives, so I eat much less.

Had I taken a bolus before meal arrived, I would have taken too much...I just thought of this while you were writing about your "flat tire" wait...

jenniferS
01-17-2008, 04:12 PM
I am going through exactly what you are right now. I would say the pills are probably useless. Ask the doctor about taking the Lantus at bedtime and Bolusing before each meal with Novolog. I was diagnosed last week. My levels were over 600 and they are now in the high 100's. I take Novolog before each meal and take Levemir at night. Also, you may want to switch from Lantus to Levemir when you are done with your Lantus pen. Studies have shown there is less weight gain on Levemir (you may not care about that though). I have found that it is important that you are your own advocate. It's a lot to learn, but with time you will. Good luck and I look forward to hearing how you are doing.

trinasangels
01-17-2008, 08:22 PM
I am going through exactly what you are right now. I would say the pills are probably useless. Ask the doctor about taking the Lantus at bedtime and Bolusing before each meal with Novolog. I was diagnosed last week. My levels were over 600 and they are now in the high 100's. I take Novolog before each meal and take Levemir at night. Also, you may want to switch from Lantus to Levemir when you are done with your Lantus pen. Studies have shown there is less weight gain on Levemir (you may not care about that though). I have found that it is important that you are your own advocate. It's a lot to learn, but with time you will. Good luck and I look forward to hearing how you are doing.

I am still having up and down's but its not as bad as it was. But I am hanging in there!
I HAVE already gained 10 pounds :( since starting the Lantus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and yes its a BIG issue for me!!!!! I would like to drop 40 or so pounds by July for our family vacation. I'll talk to Endo about switching when I go see him on the 8th. wishing you lots of luck with your treatment!!!

nicole
01-23-2008, 02:35 PM
I don't know what to tell you. But I know yesterday my face went numb too. I got scared. good thing i have a doc appt tomorrow.