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viranth
04-05-2008, 05:45 AM
I was talking to a friend today, and he's a nurse (plus medical training from special forces etc) with his own natural medicine company.

He was talking about how my cells were lazy, so they didn't use the insulin properly. A way to get them "non-lazy" was to eat very little carbs a day (10g a day), for about a week. Then they would respond to insulin much better, and maybe my body's production of insulin would be enough.

Because all the hormones my body produces are good, and all the hormonoes I inject are "bad".

Also said that it didn't matter how much insulin I would inject, that my blood sugar would go high if my cells didn't have enough "doors".

He also said that I had probably had type 2 diabetes before I got type 1, since it doesn't just appear out of nowhere.

My view on this is that he's mixing up type 1 and type 2. Because I think my sensitivity to insulin is very good, I can have good numbers all day with approx 20 units insulin a day.

If I didn't have good sensitivity and my cells were "lazy", wouldn't my BG go high, with so little insulin?

Also, as a type 1, my pancreas will stop producing enough insulin for me to live from, so I have to take insulin to live, right?

Am I wrong here or is he mixing type 1 and type 2? Because it doesn't make any sense to me what he's saying.

NoraWI
04-05-2008, 05:59 AM
You are right; your friend is mixing things up. However, even for a Type 1 diabetic it helps to eat fewer carbs so as to keep the amount of injected insulin to a minimum and maintaining good control. Nothing wrong with injected insulin (we would die if we didn't get it), but it makes it easier when the body doesn't have to process massive amounts of carbohydrate, which we have trouble processing.

morrisma
04-05-2008, 06:01 AM
He's wrong about "appearing from nowhere" Type 1 does just that.

According to research, my case (and many others) went like this: I got a virus with a protein coat that was shaped like my eyelet cell's protein coat and when my immune system kicked in to fight the virus, it stuck around to attack my eyelet cells. The protein coat shape is genetic so if my kids got it and the same virus, they'd be type 1 too. That's the genetic component.

You most certainly need to take insulin to live.

Your friend sounds like some multi-level marketeers I've known. Id avoid him or his advice at the least.

viranth
04-05-2008, 06:15 AM
Thanks for the fast replies. I was wondering if I was mixing things up, when he said some of this I had low BG (3.4, my lowest ever) after 50 minutes of running and 60 minutes of weight lifting. So I started to doubt if I was correct or not.

My endo says I am doing everything right, so when someone else with medical background says you are doing it wrong or something like that, you start reading through pages and pages just to make sure you are right.

xMenace
04-05-2008, 06:33 AM
Lots of people like to put their own spin on things. For whatever reason they cannot accept conventions. Your friend is also trying to make a buck. IMHO he is just another ...
http://juliehawrishok.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/quack-doctor.jpg

UpNorth
04-05-2008, 06:35 AM
Your friend should do some more reading... He's the one being confused :T

T1 comes out of nowhere most of the time... I'm the only type 1 in my entire family as far as we know, and my only relative with diabetes as far as we know, is my grandmother who had type 2 diabetes before she passed away.

However, it is true that we should keep our carb intake low... but i must admit i don't do that :T:o Have cut down on sugar though...

ant hill
04-05-2008, 06:58 AM
Lots of people like to put their own spin on things. For whatever reason they cannot accept conventions. Your friend is also trying to make a buck. IMHO he is just another ...
http://juliehawrishok.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/quack-doctor.jpg

LOL John, They are exactly that, As they would not have a clue. Rolling on the floor and laughing. :T

Jan B
04-05-2008, 07:29 AM
Lots of people like to put their own spin on things. For whatever reason they cannot accept conventions. Your friend is also trying to make a buck. IMHO he is just another ...
http://juliehawrishok.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/quack-doctor.jpg

Thanks for the quack!! I mean laugh!

UpNorth
04-05-2008, 09:01 AM
Lots of people like to put their own spin on things. For whatever reason they cannot accept conventions. Your friend is also trying to make a buck. IMHO he is just another ...
http://juliehawrishok.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/quack-doctor.jpg


This one really quacks- oops, sorry, i mean cracks me up :hahaha:

mortis505
04-05-2008, 09:22 AM
Obviously your friends training had very little, or anything to do with diabetes. If it did, he wouldn't be trying to convince you of such complete and utter nonsense. Tell him to do some proper research.