Fiber anyone?

[georgepds]

NIDDM Type 2 here. I measure twice a day, before breakfast and before supper. Normally my morning FBG is ~120-140 and evening 110-120. For the past couple of months I've been trying to increase fiber in my diet (for other reasons) to ~ 40-50 g/day. It's not too hard, I eat GG brand rye crisps for breakfast, and try to get in a can of beans for supper or lunch. The interesting observation is my BG are down 100-120 in the morning, 90-110 in the evening.

Has anyone else noticed a similar effect?

My best estimate is that high fiber meals are inherently low glycemic, and that may be the cause of the change in BG. This approach is the only one that seems to work for me to get the morning FBG down. I was diagnosed a year ago and had trouble lowering the morning numbers.

Low carb just did not seem to work for me. High fiber does. I still don't eat pizza or bread or cereal on a regular basis.

The literature is inconclusive. This article says fiber works
Very High Fiber Diet Lowers Blood Glucose in Diabetics (http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/958073584.html)

This article says it does not
HIGH-FIBER DIETS INEFFECTIVE FOR TYPE II DIABETES - Journal Watch (General) (http://general-medicine.jwatch.org/cgi/content/citation/1988/1028/3)

[xMenace]

Fiber or Fibre here is most definately BG friendly. But if you had poor eating habits, you are still likely eating bad foods. The use of fibre to justify your bad choices is all too easy. I see it all the time.

[georgepds]

Hi

My choices are fine. Basically a salad for lunch (turns out to be low fiber) with a slice of ham or cheese (low carb approach) and a meat and two vegetables for supper. Almonds for snack. My choices pretty much remain the same, except I get a lot more fiber.

These days I substitute beans for the meat and cheese

There is a school of thought (Bernstein) that suggest extremely low carb approach. In my quest to control BG, I tried to follow Bernstein. Somewhere he says avoid all beans and lentils in his book, and that is what I started doing a year ago when first diagnosed. It just did not seem to work for me (granted, I did not go overboard, e.g. I did not give up the salad for lunch) .

[fgummett]

I'm puzzled as to how salad can be low fibre?

[Hammer]

I'm puzzled as to how salad can be low fibre?

It depends on what's in it. Lettuce has no fiber to speak of. You'd think it would, but it doesn't. If you buy the prepackaged salad like I do, it contains lettuce, shredded cabbage, and shredded carrots. The cabbage and carrots have some fiber, but being small shredded pieces, it isn't a lot. I add fresh broccoli florets (the tops of the broccoli) and I slice up a fresh cucumber to add some fiber. If you'd add alfalfa sprouts, that would help.

I look at it like this....if you eat it and it gives you gas, then it probably has a lot of fiber in it.:)

I drink a glass of Metamucil every day to give me fiber. It doesn't taste as good as salad, but it's not that bad.

[Evermont]

I'm puzzled as to how salad can be low fibre?

Chicken salad? Egg salad? ...Which came first?

[georgepds]

Egg salad of course.. the chickens descended form dinosaurs.

[Hammer]

Since the egg came first, then the egg salad came first.:)

If you're wondering why I say the egg came first, well, long ago I discussed this with some friends and I came to the conclusion that anything could have given birth to a chicken-like creature, but whatever that creature was, it was born from another creature. It seems implausible that a creature that's normal birthing process is to deliver it's offspring like people do, would give birth to a creature that would in turn lay eggs. It makes more sense that a creature would have laid an egg, and when it hatched, the creature that came out of it would have been mutated in some way to make it chicken-like, but that it would continue to lay eggs to reproduce.

In other words, one creature that gives birth to reproduce, isn't going to give birth to a creature that will lay eggs to reproduce. The original creature would have to lay eggs to reproduce and whatever came out of that egg was mutated into a chicken-like creature, and would continue to lay eggs to reproduce. So then, anything could have laid the egg that a mutated chicken emerged from, but there had to be an egg for that mutated chicken to come out of.

See that! I solved one of the world's great mysteries all by myself.:D

[Bevvie]

Hi there

I also eat the GG bran crispbreads - they are brilliant!!! 85% bran and have enabled me to stay on my strict diet as they are so filling. I eat them for lunch with low fat phili and I also dip them in soup. I've only been dxd for 3 weeks but I've already lost 11 lbs and my BGs are on the way down! They don't seem to raise my BGs (tho they're still higher than normal at this stage).