lowest i/carb

[carolyn]

Who has the lowest insulin/carb ratio? Please tell me yours. Carolyn.

[CrazyGramma]

Hi there,
I was using 1 unit to 15 carb but have been adjusting that to 1u to 10 carb in the morning and 1 to 12 in the afternoon to gain better control.

[Tattoo azz]

I lose already cos i take 4u -10g carb just call me a fat git :D

[grace girl]

The lowest I have is 1:10 for breakfast...but that's only for super busy days...normally it's 1:9.

[RobiJo]

1u: 8g for breakfast and lunch
1u: 6g for dinner. 7 or 8 is my usual dinner time and my highest basal is from 8p-12a (2.1) I find I can do 1:8g if I got afternoon exercise or was extra active.

[notme]

I have a 1:6 to 1:10. I lose!!!! :o

[Lizzie G]

i have a pretty big swing, if i havent exercised the day before i can be 1:10 in morning (usually 1:12); later in the day with no exercise 1:15 but if exercising a lot can be as low as 1:25 (and to think they thought i was type 2 for a moment!)

[Mich]

Mine's1:9 on a normal day.

Mich

[princesslinda]

Ok..dumb T2 in the house!...why does the I:C ratio vary from meal to meal? Why does it vary from person to person if you are making none of your own insulin anyway?

[georgepds]

Just guessing... but there are two ends of the problem.. how much insulin you make and how well you use it. As you point out, those with tyie 1 (IDDM) don't make insulin. How well you use it depends on person and time of day ( which suggests the influence of other hormones during the day)

[xMenace]

Ok..dumb T2 in the house!...why does the I:C ratio vary from meal to meal? Why does it vary from person to person if you are making none of your own insulin anyway?

Consider the dawn phenomenon: a release of hormonic soup that makes us insulin resistant. Our bodies realease this stuff continually, but it's not always at the same level. Our bodies tend to shut down and need less for our afternoon siestas and night time snoozes and wakes up and needs more for our morning charge and evening mating rituals. These swings mean different basals and different bolus ratios.

[princesslinda]

So you determine these ratios by taking "x" amount of insulin and if it doesn't give you the expected post-meal results you increase your insulin by a few increments each time until there's very little variance after meals?

I'm just thinking that as a T2 i'll eventually end up on insulin, and the T2s I know of who are on insulin basically take just 1-2 shots a day...which is much less than that taken by most everyone here on insulin. Are the needs of a T2 on insulin going to be different than that of a T1?

[shiftzor]

I Would like to make an entry for the highest I:C, I warn you though these are still experimental ;) Not 100% tested. Do I get a medal? I have a TDD of 9.5 at the moment, might need to increase my ratio at dinner, i predict to 1:60 approximately.

1:23 morning
1:32 lunch
1:54 dinner

[Real4]

I'm just thinking that as a T2 i'll eventually end up on insulin, and the T2s I know of who are on insulin basically take just 1-2 shots a day...which is much less than that taken by most everyone here on insulin. Are the needs of a T2 on insulin going to be different than that of a T1?

I'm a T2 on insulin and I take 6 to 8 shots a day; 2 basal, 1 get-up in the morning correction, 1 per meal or snack (4), and other corrections. That's what's required, so that's what I do.

[shiftzor]

I'm a T2 on insulin and I take 6 to 8 shots a day; 2 basal, 1 get-up in the morning correction, 1 per meal or snack (4), and other corrections. That's what's required, so that's what I do.

To work out your I:C (Insulin : Carb) ratio, calculate the carbs in your meal, take each item and do ((100 / carbs per 100g)*weight of food). Then divide the sum of the answers by the number of units of insulin. The point of having an I:C is that it allows you to vary your carbs, so if the next day you wanted more or less carbs you could easily adjust your insulin. To prove that your I:C works you can test before the meal and 2:30 hours later. I know your a type 2 but it might help you as you are insulin dependent, us type 1s have lots of fun with this. ;)

Carb Counting 101 (http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_food_diet/carb_counting.php)

[grace girl]

Princess Linda, I'll throw this in the mix, too. I take lantus 2x a day, and I have to take into consideration how much each shot drops my BG on when deciding carb ratios. I have three different ratios, all based on what's going on with my basal at any given time. And I have lower ratios when I'm more active, and higher ratios when I'm not.
This whole manual pancreas thing is a lot of work!

[princesslinda]

This whole manual pancreas thing is a lot of work!

AMEN! I hoping my IQ will dramatically increase before I have the need for insulin!;). I imagine this takes a long time to perfect. I really admire the great control so many of you manage to achieve...that is a LOT of work! Impressive people you T1s!

[shabbie]

okay heres mine

daytime i:C (8am to 5pm) its 1:19
then for evening its 1:8

[MinimedPumper07]

I Would like to make an entry for the highest I:C, I warn you though these are still experimental ;) Not 100% tested. Do I get a medal? I have a TDD of 9.5 at the moment, might need to increase my ratio at dinner, i predict to 1:60 approximately.

1:23 morning
1:32 lunch
1:54 dinner

wtf...

and your not honeymooning either thats crazy