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Macophile
08-15-2008, 11:14 AM
Hi,
I posted a question on here but it was removed for some reason.... so my question now is does anyone here who is pre-diabetic have Peripheral Neuropathy? And what is it like for you? I don't think mine if following the common pathways so to speak.

Larry H.
08-15-2008, 11:18 AM
I would guess that mine takes the form of some rather dull feeling toes and bottoms of my feet with occasional tingling sensations when walking. Other than that I don't think I have any.

Tropo
08-16-2008, 03:04 AM
Is it even possible that a person could have peripheral neuropathy caused by excess blood sugar at such an early stage of diabetes? Perhaps there is another cause.

Macophile
08-17-2008, 09:25 AM
Is it even possible that a person could have peripheral neuropathy caused by excess blood sugar at such an early stage of diabetes? Perhaps there is another cause.

Apparently it is. My dr. doesn't think that mine could be completely from this though, as it is too severe based on such an early sage of diabetes. But I just wanted to find out from others what kind of things their neuropathy did, and if mine was partially from diabetes then maybe it would be similar to theirs.

Tropo
08-23-2008, 07:01 AM
Apparently it is. My dr. doesn't think that mine could be completely from this though, as it is too severe based on such an early sage of diabetes. But I just wanted to find out from others what kind of things their neuropathy did, and if mine was partially from diabetes then maybe it would be similar to theirs.

Perhaps your question will get more response in another forum (type 1 or 2). I don't think many prediabetics would have much experience with this condition.

CaptainMike
08-23-2008, 08:29 AM
I found out I had diabetes because I went to the Dr. for what I thought was Carpal Tunnel syndrome. Numbness and tingling in my palms and outer 3 fingers. Turned out my FBG was in the 270's. Also had some slight tingling in my feet. Was gone within 1 month of starting treatment. FBG's < 110

Macophile
08-23-2008, 10:19 AM
I found out I had diabetes because I went to the Dr. for what I thought was Carpal Tunnel syndrome. Numbness and tingling in my palms and outer 3 fingers. Turned out my FBG was in the 270's. Also had some slight tingling in my feet. Was gone within 1 month of starting treatment. FBG's < 110

Thanks, my FBG is normal. about 70. But my neuropathy started as numbness then progressed to pain (tingling, pins and needles, sharp shooting pains, burning, etc... basically evry kind you could imagine.) I have been on pills for 3.5 months and have seen no improvement, in fact my neuropathy has gotten worse. And through all this my BG is almost always under 120.

homeschoolmom
08-23-2008, 05:20 PM
I think it is totally possible to have neuropathy at the prediabetic stage. If you google impaired glucose tolerance and neuropathy, you'll find lots of articles stating that neuropathy is often the FIRST sign of impaired glucose tolerance!! I had a tingling in my feet that went up to above my ankles and eventually turned into a numbness. My dr. didn't think it could possibly be neuropathy due to blood sugar, but after a few weeks of restricting carbs, it went away. Also, R- lipoic acid is supposed to be a good treatment for it.

Tropo
08-23-2008, 09:48 PM
I think it is totally possible to have neuropathy at the prediabetic stage. If you google impaired glucose tolerance and neuropathy, you'll find lots of articles stating that neuropathy is often the FIRST sign of impaired glucose tolerance!! I had a tingling in my feet that went up to above my ankles and eventually turned into a numbness. My dr. didn't think it could possibly be neuropathy due to blood sugar, but after a few weeks of restricting carbs, it went away. Also, R- lipoic acid is supposed to be a good treatment for it.

I'll take this as a wake call. It would seem that damage is already being done at even slightly elevated levels.

augoldminer
08-23-2008, 10:13 PM
I have had neuropathy for 6 years.
and just became a diabetic.

But i also have sarcoidosis and believe it had a effect on both the neuropathy and the diabetes.

The sarc gave me fibromyalgia neuropathy and exercise intolerance.
and i gained 70 pounds this made the diabetes a given.

Mich
08-23-2008, 10:16 PM
Look on this page,

Peripheral Neuropathy Fact Sheet: National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS) (http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/peripheralneuropathy/detail_peripheralneuropathy.htm)

Also, google Peripheral Neuropathy.

Macophile
08-24-2008, 06:37 AM
I think it is totally possible to have neuropathy at the prediabetic stage. If you google impaired glucose tolerance and neuropathy, you'll find lots of articles stating that neuropathy is often the FIRST sign of impaired glucose tolerance!! I had a tingling in my feet that went up to above my ankles and eventually turned into a numbness. My dr. didn't think it could possibly be neuropathy due to blood sugar, but after a few weeks of restricting carbs, it went away. Also, R- lipoic acid is supposed to be a good treatment for it.

Oh, I know it is possible, but my Dr. doesn't think it is possible to have my level of pain and difficulty based on the stage of where my Pre-diabetes is. And the fact that even with treatment the neuropathy is still getting worse while the blood sugar is fine.

Macophile
08-24-2008, 06:49 AM
I have had neuropathy for 6 years.
and just became a diabetic.

But i also have sarcoidosis and believe it had a effect on both the neuropathy and the diabetes.

The sarc gave me fibromyalgia neuropathy and exercise intolerance.
and i gained 70 pounds this made the diabetes a given.


Ok, now this sounds exactly like me. I have had neuropathy for 1.5 years now, and I have "exercise intolerance", which in my book means that when I exercise the pain in my feet gets much worse. (And it is almost intolerable already, so to make it worse, is like poking an angry bear.)
The Rheumatologists think I have Sarcoid, or another Inflammatory Auto-Immune disease, (based on the fact I had Erythema Nodosum, and Optic Neuritis, Swelling, And Blood tests that point them in that direction, like the Ced rate being elevated for 2 years now.) And they also think I have Fibromyalgia.
They are going to start treatment (can't do steroids, or don't want to because I had such massive doses because of the Optic Neuritis) but are waiting to check in with my Neuro. But I just wanted to check in with people who had Diabetic Neuropathy and see if their pattern was similar or different from mine... Like:

Does it get worse with exercise?
Does it get worse progressively during the day?
Is it worse when you are lying down?
If you are asleep that when you wake up is is worse for a while then calms down?

homeschoolmom
08-24-2008, 06:51 AM
You might want to try vitamin B complex. I have read that neuropathy could be due to a lack of vitamin B. I have been using Shaklee vitamin B complex for a few months now just in case it was due to this. It is important to take the complex because the B vitamins shouldn't be taken in isolation of each other. I have a gene mutation (mthfr) that basically means I'm more prone to blood clots, miscarriages, stroke etc., and that I don't absorb the B vitamins well. I had 4 healthy pregnancies and wouldn't have even known I had it if my sister hadn't been tested for it after her 2 miscarriages. When I went into a premature menopause, they found out I had it as well. Apparently, it is not uncommon, and does run in families.

Macophile
08-24-2008, 07:03 AM
Look on this page,

Peripheral Neuropathy Fact Sheet: National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS) (http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/peripheralneuropathy/detail_peripheralneuropathy.htm)

Also, google Peripheral Neuropathy.

Thanks. I read through it. It makes me feel a little hopeless though. As they have tried almost everything on me for treatment for pain and nothing seems to work well.

Macophile
08-24-2008, 07:07 AM
You might want to try vitamin B complex. I have read that neuropathy could be due to a lack of vitamin B. I have been using Shaklee vitamin B complex for a few months now just in case it was due to this. It is important to take the complex because the B vitamins shouldn't be taken in isolation of each other. I have a gene mutation (mthfr) that basically means I'm more prone to blood clots, miscarriages, stroke etc., and that I don't absorb the B vitamins well. I had 4 healthy pregnancies and wouldn't have even known I had it if my sister hadn't been tested for it after her 2 miscarriages. When I went into a premature menopause, they found out I had it as well. Apparently, it is not uncommon, and does run in families.

Thanks for the tip. :) I hope everything continues going well with you.