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[maya0606]

Hi,
I have been diabetic since i was 10 now i am 22 and i am starting to control mu sugar but i still have my cheat day as I am right now enjoying M&Ms on my work desk.

My problem is I have no confidence in my self when it comes to my weight I am 5'2-3 and i way 128- 130lbs and I feel sooo FAT and now I am in school full time for Business Marketing and also work this is my schedule:
Monday school 8 AM to 4 PM
Tuesday school 8 AM to 4 PM
Wed work 10 AM to 630 PM
Thursday work 10 am to 630 PM
Friday school 12 pm to 4 pm
saturday & sunday work 9:30 to 6PM

I find it soo hard for me now to do my work out and eat healthy and go to school and make sure I am doing my HW I could eat healthy but I feel like if I do not do my work out I am going to gain weight it became a fear to me! right when i start controlling my sugar the next day i feel like I gained 10 LBS when it probably isn't true !! so now I am actually eating M&Ms because i went out with friends last night to a bar for a bday party and honestly I did not drink because before I went out I just finished doing 30 min cardio, I ordered Smoked Salmon Sandwich with Whole wheat bread and garden salad it was DELICIOUS!!!! but because I put more insulin that usual i felt FAT again!!! my friends were all enjoying there chicken wings and delicious fries and of course i give up and started picking on there chicken and fries not a lot but enough i guess for me to control my sugar!! I really need help on how much i should eat as being Type 1 diabetic is there a minimum amount of carbs to eat for a diabetic? and how can i prevent gaining weight or even thinking that i am gaining! i feel like I am not ganna be able to make it with my schedule !!

[owlyn]

The overall technique is very simple in theory: Eat Less Exercise More. Getting this done is all in the mind. you have time in your schedule to exercise. I work full time and my days are longer than yours. I exercise in the evening. 45-60 minutes 3 or 4 time a week. I eat all kinds of cr@p and have managed to maintain my weight and an OK (not perfect) A1C. And I know people who exercise more than I do with longer work hours. It's a matter of setting your priorities and applying your mind. It's all easier said than done, but not impossible.

[maya0606]

But I have exams and if i do my work out late i got early classes so i feel tired the next day for class and also to do my work out :S:S:S but yeah I guess I just need to eat better
this is what my meals are and tell me what you think.

Morning 2 pack of Oatmeal 23carbs each 3g of fiber each and 2 scrambelled eggs so basical I put 4 units of humolog

snack:

one plain yogurt 10 g of carbs and 40g of sunflowers 9g of carbs) 20 units of humolog

Lunch
Multigrain sliced Bread ( 20 grams of carbs)
3 sliced of truckey breast or chicken or roat beef)

thats 2 units of humolog


Snack

sometimes i take 4.4oz of bluberries and thats 20 carbs or same things as my morning snack but with almonds or Peacans


Dinner at 7 pm

same thing as my lunch

and an hour after i do 30 to an hour cardip it deppends

before bed 16 units of Lantus

[BlueSky]

... My problem is I have no confidence in my self when it comes to my weight I am 5'2-3 and i way 128- 130lbs and I feel sooo FAT ... because I put more insulin that usual i felt FAT again!!! .... I really need help on how much i should eat as being Type 1 diabetic is there a minimum amount of carbs to eat for a diabetic? and how can i prevent gaining weight or even thinking that i am gaining! ....
Are you in fact overweight and/or gaining weight? It sounds like there could be a body image issue there, in which case it is probably messing with your perceptions. All I can say is that if you cut right back on the carbs, you may find that you don't get as hungry, you won't need to inject as much insulin, and managing your weight should be easier. The best time of day to reduce carbs is at breakfast. A high protein/fat breakfast gets the day off to a good start. I find it makes managing blood sugar and controlling eating during the rest of the day much easier. :)

I would cut out the oatmeal at breakfast and have a third egg, or maybe cheese, sausages or bacon. You may find that you don't get as hungry and don't need that morning snack, which is also a lot of carbs, anymore.

[maya0606]

So you're saying I shouldnt be eatin any carbs in the morning?? or should I replace it with Toasted bread and maybe buetter? cause I work out and i think if i have no carbs in my system i wont have enough energy as carbs is energy!

[KCP]

Its a commen misconception that you NEED to carbs, and beleive me, i used to think that exact same way you are now.
YOu could swap the bfast for more protein, eggs are good :)

Granted, these days im living on fruit, veges, milk and yoghurt lol I eat grain bread, no white or flour based breads. no pasta, no rice.. ANd meats of any kind make me feel ill so i dont eat it.. ANd im doing fine :) HAve lost 2 kg's in a month and all my clothes are hangin off me now!!! its crazy.. it could also be because im on Metformin now and my insulin needs are so low!! I went from needing 10u with 2x toast to 3u!!!

[BlueSky]

So you're saying I shouldnt be eatin any carbs in the morning?? or should I replace it with Toasted bread and maybe buetter? cause I work out and i think if i have no carbs in my system i wont have enough energy as carbs is energy!
Yes, I am suggesting that you try cutting out carbs for breakfast entirely. Replacing oatmeal with toast would defeat the purpose of the experiment. Carbs require lots of insulin, which stores fat. They also tend to make us hungry later on.

The notion that "carbs are energy" is actually a fallacy. Most energy comes from fat. And most of the carb you eat for breakfast will be turned into fat before it is used as fuel during your workout. So you really don't need to eat much carbohydrate at all. Many people do fine on 30 grams of carb a day , and they only eat it to access vitamins in plant food.

Having said that, the first 20 minutes of exercise requires lots of glucose, so don't let you blood sugar drop. Have some carb immediately before and during the workout.

[maya0606]

Could u please give an example of u meals during the day so I could have an idea and how much insulin u put rtoo plz


Its a commen misconception that you NEED to carbs, and beleive me, i used to think that exact same way you are now.
YOu could swap the bfast for more protein, eggs are good :)

Granted, these days im living on fruit, veges, milk and yoghurt lol I eat grain bread, no white or flour based breads. no pasta, no rice.. ANd meats of any kind make me feel ill so i dont eat it.. ANd im doing fine :) HAve lost 2 kg's in a month and all my clothes are hangin off me now!!! its crazy.. it could also be because im on Metformin now and my insulin needs are so low!! I went from needing 10u with 2x toast to 3u!!!

[maya0606]

I will give you my idea of doing my meal and you tell me if this is good to start with ( so sorry just need some help with it)

Breakfast:
3 eggs

Snack:
Sunflower 9g of carbs 3g Fiber
Plane yogurt 10g

Lunch:
2 Whole wheat sliced bread 19g ofcarbs 4g Fiber
Turckey breast with tomato and salad.

Snack:

Bluberries 4.4oz 20G of Carbs



Dinner:
Vegie soup ( broccoli, Onions, Salery, ONE patato, carrots, Zucckini) Chicken Breast Grilled.


PM snack before cardio:

fruit? (appel, Banana)
or
Granola bar = 15g of carbs



What do you think???:D





Yes, I am suggesting that you try cutting out carbs for breakfast entirely. Replacing oatmeal with toast would defeat the purpose of the experiment. Carbs require lots of insulin, which stores fat. They also tend to make us hungry later on.

The notion that "carbs are energy" is actually a fallacy. Most energy comes from fat. And most of the carb you eat for breakfast will be turned into fat before it is used as fuel during your workout. So you really don't need to eat much carbohydrate at all. Many people do fine on 30 grams of carb a day , and they only eat it to access vitamins in plant food.

Having said that, the first 20 minutes of exercise requires lots of glucose, so don't let you blood sugar drop. Have some carb immediately before and during the workout.

[BlueSky]

... What do you think???:D
It looks like the main change is taking the carbs out of breakfast, which is a good place to start. Do lots of testing in the mornings so that you can see exactly what happens. You may find that you still need ti inject insulin to cover the eggs. And give it a chance to settle down. I found that things got a lot easier after doing this. Good luck and let us know how it goes. :)

[maya0606]

Thank you I will deffinitly letyou all know :-)

[KCP]

Well here's what im eating at the moment, but remember, im also on metformin which gets rid of my insulin resistance.

Lantus Does: 10 Morning - 12 night

Bfast: 2x grain toast 3u Novo rapid now: Before 10u
Mtea: apple - 2u now: Before 8u
Lunch: Vege soup OR green salad with cheese OR tuna on low carb crackers 3u now: before 10u
Atea: tea
Dinner: Roast veges OR steamed veges OR low carb crackers OR homemade chinese dumplings with vege inner - 3units now: before 10-11u

So as you can see my insulin needs has dropped dramatically.. i blame the metformin lol
but to be honest, i dont eat alot anymore, and im never hungry. I feel its because my body, when it is hungry, is actually in need of nutrients instead of me over eating etc i eat when i need to not because my diabetes insulin regime demands it or because i get bored.. Cos honestly, i dont crave!!!

[matingara]

I will give you my idea of doing my meal and you tell me if this is good to start with ( so sorry just need some help with it)

Breakfast:
3 eggs

Snack:
Sunflower 9g of carbs 3g Fiber
Plane yogurt 10g

Lunch:
2 Whole wheat sliced bread 19g ofcarbs 4g Fiber
Turckey breast with tomato and salad.

Snack:
Bluberries 4.4oz 20G of Carbs

Dinner:
Vegie soup ( broccoli, Onions, Salery, ONE patato, carrots, Zucckini) Chicken Breast Grilled.
PM snack before cardio:
fruit? (appel, Banana)
or
Granola bar = 15g of carbs

What do you think???:D

for what it is worth i would try the following. try a zero/almost zero carb breakfast. such as eggs (as above).

try to limit the carbs to 12 grams for lunch and another 12 grams for dinner.

don't eat bananas or crunchy bars (whatever). instead for snacks have cheese or salami or celery or something else very low carb.

:)

-- Joel.

[Erin]

My problem is I have no confidence in my self when it comes to my weight I am 5'2-3 and i way 128- 130lbs and I feel sooo FAT and now I am in school full time for Business...

I ordered Smoked Salmon Sandwich with Whole wheat bread and garden salad it was DELICIOUS!!!! but because I put more insulin that usual i felt FAT again!!! my friends were all enjoying there chicken wings and delicious fries and of course i give up and started picking on there chicken and fries not a lot but enough i guess for me to control my sugar!! I really need help on how much i should eat as being Type 1 diabetic is there a minimum amount of carbs to eat for a diabetic? and how can i prevent gaining weight or even thinking that i am gaining! i feel like I am not ganna be able to make it with my schedule !!

I would not suggest changing your diet, I would suggest thinking about your thinking. Maybe even talking to somebody professional about it.

I am within 1 inch and 3 pounds of you, and am considered a normal healthy weight, by my doctors. For the record I am one inch SHORTER than you. Sure sometimes I want to lose 5 or 10 pounds, but not to be healthy, but because our society puts a premium on thinness. When i comment on wanting to lose weight people around me usually say "why? you look great" I am saying this not to toot my own horn, but because of how similar our body types are. I do not think you need to drastically change anything you are doing. I fear that you could end up with an eating disorder if you try limiting yourself much more. Your diet seems good to me.

Be careful if you start low carbing, as you will need to adjust your insulin accordingly. Less carbs equals less insulin. That said, eat a normal healthy diet, and take the insulin you need to cover it. Do you have an insulin to carb ratio worked out? That might help you.

And I think you need to get this More insulin = I'm fat idea out of your head. Insulin does not make you fat. Insulin controls your blood sugar so you don't get sick and die. Food fuels your body so you don't get sick and die. You need isulin. You also need food.

[KCP]

true true :)
Insulin does not make you fat. It properly metabolises the food you add to your system. So if you eat more, you put on weight. If your eating well balanced meals, then you should have no problems :)

[maya0606]

Yeah well I am pretty mad today

I woke up my sugar was 8.2 this morning
I had 3 eges and one slice of cheese 2 hours later i was ganna go for my snack guess how much was my sugar?? 18.5!!!! WHY??? honestly why????? this is just confusing and depressingggggg grrrrrr not only that i did my normal dozage (btw this never happened to me b4) and I had plane yogurt with sunflowers seeds (sunflowers for 40g of it t has 9g of carbs yogurt 10g crabs) so 2 hours later i had my test taken again it was 13.5 !!!!!!! omggg honeslty I am already ready to give up and eat whatever i want ant not put my insuline!

I would not suggest changing your diet, I would suggest thinking about your thinking. Maybe even talking to somebody professional about it.

I am within 1 inch and 3 pounds of you, and am considered a normal healthy weight, by my doctors. For the record I am one inch SHORTER than you. Sure sometimes I want to lose 5 or 10 pounds, but not to be healthy, but because our society puts a premium on thinness. When i comment on wanting to lose weight people around me usually say "why? you look great" I am saying this not to toot my own horn, but because of how similar our body types are. I do not think you need to drastically change anything you are doing. I fear that you could end up with an eating disorder if you try limiting yourself much more. Your diet seems good to me.

Be careful if you start low carbing, as you will need to adjust your insulin accordingly. Less carbs equals less insulin. That said, eat a normal healthy diet, and take the insulin you need to cover it. Do you have an insulin to carb ratio worked out? That might help you.

And I think you need to get this More insulin = I'm fat idea out of your head. Insulin does not make you fat. Insulin controls your blood sugar so you don't get sick and die. Food fuels your body so you don't get sick and die. You need isulin. You also need food.

[owlyn]

It sound slike your basal rate is wacked out. What is your insulin regemin?

[maya0606]

It sound slike your basal rate is wacked out. What is your insulin regemin?
WHat you mean by my bsale rate is wacked out??
I put 1unit per 10carbs


I put 0 units on breakfast
Snack I put 2 units og Humolog

Lunch 2 units
Snack 2 Units

Dinner 2 units
u
Before bed 16 units of Lantus

but becaause i did not eat a lot of carbs I reduced my Lantus to 12units last night, but it seems like it woked fine as I had 8.2 in the morning

[BlueSky]

... Before bed 16 units of Lantus

but becaause i did not eat a lot of carbs I reduced my Lantus to 12units last night, but it seems like it woked fine as I had 8.2 in the morning
Lantus is not supposed to cover carbs. It covers your basal insulin requirement, regardless of how much carb you eat. Reducing your Lantus meant that you didn't have enough basal coverage in the morning, which is probably why your blood sugar went up.

Many of us also find that we need to cover for protein too. It means that you may need some Humalog to cover an eggs and cheese breakfast that contains no carbohydrate. You just have top try it out and see what happens. But make sure that your 16 units of Lantus is satisfying your basal needs first. You do this by skipping breakfast and seeing what happens.

[maya0606]

but why would I put Humolog if I do not eat any carbs? if I put it I am 100% sure my sugar will go down as i walk a lot during teh day cause I go to school by bus my classes are alays on teh 3rd level so i take the stairs.....

but why would it bring my sugar up in the morning if there is n carbs? thats my question :-)

Thanks

p.s can the blood sugar go up and down if you're on your menstrual month?

[KCP]

THe answer to the last question is a resounding 100% unequivicol YES~! Insulin is a hormone, your metrual time is prdoduced by a hormone.. so, yes, your fluctuating hormone levels have a major effect on your blood sugars...
ALso, i would not recommend cutting back all humolog.. try lowering it slowly, but getting rid of it completely. try thinking of it as: when something goes in my mouth i may need insulin. Regardless of whether it is all protein or low carb..

Also, your lantus covers the baseline of your bodies sugar levels. Lowering your lantus and then giving no humolog.. Your blood sugars will rise. Keep the lantus where it is and then try. If your sugars rise, the next day give some humolog. This is not a quick process that can be completed over night. It took me months of testing and highs and lows to find my insulin ratios!!!

[BlueSky]

but why would I put Humolog if I do not eat any carbs? if I put it I am 100% sure my sugar will go down as i walk a lot during teh day cause I go to school by bus my classes are alays on teh 3rd level so i take the stairs

but why would it bring my sugar up in the morning if there is n carbs? thats my question :-)...
Because your basal insulin (Lantus) is not sufficient to keep your blood sugar down. Carbohydrate is only one of a number of things that increase blood sugar. Blood sugar also goes up when the liver makes glucose, and you don't have to eat anything to make this happen. It happens when you are stressed, when there is hormonal activity, and when it is a long time since your last meal. And if there isn't enough insulin in your bloodstream to clear this glucose from your blood strea, your blood sugar will go up.

The liver makes glucose during the night to keep your body ticking over, which is why blood sugar often goes up in the morning, even if you don't eat anything . This is why you may need to inject more insulin before breakfast than is needed to deal with the carbohydrate you plan to eat.

Non-carbohydrate foods also make blood sugar go up. I inject lots of fast acting insulin before a breakfast consisting only of eggs, cheese and mushrooms. It is partly to deal with glucose my liver is producing, and partly because protein foods also use insulin.

[maya0606]

Can someone give me a good non carbs just protein breakfast that i would like!!! because i am always having 3 eggs and i am sick of it haha!

[Erin]

but why would it bring my sugar up in the morning if there is n carbs? thats my question :-)

Thanks

p.s can the blood sugar go up and down if you're on your menstrual month?

To answer your first question: When I was on lantus i needed to eat a small amount of carbs in the morning and bolus for them otherwise I drifted upwards until lunchtime, often ending up in the mid 200's. The flat basal action of lantus didn't meet my AM needs, and I needed a "boost" of rapid acting to get my numbers straightened out. If I took more lantus I'd end up low for the rest of the day. This is why I love my pump. Just get a little more basal in the AM and I"m golden. I'd suggest eating 10 - 15 g of carbs in the am and bolusing appropriately. That's what I did and it worked like a charm.

To answer your second question: YES! 2 weeks out of the month are absolutely nutty for me. The week before my period I'm high all week unless I fix my rates, and the week of my period I"m low all week. This is pretty typical.

[maya0606]

Ohhh ok mine just goes up when i am getting them