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maya0606
10-08-2008, 12:10 PM
so i went to see my doctot yesterday in May 2008 my A1C was 8.2 and yesturday it was 12.5!!!! :O I am soo disapointed in my self that i even give up on controling my sugar, i feel soo depressed and sad and just wanting to give up on everything even my studies because I fee like i shouldnt go to school cause I am not ganan be living any longer.
oh yeah and i am only soon turning 22 Oct 20 ill be it.
HELP
EeyoreButterfly
10-08-2008, 12:32 PM
It sounds like you are having a rough time at the moment. I don't know what happened that caused your A1c to spike like that, but you can change it. The important thing is to not give up. You will have a long life ahead of you, but you do have to keep working at it. You have a great support group here who can help you figure things out. You might also want to talk to your doctor about how you are feeling. Most universities have a free counseling center, you may want to talk to them as well. :flowers: I hope you feel better soon.
maya0606
10-08-2008, 12:59 PM
YEAH I talked to my doctor i am going to see a counsler :s
princesslinda
10-08-2008, 01:04 PM
Speaking as an almost 45 year old...at age 22, you have a lot of life ahead of you! I'm T2, so I can't imagine how stressful it must be as a young T1 and having to focus so much on your diabetes.
Every day is a chance to start over and get better control. You deserve a long, happy and healthy life and keeping your blood sugars better controlled will go a long way in helping you achieve that.
With your blood sugars so high, its only natural that you feel bad right now, but as they normalize, you should feel better with each passing day.
Hang in there!!!! You have many years of life left, lots of things to do, places to go and people to see. Don't give up so soon! Fight for the life you deserve!
xMenace
10-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Maya, what are you taking for insulin? You do know that Ontario is giving out free pumps to adults. MOHLTC - News Release - Ontario Funds Free Insulin Pumps for Adults (http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/media/news_releases/archives/nr_08/aug/nr_20080831.html)
Do you have any idea what your I:C rates should be?
maya0606
10-08-2008, 01:19 PM
I dont like the pump its not something i like to advetise with it showing that I am diabetic the reason for me not controling my sugar is the weight gaining and its killing me its been liek this since i was 13 and I cannot handle it!!! i take insline humlog 1 uni for 10 carbs but right now I am not taking anything atall just maybe 5 units if my sugar is really hight, cause i found a way of losing weight
mazea
10-08-2008, 02:00 PM
i take insline humlog 1 uni for 10 carbs but right now I am not taking anything atall just maybe 5 units if my sugar is really hight, cause i found a way of losing weight
Can I clarify. Did you just say that you are using less insulin than you need to? And deliberately running your blood sugars high so you can lose weight?
IrishJoe
10-08-2008, 02:08 PM
I dont like the pump its not something i like to advetise with it showing that I am diabetic the reason for me not controling my sugar is the weight gaining and its killing me its been liek this since i was 13 and I cannot handle it!!! i take insline humlog 1 uni for 10 carbs but right now I am not taking anything atall just maybe 5 units if my sugar is really hight, cause i found a way of losing weight
its called KETO ACIDOSIS AND ITS FRICKING NASTY. That isn't healthy, you will a have broked heart and brain if you continue. Check your ketones and TAKE YOUR FRICKKIN INSULIN!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Psycho Penguin
10-08-2008, 02:09 PM
So you don't take as much insulin as you're supposed to, yet are surprised your A1C is so high? Get it together, man.
sable_032592
10-08-2008, 02:23 PM
i know how you feel... for the past few years, since my coma in 99, my a1c has been around 13, the highest was 13.6 i think... i get depressed about it and it feels like i'm fighting an uphill battle with no light at the end of the tunnel... it's a constant struggle and there seems to be no end in sight... i just keep trying to lower my levels but they seem to want to jump back up...
i also have a problem with weight and we all know that insulin makes you gain weight, but not taking the amount you need or not taking it all is not the answer... i was diagnosed when i was 15 and i was sure then that i would be dead by 30, and what's worse, i was so scared of being diabetic that when i saw the movie "steel magnolias", i went into a deep depression for years, i was sure my life was over...
but here i am, still fighting for control at 32, almost 33 (in may) and i'm really lucky too... had i given up, i would have never seen my two sisters' children, one of them is having her 6th next friday (17th) and i've been there for all 6 of her kids, i'm a godmother to 2 of hers and one of my other sister's...
the point is, don't give up, i know it feels like it would be easier to just stop taking your insulin or to not listen to any medical advice, but i have to say this, when i fell into a diabetic coma in 99, it was a horrible way to go... you throw up constantly, you're so thirsty you could drink anything (i drank warm bath water i was so thirsty) and you're tired tired tired... then your body does what it wants to, it turns your blood into sugar crystals... and i don't remember a thing from sunday morning until tuesday night... i'm not saying it wasn't painful, because it was... the recovery was painful and the days leading up to the coma was painful... when i say throwing up constantly, i mean i barfed every 10 - 15 minutes...
please don't give up... i know we all have our own experiences and being diabetic is an angry disease to have, but in the end, you'll be stronger...
Dr. NotkNow
10-09-2008, 04:13 AM
You are way too beautiful to let yourself waste away. You know others have it worse , Pick yourself up and just do what you can to get back on track. If you need someone to talk with get a hold of me.
maya0606
10-09-2008, 07:44 AM
Yes!!!!! :( it's sad
maya0606
10-09-2008, 07:52 AM
I checked my keytones on Thursday its fine its at 0.3 as long as it does not go over 0.6 i am fine
maya0606
10-09-2008, 08:06 AM
Honestly its easy to say but at the end when i see my self bigger i get soo depressed too anyway.... so both ways i am depressed i am unhappy either way!!!... if my sugar is soo high i am tired i came to a point where i did barf, i was doing really good that before my A1C was 14.2 and put it down to 8.2 and now i went up to 12.5 BECAUSE when i went back home on vacation most of my family were like " OMG MAYA YOU GAINED SO MUCH WEIGHT" and that just got me soo depressed so i stopped controlling it when i was there for the whole summer which was 6 weeks and i just kept on going because when i lost 15lbs people from school and work were all like waw you look good and now i have this big fear of gaining and looking FAT AGAIN.... its horrible i know!! I know what could happened to me but i just cant help it.... like this morning my sugar was i think 25.4 and i did not put insulin i had 3 eggs and one boston cream donut large coffe(no sugar) and one croissant and now i am feeling sick of course!
Maya, there are two things to remember about insulin and weight gain.
The first is that your body needs a certain amount of insulin to survive. That is your basal insulin. Usually a slow acting insulin, like Glargine (Lantus) is used for basal. BASAL INSULIN WILL NOT CAUSE WEIGHT GAIN. It just keeps you alive.
The second is bolus insulin, the type you use when you eat something. If you very little bolus insulin YOU WILL NOT GAIN WEIGHT. There are two ways to do this: a) eat all protein and fat and no more than a cup of salad greens a day. b) get at least 30 minutes of exercise per day. If you keep your carbs under 30-40 per day (everything has at least a tiny bit of carb--get the Calorie King book) that would be 3.5 or 4.5 units of bolus insulin.
Follow this and you will not gain weight and you will have normal blood sugars and you will not be killing yourself. You may find as I do that you like eating low carb. You have a lot of living ahead of you. Don't miss it.
With a big hug,
Mich
maya0606
10-09-2008, 08:11 AM
Thanks mr.notknow... ill try my best to accept how i look like :s
mortis505
10-09-2008, 10:12 AM
Maya, words can be unkind, and words from family can be the worst. Ignore them. They are only words. The thing here is that you need to do what you have to to stay alive. Complications from diabetes doesn't just involve death. There is retinopathy, neuropathy, heart problems, etc, etc. Go low carb and get a little exercise every day and you wont gain weight. You will feel worlds better. Tell your family that you will do whats right for you and they should let you be.
I know its hard. We all do. But please don't give up.
maya0606
10-09-2008, 11:33 AM
I am starting right now I just put 23 units of insuline cause my suger is super hight just made a veggies soup with patato, broccoli, salery, zucckini and red pepper with roasted chicken :-)
mageerobin
10-09-2008, 11:39 AM
Maya, I am not saying this out of meaness, but I do feel that you might need professional counseling. At the least tell your doctor what you have posted here. You may have an eating disorder but instead of making yourself throw up--you let BG's go up and lose weight that way. I feel that with some discipline you can have your levels under control as well as any weight gains.
I need to lose about 20 pounds myself!! I'll make a pact wit you and we'll do it together.
Robin
maya0606
10-09-2008, 11:53 AM
I know I do!! like omg i just ate right now and put my insulin and I feel already fat!!! how crazy is this? I am getting a counsler I am seeing her on Friday ! of next week :(
I will update u and let u know what happened
DjInsulin
10-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Sometimes a little refresher course on care and how to do things is all one needs. Keep logs of everything!!! Part of fighting the highs is writing down everything you eat and how much insulin your taking. After a good 2 weeks you can really find out if your meds are the correct dosage.
I was experiencing constant lows on almost a daily basis. Living by myself it's quite scary i actually got humalog phobia (thank god for my dog who can sense low's). I switched up Dr.'s and also went to see a Diabetes Nurse and Nutrition counselor and i'm feelin a lot better. The logs i kept were essential to them adjusting my meds. They had me test when i first wake up and 2 hours after i eat. I test a bit more than that but i'm a tad OCD. I've actually lost weight and don't feel the anger, depression or despair you can get when your constantly going up and down. Just keep at it! :D
maya0606
10-09-2008, 12:37 PM
My doctor is actually very supportive! shes really nice and all I am the problem :S
Dr. NotkNow
10-09-2008, 12:53 PM
It's DR. not Mr. , but i know what you meant.
Your only part of the problem. :S :0 :)
maya0606
10-09-2008, 12:55 PM
Hahaha sorry...
BlueSky
10-09-2008, 01:09 PM
Maya,
It sounds like you have a serious body image problem, which is behind this poor control. You may not realise it, but restricting insulin is probably doing your weight management efforts more harm than good. The issue really is that insulin doesn't make you gain weight. Calories in the food you eat do that. So if you reduce food consumption to match your calorie usage, your weight will be stable. But your insulin usage also needs to be appropriate.
The problem with allowing blood glucose to go too high is that it makes you insulin resistant. As you have discovered, massive amounts of insulin are required to bring blood sugar down again. Because your body is denied the nutrition it needs, it uses available calories more efficiently. Because your body is hanging onto every calorie, you will pick up weight more easily. This is how poor control leads to weight gain.
You will find weight much easier to control when you use enough insulin to maintain stable blood glucose in the target range (80-140), and you focus weight management on controlling calories. Because insulin resistance is lower, you are able to use a lot less insulin. So you don't pick up weight as easily.
maya0606
10-09-2008, 01:21 PM
I am trying to put 10 units of insulin a day (humolog) and 1 6 units of lantus, it was workign fine. so i am ganan get back with it and see... wich me god luck :s cause i am ganan need it :(
PattiM
10-09-2008, 01:30 PM
Maya, I don't mean for this to come across as harsh, so please don't take it that way.
Things need to be taken one step at a time. Your first concern should be your health and controlling your blood sugars. Your body requires insulin to survive, and if you deny your body what it needs, the complications will be so much worse than any weight gain.
Okay, you are overweight - so what? So am I, so are millions of people that have diabetes. As mortis505 said, words can be unkind, but those words and the people they come from are much uglier on the inside than you'll ever be on the outside. They don't live your life, they don't have to live with diabetes and all that goes with it, and they really don't have any business being mean. Family or not, these people are not being supportive, and their words shouldn't even be acknowledged by you.
Please take your insulin, eat like you are suppose to, and take care of you. No one else is going to suffer by you giving up, but you will. Why put yourself through that? There is a whole life ahead of you, and being overweight is not the end of the world. If people can't accept you as you are and support you, then maybe you need to reconsider whether or not they belong in your life.
Finally, it is what you think of yourself that matters the most, not what other people think of you. When you are happy on the inside, you will have a much better outlook all the way around.
I'm on your team - please PM if you need an ear. :)
maya0606
10-09-2008, 01:50 PM
Thanks a lot Patti that really made me feel better, I am really trying my best now i just hope i continue tomorrow i will let u know !
mazea
10-09-2008, 02:13 PM
Maya, I'm glad your feeling better.
Don't ever use ketoacidois or taking less insulin to lose weight. You don't want to run your blood sugars high because you will damage your kidneys and your brain, which can not store insulin will not be getting the energy it needs.
The only way to lose weight is to change your lifestyle, and diet permantly. Quick dieting causes your metabolism to slow. Every time you quick diet your metabolism becomes even slower. Metabolism is your food converting to energy and a slow metabolism can make it difficult to lose weight.
It sounds like you family are making comments about your weight, and this family's are often where body images come from.Tell them that their comments are rude. Anyone who makes comments like that is shallow. Because of comments/views, you have developed a body image problem that probably requires some help from a councellor. Please get the help to deal with this issue.
here are some cool phrases I love.
When people are are bigger there is more to love
Beauty is only skin deep ugly is to the bone
Men like women with curves (for you in a few years preferably over 40 years old before you start dating)
drummingfool
10-09-2008, 02:20 PM
Maya...
I've been paying VERY, VERY close attention to this thread, and watching the responses. Hopefully I can help here.
You are talking to someone who has been EXACTLY where you are.
Before I was dx'd, I went from 260 lbs down to 180... thats how I knew something was wrong. After taking care of my diabetes, I shot back up to about 240. I was disgusted and decided to stop taking my insulin, because I remembered about the weight loss.
Then I started having complications. Neuropathy, temporary gastroparesis, bullimia, the whole 9 yards. Only recently have I decided to get back on it.
Yes, I've gained weight. And I'm having problems with swelling. My sugars drop now, and it sucks. But I HAVE to live with it. What the heck is the point of being thin if you're not going to live to see it?
Think about it this way... extra weight is alot more attractive than something like dialysis or amputation.
PLEASE start considering your own health. It's much more important than trying to conform to the way the world wants you to look.
walleyedave
10-09-2008, 03:06 PM
Maya...
I've been paying VERY, VERY close attention to this thread, and watching the responses. Hopefully I can help here.
You are talking to someone who has been EXACTLY where you are.
Before I was dx'd, I went from 260 lbs down to 180... thats how I knew something was wrong. After taking care of my diabetes, I shot back up to about 240. I was disgusted and decided to stop taking my insulin, because I remembered about the weight loss.
Then I started having complications. Neuropathy, temporary gastroparesis, bullimia, the whole 9 yards. Only recently have I decided to get back on it.
Yes, I've gained weight. And I'm having problems with swelling. My sugars drop now, and it sucks. But I HAVE to live with it. What the heck is the point of being thin if you're not going to live to see it?
Think about it this way... extra weight is alot more attractive than something like dialysis or amputation.
PLEASE start considering your own health. It's much more important than trying to conform to the way the world wants you to look.
Your story is very similar to mine. My weight has been up and down like a roller coaster. I went from 290lbs to 168lbs and back to 240lbs currently all within a few short years. But the bottom line has always been trying to keep my blood sugar as close to normal as possible.
maya0606
10-09-2008, 03:21 PM
yeah well right now I am at 130lbs 5'2-3 and i feel FATomg its just horribe!!! but anyway thanks a lot everyone i will do my best for sure
Psycho Penguin
10-09-2008, 04:18 PM
I'd rather be fat and alive than skinny and dead.
yeah well right now I am at 130lbs 5'2-3 and i feel FATomg its just horribe!!! but anyway thanks a lot everyone i will do my best for sure
Hey. I wish I felt that FAT. Try being the same height and ONLY about 60 pounds heavier. But, I don't feel FAT. Yes, I do need to lose some weight. Yes, it would "improve" my appearence. Yes, it would be nice, BUTT I am happy. My diet, exercise and sugar levels are within range, but my weight is out of range. It's okay.
JJM335
10-10-2008, 08:32 AM
yeah well right now I am at 130lbs 5'2-3 and i feel FATomg its just horribe!!! but anyway thanks a lot everyone i will do my best for sure
According to an online BMI calculator, at 5'2" and 130 lbs, your BMI is 23.5. That is officially in the ideal weight for height range>
Joel
Eviltwinkristy
10-10-2008, 09:01 AM
I dont like the pump its not something i like to advetise with it showing that I am diabetic the reason for me not controling my sugar is the weight gaining and its killing me its been liek this since i was 13 and I cannot handle it!!! i take insline humlog 1 uni for 10 carbs but right now I am not taking anything atall just maybe 5 units if my sugar is really hight, cause i found a way of losing weight
The best thing I did was take a pump management class and I learned so much than I ever could imagine. I thought I knew it all and how to handle everything...I was wrong. There my diabetes educator/Nurse Practitioner told me that she had a girl that was on the pump and once she got her blood sugars and basal rates under control she lost 40 pounds. Yeah the easy way to lose weight is to let your blood sugars go high but why do that, you just end up feeling like ****. Just eat low carb, keep your blood sugar under control, do a little exercise and the weight will come off. Everyone wants to easy way to do things. But don't kill yourself just to try to look good because in the end will it all be worth the weight loss when your health is suffering? So maybe the pump isn't such a bad idea if it helps you in the long run with what you are trying to accomplish.
Spbeyond
10-10-2008, 03:14 PM
The short term weight loss (it will come back) is not worth the giant list of complications. (Neuropathy, Blindness, Kidney failure, death ect...) PLease Please Please Please Please take care of yourself.... If you continue on this path all you will be is a skinny corpse. (Seriosuly get counceling if you need to.) PLEASE
Melody
10-10-2008, 03:35 PM
Think about it this way... extra weight is alot more attractive than something like dialysis or amputation.
Maya, as a person on dialysis, trust me, it's much better to keep better control of your insulin than end up in the dialysis ward. It's noisy, you have to restrict your fluid intake, and you're stuck there in a chair three or four or more times a week for hours. For me, I'm in this chair for 3 times a week for 4 hours each session. Don't let this happen to you. Please take your insulin.
This is me during dialysis. I'm only 36. I don't want to see you in one of these chairs.
http://gallery.me.com/melodyyoon/100008/IMG_0057/web.jpg
maya0606
10-10-2008, 04:43 PM
Maya, as a person on dialysis, trust me, it's much better to keep better control of your insulin than end up in the dialysis ward. It's noisy, you have to restrict your fluid intake, and you're stuck there in a chair three or four or more times a week for hours. For me, I'm in this chair for 3 times a week for 4 hours each session. Don't let this happen to you. Please take your insulin.
This is me during dialysis. I'm only 36. I don't want to see you in one of these chairs.
http://gallery.me.com/melodyyoon/100008/IMG_0057/web.jpg
wow that realy hit me :O sorry to hear that and thank you very much for makiing me realise what i am doing! this is making me cry! :'(
drummingfool
10-10-2008, 05:07 PM
My heart goes out to you, Melody. Keep up your strong fight. :)
I want you to know... seeing that has made me OFFICIALY decide to continue taking care of myself. That really hit home.
maya0606
10-11-2008, 10:41 AM
HI evryone!!
omg so today and yesterday was soo hard for me but i was also happy at teh same time,
the happy thingwas I got an 80% average on my accouting class which only 5 ppl gotthat % hehe youpi trust em it means a lot to me as i have been slacking off a lot well because of my HIGH blood sugar!!! so that made me feel soo much better but than that night which was last night we went out my friends had gumy bears it was soo hard not to have some its 36G of carbs for 23 peices but i only had 4 i think or 5 than we wen to a bar/restaurant, I am not a big fan of alcohol so I only had water but I ordered a big plate of beef garden salad that i shared with my brother! I really did not know how much units to put there was dressing but it was italian dressing and that one usually has the lowest carb on it and it had oniond baby tomatoes cottage chees i think and a bit of croutons so i thought maybe 2 units should be fine! but than when i got home I was litterly STARVING so i picked on this home made cake my mom made she did not put a lot of sugar on it because of me it was a small peice and it had about 20 g of carbs than i had a yougurt that had 16g of carbs so ofcourse i had that, than!!!!! my brother and his friend and mybf came over at night to play PS2 and than brought chips so i ate some!!!! about 30g not a lot just picked on it! I went straight to bed caus I knew if i stay i will eat more :S that HARDEST PART was!!! going to my room and put insulin! omgggg I am looking at my self in the ,miror and thinking " ok so if i put these units i am suppose to put now I will gain weight!!! ok no I am not putting any insulin!!!, but no i should or else I will die and become worst of what i think i look like now!..." so yeah i endedup puting the units wanting to cry!!! but the next morning i woke up with a 17.5 BG so I put my units soo upset and right now just ate put my units i saw this small tart cake at the store I ate it!! but i realised that i am getting soo hungry now!!!! its horrible and because of all this junk i ate I am going to do cardio tonight.... pleas tell me anybody am i ganna gain weight by eating all this?
mazea
10-11-2008, 07:03 PM
gumy bears it was soo hard not to have some its 36G of carbs for 23 pieces
I suggest you see a nutritionist as you need to learn carbohydrate counting. (15g carbs =1 unit carb) I checked calorie king CalorieKing - Diet and weight loss. Calorie Counter and more. (http://www.calorieking.com) and another website which says that there are 50.1g carbs in 23 pieces. You had 5 gummybears so you had 10.9 g carbs (or ¾ of a carb).
so i thought maybe 2 units should be fine!
You shouldn’t think. You should know. Write down your insulin and carbohydrate units in that little book they give you.
but I ordered a big plate of beef garden salad that i shared with my brother!
There are things you could do to improve your diet. I have a few suggestion that I implemented in my own diet. do not skip carbohydrate meals. It is good if you had croutons with your salad. I have the equivalent to two pieces of bread in croutons with my salad and meat meals. Meat and salad do not have carbohydrates and adding thecroutons would make a meal contain 2 unit of carbohydrates. Having regular carbohydrate meals at breakfast, lunch and dinner with keep you metabolism stable as your body won’t be constantly going through a starving/ snacking cycle.
when i got home I was litterly STARVING so i picked on this home made cake ….and than brought chips so i ate some!!!!
So when you were starving did you check your blood sugar level and write it down?
I restrict my fat snacks after hypos as carbohydrates uptake into you body at a very slow rate. I have some foods that I can not eat in moderation called chocolate and pizza. Therefore I have totally banned them from my diet. Instead, I eat pizziola from the book Smiply to good to be true and occasionally have 2 Tim Tams for morning tea.
but the next morning i woke up with a 17.5 BG
May I suggest to find out why that happened and write it down. A 8.0 blood level is where the damage starts. 18 is when you can die from high ketones and put you in hospital. Please have the right amount of insulin for your meals.
right now just ate put my units i saw this small tart cake at the store I ate it!!
Nothing wrong with having snacks as long as you have your insulin to cover it.
Maya your picture says a thousand words. Thanks for sharing as it hits home.
HBAC1 May 2008 18 (diagnosed with type 1)lost 8 kg in 2 months.
HBAC1 September 2008 5.5
marchez
10-11-2008, 07:50 PM
Maya,
Everyone deals with stress differently. Some adapt and some are slow adopters. Either way, everyone here has suggested some good techniques to help you balance your control over this manageable disease. You need to apply more discipline over your condition until it becomes second nature.
How is your endo or diabetic support group (nurse and nutritionist) helping you tackle this. You need to get these resources as they are available and there to help you.
Are you testing 2 hours after every bolus? Try testing every hour and carb count if you haven't already been practicing this technique.
You need to focus all this frantic energy into solutions for yourself or you will not see a positive change soon enough.
I suggest going for the pump. I am on one and its absolutely amazing for me! I was exactly like you before and didn't want the obvious sign out there advertsiing that I'm a diabetic. If you have to educate a few curious onlookers, so be it, the pros outweigh the cons hands down. Some times Medtronic sponsors free seminars to help you understand how the pump will turn around the management problem your having.
You need to try and explore everything available to you at this point. Be positive and keep a level head about it.
/Mark
maya0606
10-11-2008, 09:34 PM
I suggest you see a nutritionist as you need to learn carbohydrate counting. (15g carbs =1 unit carb) I checked calorie king CalorieKing - Diet and weight loss. Calorie Counter and more. (http://www.calorieking.com) and another website which says that there are 50.1g carbs in 23 pieces. You had 5 gummybears so you had 10.9 g carbs (or ¾ of a carb).
You shouldn’t think. You should know. Write down your insulin and carbohydrate units in that little book they give you.
There are things you could do to improve your diet. I have a few suggestion that I implemented in my own diet. do not skip carbohydrate meals. It is good if you had croutons with your salad. I have the equivalent to two pieces of bread in croutons with my salad and meat meals. Meat and salad do not have carbohydrates and adding thecroutons would make a meal contain 2 unit of carbohydrates. Having regular carbohydrate meals at breakfast, lunch and dinner with keep you metabolism stable as your body won’t be constantly going through a starving/ snacking cycle.
So when you were starving did you check your blood sugar level and write it down?
I restrict my fat snacks after hypos as carbohydrates uptake into you body at a very slow rate. I have some foods that I can not eat in moderation called chocolate and pizza. Therefore I have totally banned them from my diet. Instead, I eat pizziola from the book Smiply to good to be true and occasionally have 2 Tim Tams for morning tea.
May I suggest to find out why that happened and write it down. A 8.0 blood level is where the damage starts. 18 is when you can die from high ketones and put you in hospital. Please have the right amount of insulin for your meals.
Nothing wrong with having snacks as long as you have your insulin to cover it.
Maya your picture says a thousand words. Thanks for sharing as it hits home.
HBAC1 May 2008 18 (diagnosed with type 1)lost 8 kg in 2 months.
HBAC1 September 2008 5.5
Thanks alot mazea :-)
what pic? and what u mean as it hits homem I did not understand that part lol
maya0606
10-11-2008, 09:37 PM
Maya,
Everyone deals with stress differently. Some adapt and some are slow adopters. Either way, everyone here has suggested some good techniques to help you balance your control over this manageable disease. You need to apply more discipline over your condition until it becomes second nature.
How is your endo or diabetic support group (nurse and nutritionist) helping you tackle this. You need to get these resources as they are available and there to help you.
Are you testing 2 hours after every bolus? Try testing every hour and carb count if you haven't already been practicing this technique.
You need to focus all this frantic energy into solutions for yourself or you will not see a positive change soon enough.
I suggest going for the pump. I am on one and its absolutely amazing for me! I was exactly like you before and didn't want the obvious sign out there advertsiing that I'm a diabetic. If you have to educate a few curious onlookers, so be it, the pros outweigh the cons hands down. Some times Medtronic sponsors free seminars to help you understand how the pump will turn around the management problem your having.
You need to try and explore everything available to you at this point. Be positive and keep a level head about it.
/Mark
But what the difference between teh pump and normal insuline isnt it injecting u by it self? I dot uderstand why i need it so much when i can just do it my self/
ant hill
10-11-2008, 09:46 PM
OMG Maya!!! You are beautiful. :D I see that you are a type 1 for 9 years and there's so much to learn!! Please please understand diabetes as I would love to see that you stay this way in you later life and congrats on your latest achievement's and the splurge on food is rewarding. The best thing that you need to know is the value of food and understand what it can do for you, Also the exercise with things that you like to do. ;)
I see that many others are saying the same thing that I say and I have found that to take your insulin as regular as clockwork!!!
Food will be always be faster to react to your body than insulin will so think ahead on what you about to do. :)
maya0606
10-11-2008, 09:54 PM
OMG Maya!!! You are beautiful. :D I see that you are a type 1 for 9 years and there's so much to learn!! Please please understand diabetes as I would love to see that you stay this way in you later life and congrats on your latest achievement's and the splurge on food is rewarding. The best thing that you need to know is the value of food and understand what it can do for you, Also the exercise with things that you like to do. ;)
I see that many others are saying the same thing that I say and I have found that to take your insulin as regular as clockwork!!!
Food will be always be faster to react to your body than insulin will so think ahead on what you about to do. :)
Hey Thanks a lot :$ hahaha see thats my problem I dont see my self as beautiful, but i know I sure have to do all this :S but I am tryint my best day by day I am going to see a counselt on friday and my dietision :-) so cant wait
ant hill
10-11-2008, 10:17 PM
Hey that's the go Maya :D, I too going to do the course and understand carb counting and match it with the short acting insulin. This would be a good trip to understand to balance food. :T
mazea
10-12-2008, 01:26 AM
Oh my mistake. I saw melody's picture below your name. Melody I meant to tell you your photo really hit home. It inspires me and I think it was wonderful and brave you shared it.
That's great about you going to see the dietician on Friday Maya!
UpNorth
10-12-2008, 02:34 AM
It's really good you'll get the help you need! You're definitely having problems that needs to be dealt with ASAP unless you want to end up in that dialysis chair, or go blind. If you want to lose weight, get to know yourself and your needs better! Eat right, take the insulin you need and exercise. I'm T1 and quite litterally FAT, if it wasn't for my very high fasting sugar and how fast it had come, I think the doctors would have put me into the T2 box when I was diagnosed simply because of my size. Since my diagnose I have managed to lose some weight, or actually, everyone says it looks like I've dropped like a stone and wonders if I really do take care of myself. Dare say they go quiet when I tell them my latest A1c (currently in the mid 5's). All I've done is to eat more healthy, exercise more and not overdo my insulin so I usually don't need to snack in between meals. But I take my insulin as I'm supposed to. My meter average is currently 6.2 and I test about 10-12 times per day.
So what I really want to say is. Get to know yourself, and have patience! Losing weight doesn't come over a night if doing it the RIGHT way. Doing it by running high is so not worth it because it both makes you feel horrible to have those highs, and increase the risk of long term complications!
maya0606
10-16-2008, 02:13 PM
Hi Evryone!! so I went to see a counsellor today she talked to me i cried so much !! and i also spoek to my nutritionist so this is basicaly my meals
morning
Protein
15 carbs
AM snack
15G carbs
protein
Lunch
15g carbs
protein
veggies ( 1 cup)
PM Snack:
15 carbs
protein
Dinner
15g
protein
veggies ( 1 cup)
Snack: if after a work out a fruit if without work out some veggies of protein like cottage cheese
so this is it!!
now I hope I wont gain any weight
p.s this meal is included 5 times a week of 30 min cardio every morning or after noon
what u guys think?
drummingfool
10-16-2008, 02:23 PM
Look! Look! A PLAN!!!
Awesome, Maya... I'm glad you went through with all of this and got the information you need.
I think this is pretty reasonable. Not only will it help you steadify (is that a word?) your weight, but even lose it if you think you need to.
Make sure to keep on it, Maya... this forum is full of beautiful, wonderful people who are here to help, myself included!! :D:D
maya0606
10-16-2008, 02:29 PM
hahah Thanks a lot Drummingfool, If i get confused or stressed your are teh first one to BUG hahahahahah
cause I know I am going to have moments of depression
Oh oh oh!! also i can have once a week or 1 every two weeks as a cheat day, like fi i want a cake ill have it and ofcourse put insulin THATS GANNA BE HARD but I ll make sure I do :-) I wannnaa live longggg so gotta be strong ! ;)
lorilei
10-16-2008, 02:35 PM
Hi Maya,
I sincerely hope that you are following up on the eating disorder claim as well...have been there and done that...and your entries read like a text book. It is also very addicting, and like diabetes, hard to escape as we constantly need to eat and are surrounded by food situations all the time. Please, please , please get help for this.
mazea
10-16-2008, 02:43 PM
It must be good to have a plan Maya. Congratulations of going to see the nutritionist. You can always go back there too if you need to.
drummingfool
10-16-2008, 02:50 PM
lol I'll be your shoulder to cry on or person to bug, no problem. :)
It's nice to be able to talk to someone who's been there. And I have... very recently.
And I can tell you, control feels a heck of alot better.
maya0606
10-16-2008, 02:57 PM
ohhhh yeah i do feel better today is my first day after trying to kill my self by not controling it :) it does feel good
-sammy-
10-16-2008, 03:49 PM
dont worry.
im going through this aswel.
the other day i had ketones of 5.0.
yeh its very nasty.
and it does make you lose weight.
but your also killing yourself.
i am trying to do it right but its so hard :(
i hope that you will be ok. good luck. x
maya0606
10-16-2008, 04:03 PM
dont worry.
im going through this aswel.
the other day i had ketones of 5.0.
yeh its very nasty.
and it does make you lose weight.
but your also killing yourself.
i am trying to do it right but its so hard :(
i hope that you will be ok. good luck. x
Sammy i hope u will be ok too... I did my keytomes too mine was 0.3 so i am actually ok for now? what did ur doctor say when he saw it was 5.0? :O
ant hill
10-17-2008, 05:11 AM
Hey Maya, It good to see that you're are on to a better life and happier too. :D
The thing is the long hual and this is where you need us to help you, Guide you in the right path. :D:biggrin::D
maya0606
10-17-2008, 09:03 PM
yahhh i am happy now :-)
but yesterday something weird happened i had my dinner
it was steamed veggies with chiken and slice of bread had 2 units
later at night around 10 pm or 11 it was 20.5 :O I was shooooked I dont know how it went sooo high!! I put 1 unit for 10 carbs so i put only 10 units of insulin to cover that high blood sugar its suppose to be 12 but I did not want to have a low sugar in the middle of the night ..... BUT at 3 AM i wake up cause i had low sugar it was 3.2 something around that so i had a peach but u know when your sugar is sooo low you get SOOOOO HUNGRY i had another peach and couple of pretzels i was telling my self " omggggg my sugar is going to be high tomorrow morning" I was expecting it at 13 or 15 at least! i put my alarm at 8 am so I could do cardio first thing in the morning, but I was soo tired so slept till 9 am but when i woke up i was soo worried to find my BS high but guess what? it was 6.1!! I WAS SHOKED once again, that means if I had one peach instead of two i would have another LOw BS!!!! the whole day my sugar was perfect!!!! today the highest i got was 9.7 and what i did was i had some veggies and turckey sticks with slice f bread and HIT THe CARDIO for 30 min I just did my blood sugar now its at 6.8!! YAY!!! never felt better hehe!!! so tomorrow I am waking up at 8 AM to do 30 min cardio I a actually eating less carbs tomorrow during the day, because its my bday party we all going bowling and we all going to be drinking and eating so i want to leave my insulin intake for later at night :D is that a good idea everyone? I just hope I dont get any highs during the day, because sometimes I do get highs when I dont even eat any carbs WEIRDDDD!!!! i am telling you my body is very weiiiiirddddddddddddddddddd lol I am going to Paris on Sunday for 3 days just for my bday I arrive on monday afternoon there the day of my bday yaay hehe I just hope I will be strong enough to select good food, or should I eat some junk for those three days because I AM ON VACATION? lol
I need you guys suggestions plllzzzzzzzz :-)
Thank you!!!
Have a great weekend everyone!!
ant hill
10-17-2008, 09:53 PM
Aww Maya, You're learning and love your attitude, :D A Birthday helps heaps and Paris, Oh I would love to get lost in there. :o Take a well charged camera with you and enjoy your fun you lucky thing. :T
Can I come with you to Paris? ;)
maya0606
10-17-2008, 09:55 PM
hahahah thanks a lot!!! and yes you can come if you want ill make sure to put u in my suitcase lol heheheeh
ant hill
10-18-2008, 12:02 AM
Aww Maya, I am a tad to big & heavy and I think that you cannot afford me to join you in your adventure in Gay Parie. But even if we did, We would have DF talking!! LOL :T
davef
10-18-2008, 02:18 AM
Maya,
Enjoy Paris, I love it autumn, take stroll throught the tuillerie gardens. There's plenty to eat that will suit you. I'll be there the week after you, but just for a day on business.
-sammy-
10-19-2008, 03:07 PM
they dont know about the ketones yet maya. they will next week tho i have an appointment but i have to go to the joint diabetic/ renal clinic. ijusthope theres nothing wrong with my kidneys
i hopeyouhave a great time inparis xx
drummingfool
10-19-2008, 04:20 PM
Oh! Oh! I wanna go to Paris!!! :)
I'm proud of you, Maya! You're learning and keeping with the plan, and trust me... if you stick to it, your results will be even better.
Stick in there!
starrdbes
10-19-2008, 05:17 PM
Maya,
It sounds like you have a serious body image problem, which is behind this poor control. You may not realise it, but restricting insulin is probably doing your weight management efforts more harm than good. The issue really is that insulin doesn't make you gain weight. Calories in the food you eat do that. So if you reduce food consumption to match your calorie usage, your weight will be stable. But your insulin usage also needs to be appropriate.
The problem with allowing blood glucose to go too high is that it makes you insulin resistant. As you have discovered, massive amounts of insulin are required to bring blood sugar down again. Because your body is denied the nutrition it needs, it uses available calories more efficiently. Because your body is hanging onto every calorie, you will pick up weight more easily. This is how poor control leads to weight gain.
You will find weight much easier to control when you use enough insulin to maintain stable blood glucose in the target range (80-140), and you focus weight management on controlling calories. Because insulin resistance is lower, you are able to use a lot less insulin. So you don't pick up weight as easily.
Could not have said it better myself, you're absolutely right BlueSky!
maya0606
10-30-2008, 08:53 AM
OMG !!! I am getting soo upset!!
so I am doign great wieth my sugar but this is whats happenning and I do not get it at ALL!!
I woke up this morning at 9:30 h ( not the first time happening) and my blood sugar was 3.7 so I had 3 eggs and one cheese croissant and I put 2 units of insuline at 11:30 gues what my sugar was at!!!???? 15.7!!! grrrrrrrrrr HOW!!!!! could it go so high!!! I use to eat more carbs before and it would never go that high!!!! grrr i am soo mad i had to put 8 units to cover the HBS and 2 units for having plane yourgurt and smal portion of peacans!
davef
10-30-2008, 09:46 AM
Maya,
I'm a T2 so what I have experienced my not have any correlation to a T1, but for what it's worth, I have found that I need to be really careful when treating a low of around 3.7 as I get (what I call) a reactive high if I'm not careful. I think what happens is that my body is already reacting to the low and my liver dumping when I add my correction it results in a high.
I'd say what did it was the croissant, lovely things but I'd suspect they are sky high in carbs.
maya0606
10-30-2008, 09:48 AM
but it was a small croissant!, and i put the units for it, why would it go high??? :(
davef
10-30-2008, 09:50 AM
Now that I really can't answer, as I'm don't know a whole pile about insulin. I' assuming you retested when you saw the high?
I tested last night 3 hours PP and got a 7.9, I knew it had to be wrong based on what I had eaten. So I scrubbed my hands and retested, go 6.1 which was what I reckoned it should be.
maya0606
10-30-2008, 09:59 AM
I really dont get it this is confusing it makes me wanna give up
mazea
10-30-2008, 03:04 PM
Like you, I have 2 units of insulin for a croissant but I'm on a honeymoon which means that I don't take much insulin at all and my carb ratio is 2:1. There is approximately 26g carbohydrates in a croissant. It sound to me like you need to find out your insulin to carb ratio with the nutritionist Maya and use it. Did the nutritonist teach you how to calculate your insulin to carb ratio? If not, I would go back.
maya0606
10-30-2008, 03:10 PM
ohhhh now i know why i thought it was only 20 carbs my inculine intake is 1 unit for each 10 carbs.... now whats honeymoon? i seen a lot of ppl saying that lol
ant hill
10-30-2008, 04:33 PM
OMG !!! I am getting soo upset!!
so I am doign great wieth my sugar but this is whats happenning and I do not get it at ALL!!
Aww Maya. :(
I woke up this morning at 9:30 h ( not the first time happening) and my blood sugar was 3.7 so I had 3 eggs and one cheese croissant and I put 2 units of insuline at 11:30 gues what my sugar was at!!!???? 15.7!!! grrrrrrrrrr HOW!!!!! could it go so high!!!
Maya, There is a pehnonomon called a liver dump and that's normaly in the morning so I can easyly say that your BG of 3.7 / 66.6 as soon that you are awayke. Am I right??
Cheese Croissant YUM!!!!! I wish that I was in France. :bawling:
I'd say what did it was the croissant, lovely things but I'd suspect they are sky high in carbs.
Ahh yes Dave :), But for being a small portion and low to start with you can afford to splash out on your favourite carb.
Say that we about to have lunch and see a BG of 3 / 54 I would bolus and eat immediately!!! and nothing to hold you up!!
I really dont get it this is confusing it makes me wanna give up
Aww Maya, We get this from time to time, Even for me with 37 years of this tripe and you think that you have the short and cerlys over it, But not to be. :( so yea. :o
now whats honeymoon? i seen a lot of ppl saying that lol
A Honeymoon is a pancrease as had a rest with external insulin that we take so with that your pancrease starts to work again and from each person is in different times. ;)
Lizzie G
10-31-2008, 01:41 AM
Maya, there are two things to remember about insulin and weight gain.
The first is that your body needs a certain amount of insulin to survive. That is your basal insulin. Usually a slow acting insulin, like Glargine (Lantus) is used for basal. BASAL INSULIN WILL NOT CAUSE WEIGHT GAIN. It just keeps you alive.
The second is bolus insulin, the type you use when you eat something. If you very little bolus insulin YOU WILL NOT GAIN WEIGHT. There are two ways to do this: a) eat all protein and fat and no more than a cup of salad greens a day. b) get at least 30 minutes of exercise per day. If you keep your carbs under 30-40 per day (everything has at least a tiny bit of carb--get the Calorie King book) that would be 3.5 or 4.5 units of bolus insulin.
Follow this and you will not gain weight and you will have normal blood sugars and you will not be killing yourself. You may find as I do that you like eating low carb. You have a lot of living ahead of you. Don't miss it.
With a big hug,
Mich
I read Mich's post and smiled in agreement to everything he said. When I first found out I was diabetic and started taking insulin I gained about 5 pounds right away and was freaked. However, this is what happens when you have been out of control and you are suddenly in control. It settles. Your body is panicked right now and and its grabbing any nutrients it can get. Please try to stop being frightened. Get your levels to normal IGNORING any weight gain, and when you are stable as mich says there are many ways to have great control and get/stay slim. Doing a lot of exercise is my personal choice and enables me to eat plenty, well lots in fact, maintain a steady weight and a good HbA1c. I also find exercising helps me feel better about my body even if i gain a few pounds - this is the most important thing to me as like you I can have a really poor self image, even when other people say i look good...work from the inside out...
Maya im so worried about you sweetie, what you are doing could cause all sorts of problems, please try and shift your focus away from your weight until your diabetes is under control. 10 pounds can be lost, but if you lose your eyesight (no im not scaremongering this DOES happen to girls your age with poor control) you cannot get it back, ever. please please please look after yourself, we are all thinking of you and here to support you and help you in whatever way we can
Liz xxx
danieljburrispa
10-31-2008, 10:23 PM
"when i fell into a diabetic coma in 99, it was a horrible way to go... you throw up constantly, you're so thirsty you could drink anything (i drank warm bath water i was so thirsty) and you're tired tired tired... then your body does what it wants to, it turns your blood into sugar crystals... and i don't remember a thing from sunday morning until tuesday night... i'm not saying it wasn't painful, because it was... the recovery was painful and the days leading up to the coma was painful... when i say throwing up constantly, i mean i barfed every 10 - 15 minutes..."
I went through this same ordeal without the coma. DKA. I was very sick for a week and by the time I went to the hospital with 480 blood sugars and pancreatitis and diverticulosis I was in severe pain and dehydration. 10 days in recovery, 5 of those on a morphine drip ( not morphine but equivelant )
Maya, I looked at your profile and you are a very pretty girl, get your diabetes under control and go get into a good relationship with someone who will love and support you and have a wonderful life, after you finish school of course.
mazea
11-01-2008, 03:11 AM
Hi Maya,
It happens to us all that we mistake the amount of insulin to take. Yesterday I had a hypo of 2.2mg/dl after taking too much insulin for 3 carbs. Silly me. I made a mistake. I usually don't have hypos.
I started out managing my diabetes by simplyfing the management. I kept it REALLY SIMPLE so it didn't overwhelm me. I simplified the management of my new beloved type 1 diabetes scientific experiment by taking the same amount of carbs for for breakfast lunch and dinner for the first 4 months. I took 2 units of carbs( 15g carbs) for each meal. I wrote down my blood sugar levels before meals and 2 hours after meals. It is important to have the accurate data if you are going to analyse it and come to conclusions.
The first thing to do is make sure you are taking the correct amount of basal. And none of that NPH which was all over the place was good for me. If I can get the basal right, I can work on everything else with success. A simple basal test I do is an overnight test where I test my blood sugar before bed and immediately on getting up. To do this test I eat a dinner under 45g carbs as anything over tends to digest over 5 hours for me. I take my last insulin 3 hours before going to bed. If I am going to have a snack I eat the snack 1 hour before I test my blood sugar levels. The level is usually about 6.5. I then go to bed. When I When I get up in the morning, first thing I do is check my blood sugar level and it could be for example approimately 6.5 Your basal is correct if it is the same when you wake up as when you go to sleep. If not, I adjust it down or up. I even adjust mine to a quarter of a unit so it is right.
Something that helps me know how much insulin to take and how many carbs to eat is carb counting. I learnt this from my nutritionist. To carb count, I divide my meals up into 15g units of carbohydrates and I call that 1 unit. Then I worked out for each 15g carbohydrates I needed to take 2 1/2 units. It makes things SIMPLE.
Then after managing this stuff well for a few months, my nutrionist taught me how to do my insulin to carb ratio. Which is for 15g of carbs,(10g in your case it seems as you said 10g) how much insulin do I need? I need 2 1/2 units.
I have then started eating more than 2 carbs recently, and writing my blood sugar levels down before and after meals still. I have come to realise that the more carbs I eat the lower my carb: insulin ration becomes. So I use a sliding carb ratio scale(my inventiion probably stupid) where for the first 2 units carbs for lunch I have 2 1/4 units of insulin and then I have 1 1/2 units carbs extra for each carb after that.
Then, because you have been good and taken your insulin lately I will let you know one of my cheats. But I'm on a honeymoon which is where your pancreas is producing good levels of basal insulin, for a few months after starting insulin, so I wouldn't recommend this cheat without consulting your nutrionist.
Cheat: I use this cheat because I like having snacks in the day between meals without having insulin. So I find I individually can do this and don't know if it is able to be done by everyone. If I increase my basal so it drops 1 point over night and take a bit extra insulin at meals and have a snack at the 2 hour point.
Cheat: Sometimes I like to eat a 75g carb meal once a week like the good old days. I notice if I have anything over 75g carbs at the one time, I am still digesting it/ having my blood sugar levels rising for the next 24 hours, So I divide my novorapid into 2 doses one on eating and one 2 hours after eating so I have 6 hours of coverage.
mazea
11-01-2008, 03:41 AM
I'd like to edit the first comment and say that I still take my long acting insulin at the same time each day, 8.30. It doesn't matter if it is an hour before bed or not.
I try to keep my blood sugar levels between 4.5 and 8.5 mg/dl (108-153) and make sure my blood sugar is below 8 before I go to bed. My last HBAC1 was 5.6
Good luck!
ant hill
11-01-2008, 04:34 AM
Mazea, You have touched the magic word "Basel insulin" Learn this Maya and you will slow down the see saw of BG's that you are now experiencing.
jerryn
11-01-2008, 07:02 AM
Maya,
Don't give up on yourself! Give up on your endocrinologist and find a better one! Man! I know if my A1C was going up my doc would schedule more visits more frequently, start me on a new med and watch me closely. Maya, your whole life is ahead of you! You can get your glucose under control! 12.5 .. sure it's high, but you will find the right Dr that will help you get it under control. My A1C was 11.8 at one time.. basically with the accuracy of the test that's pretty much where you are now. You can do this! Hang in there! Don't give up!
As your doc about an insulin pump!
jerryn
11-01-2008, 07:28 AM
Honestly its easy to say but at the end when i see my self bigger i get soo depressed too anyway.... so both ways i am depressed i am unhappy either way!!!... if my sugar is soo high i am tired i came to a point where i did barf, i was doing really good that before my A1C was 14.2 and put it down to 8.2 and now i went up to 12.5 BECAUSE when i went back home on vacation most of my family were like " OMG MAYA YOU GAINED SO MUCH WEIGHT" and that just got me soo depressed so i stopped controlling it when i was there for the whole summer which was 6 weeks and i just kept on going because when i lost 15lbs people from school and work were all like waw you look good and now i have this big fear of gaining and looking FAT AGAIN.... its horrible i know!! I know what could happened to me but i just cant help it.... like this morning my sugar was i think 25.4 and i did not put insulin i had 3 eggs and one boston cream donut large coffe(no sugar) and one croissant and now i am feeling sick of course!
Maya,
Man when I read this post I got upset. First of all.. forget about weight for a moment. Your a beautful girl!
Your first goal should be to get the T1 under control. A pump will really help. You are going to need to eat like a T2 (I'm T2... possibly T1.5). This means eat low carbs and excercise! It will take you about 6 months to get your A1C down but you can do this! Don't be afraid of the insulin, you need this right now. You can always goof on your family if they mention the weight thing again... I know what my sister would say. She'd say "I'm pregnant, alright!".
So, don't worry. Buy some Kaschi frozen dinner for meals while you are at work. They are low carb and have helped me keep my glucose down. For dinner at home eat like salmon and brocolli No noodles or bread. Eat a ribeye steak and brocolli. I've also found eating beef on the rare side helps my glucose. I don't know how safe it is but I was amazed at my glucose results 2hrs after I ate.
Are you Italian? Pourtugese? I'm French, Italian, and Portugese. You know what this means when you eat meals at big family get togethers? Bread.. lots of good bread. But I stay away from it.. Once in a great while I'd have a portugese roll, but I'd pay for it after with a really bad sugar buzz and a high glucose reading two hours after I eat. I'd got for a walk afterward to drop the levels but it would still be on the high side. So I do not do this often at all.
So, pretend that you have some kind of wheat allergy, that's what I try to do. It helps.
Google "Glycemic Index" and print it out. This will help you eat low carb. I think combining the insulin and eating low carb this will help you.
Good Luck!
shiftzor
11-01-2008, 08:24 AM
You need some accountability for your blood glucose level. It is not just a number there are serious implications for people with those kinds of A1cs and don't take it from me you only have to look at the research. If you stop taking insulin to lose weight your body begins to break down muscle and other parts of the body to keep you alive. This leads to a condition called Diabetic ketoacidosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_ketoacidosis) which is a slow and painful death. If you are really worried about weight and blood glucose level I recommend the following:
Take control, write down all of your blood sugar level readings and at the end of each week highlight all the highs/lows. Then show your doctor next time you see him/her or your family that way you get some accountability for your results and support. First thing to do is to understand basal insulin, as it keeps your body going throughout the day and night. To test that your basal insulin is correct skip breakfast and test every hour. Waking up at 3am to test is good way to see if you are dropping in the night. Adjust your insulin dose accordingly. Once this is good start to understand carb counting and insulin to carb ratios. Testing pre meal and 2/3/6 hours after a meal will help you adjust these until they are right.
It sounds like hard work but I can't tell you how better you will feel once you have formed these good habits. You can align your carb intake to match your activity level and the amount of weight you want to lose. If I can lose weight doing it then anyone can :D.
Books:
using insulin by john welsh
think like a pancreas - practical guide to managing diabetes with insulin by gary scheiner
Websites:
Guide to diabetes - Diabetes UK (http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-diabetes/)
Diabetes Monitor - standard deviation buzz (http://www.diabetesmonitor.com/m57.htm)
Carb Counting 101 (http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_food_diet/carb_counting.php)
maya0606
11-01-2008, 08:34 AM
Hi everyone thansk sooo much for your support, i been doing pretty good for the past week doing cardio 5 times a week for 30 mins and little weights i take my days off on the weekend and i have one cheat day!! so Its been a week and i feel like i gained.... i know its not the case but its just in my head :S but i gotta be stronger and I think i can do it! every time i feel like i ate to much fat or carbs i hit the cardio for example my little brother had candies last night for Halloween i picked on them a bit i felt bad i hit the cardio right away my sugar was good it 8.7 after cardio but after i went out with my friend and went to have a grilled chicken salad i put 2 units of insulin, but guess what? next morning my sugar was 15!!!!!! i just dont get it!!! but I corrected it even tho it was hard for me cause for me MORE INSULIN intake= MORE WEIGHT GAIN!!! :( soo stressed lately and emotional too :(
its weekend and i think i might be doing cardio again tonight cause id feel better about my self. I am eating pretty healthy!
morning 3 eggs and 15 carbs
snack plane yogurt with 10 g of peacan
lunch raw veggies (brocoli, baby carrots, green pepper, baby tomatos) with dip and 10g of carbs with tuna can that has only 2 g of carbs
snack tuna snack 17g of carbs. I dont knwo fi you guys seen this before it comes with 6 crackers and a small can of tune its soo good too and low in carbs:-)
than dinner raw veggies again with 15g of carbs and tuna or any other protein
and i eat more carbs before cardio so i wont drop later on
put 16 units of lantus and if i get hungry i eat veggies again with a dip
woudl i gain weight like this?
my A1C is at 12.5 I hope by xmas it would be at 10 at least
jerryn
11-01-2008, 04:36 PM
Hey, good job. Keep up the cardio! No more high carb stuff ok? I picked on some peanut butter cups last night. I only had two of them and I paid the price. My glucose was high.. I went for a walk, worked out, still I couldn't get drop below 180. A better snack might be low carb peanut butter (I think smucker's natural is ok) and a bananna.
Regarding the grilled chicken salad. I would bet that the restraunt you went to puts sugar in their salad dressing. I went to Panera Bread for lunch with some friends from work. I got a chicken salad for lunch thinking I was doing the right thing, my glucose was 240 when I got home 5hrs later! I knew the dressing tasted too good!
I would stay away from veggie dip. Have you tried nuts?
maya0606
11-02-2008, 10:37 AM
Hey, good job. Keep up the cardio! No more high carb stuff ok? I picked on some peanut butter cups last night. I only had two of them and I paid the price. My glucose was high.. I went for a walk, worked out, still I couldn't get drop below 180. A better snack might be low carb peanut butter (I think smucker's natural is ok) and a bananna.
Regarding the grilled chicken salad. I would bet that the restraunt you went to puts sugar in their salad dressing. I went to Panera Bread for lunch with some friends from work. I got a chicken salad for lunch thinking I was doing the right thing, my glucose was 240 when I got home 5hrs later! I knew the dressing tasted too good!
I would stay away from veggie dip. Have you tried nuts?
yeah i have i eat a lot of them atually , i sometimes put it in my plane yogurt, but this weekend i did badddddddddddd lilke really bad!!!!!!! lol i couldnt help if i am on my time of the month i was craving salty stuff and sweeesss so i had bunch of chips at a friends house and peanut butter m&ms lol i know i know my sugar was 26 but i am fine i put insulin i am doing mu cardio tomorrow for sure and the whole week to burn it off.... but this wekend i wont i am soo tired and back pain to cuz of my periods lol
shiftzor
11-02-2008, 11:25 AM
yeah i have i eat a lot of them atually , i sometimes put it in my plane yogurt, but this weekend i did badddddddddddd lilke really bad!!!!!!! lol i couldnt help if i am on my time of the month i was craving salty stuff and sweeesss so i had bunch of chips at a friends house and peanut butter m&ms lol i know i know my sugar was 26 but i am fine i put insulin i am doing mu cardio tomorrow for sure and the whole week to burn it off.... but this wekend i wont i am soo tired and back pain to cuz of my periods lol
These bad things should be included in your diet plan otherwise you will get the cravings and end up bringing. A healthy diet = little bit of everything including the green stuff and bad stuff. Even so we all binge from time to time no matter how hard we try not too, don't feel bad about it. Just keep posting and asking questions, you will do fine.
maya0606
11-02-2008, 01:48 PM
These bad things should be included in your diet plan otherwise you will get the cravings and end up bringing. A healthy diet = little bit of everything including the green stuff and bad stuff. Even so we all binge from time to time no matter how hard we try not too, don't feel bad about it. Just keep posting and asking questions, you will do fine.
ohhh thankssss ur making me feelll so much better
yeah well right now I am at 130lbs 5'2-3 and i feel FATomg its just horribe!!! but anyway thanks a lot everyone i will do my best for sure
There are more important things than body type;
Your height/weight sound fine to me.
Just my opinion...
jerryn
11-04-2008, 04:50 PM
yeah well right now I am at 130lbs 5'2-3 and i feel FATomg its just horribe!!! but anyway thanks a lot everyone i will do my best for sure
Maya... 5'2 no big deal, your only 20lbs over. So set a goal to loose 5lbs. The ideal weight is always lighter than you want anyway. I'm 5'11" and my ideal weigh is supposedly 172lbs...man I haven't weighed 180 since college! Just set a realistic goal. Stay away from the dognuts though.
Heck I bet you can loose 15lbs just by working out every day.
maya0606
11-06-2008, 07:44 AM
hey everyone so i am still living the healthy life i am doing great still eating maxium 100g of carbs 16 units of lantus at night 3o min cardio after dinner (elliptical) and my sugars are AWESOME!!!! i feel soo thin too i dont feel fat, i was suppose to go see my dietision today at 8:30 in the morning but I was sooooo tired i did not go hahaha I couldnt wake up.. I know I know bad bad bad girl!! hahaha. I been eating a lot of raw broccoli i like them with dipping umm sooo gooddd and also whole pickels with garlic umm soo good ive been also eating a lot of flavourd tunas so yumi! and have whole wheet bread :-)
daisycolors
11-06-2008, 11:18 AM
Maya, please take care of yourself. :)
Have you ever considered a raw diet with proper ph water? I can make most any vegetable taste good with seasonings. Kale would have never touched my lips and then, I found a way to make is taste delicious.
I have learned that when you are craving sugar what your body actually needs is salt (not table salt, but sea salt). You can grab for salt and water instead of sugar.
You really don't need to lose weight, just get your body balanced by proper hydration and proper nutrition. If you are willing to eat living foods you will see a quick improvement.
harryjacobs
11-06-2008, 11:35 AM
Interesting as I read through your comment about your pump, and advertising that you are Diabetic. There is no Shame what so ever in being diabetic. While I am T2 and can’t fathom what it is like to have to take insulin I do know that you should not be embarrassed by that that fact.
Have you considered being outspoken about diabetes? Have you considered talking to others that are going through what you are, and being a role model for them? Nothing more motivating that having other people look to you as a model Diabetic Citizen, who takes their diet, exercise and life style seriously.
Even as a type 2 diabetic, I am outspoken about diabetes. I encourage people to work towards a healthier life style. Even at work now, people are string to bring in Fruit instead of cookies. When they celebrate birthdays they bring in Sugarless Ice Cream. Also they now consider salad as a norm when they also have the dreaded Pizza meeting.
Think of you self as an educator, a person who can get out that just because you are diabetic you are not different. You just have different choices daily. Think about if you could just influence one person to make a healthier choice based on the fact that they are motivated to do what is right.
It is not easy making those right choices every day, when the world around you is geared to those who live in excess. Let’s face it with up to 30% of the North American populate either diagnosed on undiagnosed with diabetes we can make a difference in somebody’s life.
notme
11-06-2008, 06:18 PM
This thread has no continuity anymore as the original subject has long been discussed and ended. I am locking this thread.
Please start new threads for new subjects.
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