Rum = 0 grams of carb?

[bel4_20]

How is it that rum has no carbs in it I thought rum was made frome suger cane? correct me if im wrong but it is sweet tasting? anyone know the story behind this?

[nantomsuethom]

according to our book "The Doctor's Pocket Calorie, Fat & Carbohydrate Counter" rum has no carbs

[MarkMunday]

How is it that rum has no carbs in it I thought rum was made frome suger cane?

Sugar, in some form, is used to make all alcoholic drinks. But during the fermentation process, the sugar is turned into alcohol and CO2. Which is why most spirits are dry and contain no carbs.

I make homebrew beer. I let all the carbs ferment out. And the finished product doesn't affect my blood sugars at all.

Cheers, :1eye:

Mark

[Lynne]

This good news, I could use a drink after 8 weeks of being a good girl:

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/entertainment/columnists/wade_tatangelo/8997320.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

[MegaGirl42]

So, could I drink Rum and Diet Soda? Is that ok or would it likely effect my Sugar Levels... What about other alcohol? I've got Gin, Rum and Vodka. Do I have to drink it with a meal?

[Harold]

So, could I drink Rum and Diet Soda? Is that ok or would it likely effect my Sugar Levels... What about other alcohol? I've got Gin, Rum and Vodka.
Yes, Maybe, and how's your liver? When you drink alcohol your liver stops what it's doing and processes the alcohol first. Which means it does not make, store or release glucose untill it finishes with the alcohol. Although there are no carbs in alcohol there are calories and should be taken into consideration if your trying to lose weight. Not a good idea to drink alcohol if your bg's are high or taking most of the oral meds for diabetes. :eek:

[nomorecarbs]

I particularly like a glass or two of red wine. I control my blood sugars on a low carb diet and exercise. For those taking medications, care does need to be taken, as because of the liver paralysis alluded to earlier, hypoglycemia could occur.

[ramack]

I make homebrew beer. I let all the carbs ferment out. And the finished product doesn't affect my blood sugars at all.

Cheers, :1eye:

Mark

Really, no carbs? How would you classify your beer as far as color and taste? I love dark beers, but have switched to Mich's Ultra light because of the low carbs. Is it possible to brew dark beer that is low carb? Or am I mistaken that dark beers are higher in carb?

Rich

[Barb]

I love Rum and afer all these years I have been saying a way from the stuff and I could have been drinking up a storm Geesh...I have a lot of drinking to make up for :D

[MarkMunday]

Really, no carbs? How would you classify your beer as far as color and taste? I love dark beers, but have switched to Mich's Ultra light because of the low carbs. Is it possible to brew dark beer that is low carb? Or am I mistaken that dark beers are higher in carb?

Rich
Rich,

Dark beers tend to contain more carbs. Have a look at the list at

http://www.beer100.com/beercalories.htm

Mich's Ultra Light looks like a good choice. I didn't realise before looking at this list how big the variance in carb content is. And I can see why some people get fat from drinking beer. Producers should be required to disclose carb content on the bottle.

Light ales and Lagers, which is my preference, have fewer carbs. When I brew my own, I don't add any sugar either. So The beer is both low alcohol and low carb.

Cheers,

Mark ;)

[medic1945]

How is it that rum has no carbs in it I thought rum was made frome suger cane? correct me if im wrong but it is sweet tasting? anyone know the story behind this?

What have you learned from your inquiry? I seek the same information.

[seacomp]

Alcohol fermentation converts sugar into alcohol; that's what that type of fermentation is (there are many ferments besides sugar >> alcohol). When there is complete fermentation there is no (perhaps a trace of) sugar in the final product, i.e., a dry wine. A sweet wne has been incompletely fermented so sugar remains (or is added after fermentation). A beer or ale has carbs not from the sugar in the fermenting mash, but from the non-sugar carbs there.
Other fermentations, such as milk >> cheese, also covert a carb/sugar (lactose) to a non-carb product.

[sugarfree76]

Rich,

Dark beers tend to contain more carbs. Have a look at the list at

http://www.beer100.com/beercalories.htm

Mich's Ultra Light looks like a good choice. I didn't realise before looking at this list how big the variance in carb content is. And I can see why some people get fat from drinking beer. Producers should be required to disclose carb content on the bottle.

Light ales and Lagers, which is my preference, have fewer carbs. When I brew my own, I don't add any sugar either. So The beer is both low alcohol and low carb.

Cheers,

Mark ;)
you brew your own? I'll be a judge! lol

Sammy Adams has 18g per longneck...interesting. I was bolusing like it had 12 per. After a while, they all add up :hello:

[4519]

Alcohol in small amounts is not really harmful, unless you have other problems besides diabetes like liver damage. The liver does stop working normal which allows your blood sugar to lower - not rise. I cannot say that it lowers it in all cases - that would be the difference in type 1 and type 2's, you would think.

[Roy Gardiner]

Yes, Maybe, and how's your liver? When you drink alcohol your liver stops what it's doing and processes the alcohol first. Which means it does not make, store or release glucose untill it finishes with the alcohol. Although there are no carbs in alcohol there are calories and should be taken into consideration if your trying to lose weight. Not a good idea to drink alcohol if your bg's are high or taking most of the oral meds for diabetes. :eek: The big font bit is not justified by the rest of your post, or by anything I can find. The implication of the earlier part of your post is indeed to the contrary, that (for a type 2 anyway) to ensure low BGs one should be continuously on the booze :).

Booze of course has different health implications and we mustn't overdo it, but as far as I can find out it is not contra-indicated for diabetics especially. Thank the Lord :).

It does say on the packets of Metformin I have that alcohol is forbidden, which I hadn't realised (and the practice nurse hadn't told me either, shame on her we discussed the drink!). This now quadruples my resolve to be med free!

Yesterday I drank no alcohol (I normally have wine with my dinner and a bottle of beer afterwards) and my morning fasting BG was higher than usual. It was not conclusive as yesterday I, unusually, did no exercise either.

[4519]

Metformin usually say avoid "excessive alcohol."

[Roy Gardiner]

Metformin usually say avoid "excessive alcohol." It says "You should not drink alcohol whilst you are being treated with Metformin Tablets".

But I like yours better :).

[Harold]

The big font bit is not justified by the rest of your post, or by anything I can find. The implication of the earlier part of your post is indeed to the contrary, that (for a type 2 anyway) to ensure low BGs one should be continuously on the booze :).

Booze of course has different health implications and we mustn't overdo it, but as far as I can find out it is not contra-indicated for diabetics especially. Thank the Lord :).

It does say on the packets of Metformin I have that alcohol is forbidden, which I hadn't realised (and the practice nurse hadn't told me either, shame on her we discussed the drink!). This now quadruples my resolve to be med free!

Yesterday I drank no alcohol (I normally have wine with my dinner and a bottle of beer afterwards) and my morning fasting BG was higher than usual. It was not conclusive as yesterday I, unusually, did no exercise either.
Thank You, your right! That was 5 months ago and am having a hard time remembering what I was trying to get across. I do remember not being satisfied with that sentence. Think it was the four drinks I had earlier. It should have been something like this. Not a good idea to drink alcohol when your bg's are high when taking one or more of the oral meds for diabetes. The main med in mind was metformin. There was something about the combintion of the high bg and alcohol, even in moderation, in combination with the metformin, that I had read about around that time, that was dangerous. Take Avandia myself, and have tried to stay away from metformin for that reason. That and when I retire I'll be much more likely to be able to afford the cost of the met more than any of the others.

[4519]

It says "You should not drink alcohol whilst you are being treated with Metformin Tablets".

But I like yours better :).

I guess if you take the stickers on the bottle as the last word, then you should not use alcohol based on that. I would not encourage alcohol for anyone, I don't drink but a little dry wine, on occassion.

If you look at the long printout from the drug company it says to refrain from excessive use of alcohol. Look at the companies site and that is what they say. Whoever took that and shortened it to no alcohol is just adding their own opinion to the mix. Do as you wish - it is your body and your decision to believe whomever you feel knows best - there are many different "experts" to tap from, so to speak.

[Phranky]

What they say in regards to metformin and alcohol is that, in rare cases (1 in 33,000) that drinking alcohol while on metformin can lead to a potentially fatal condition called, "lactic acidosis".

This is a very rare side effect, and my endo said what all dr's say about alcohol, if you want to drink in moderation, that's fine, 2 drinks for a woman, and 3 for a man.

He said as a T2, I might want to consider low-carb beers if that is my drink of choice. Rum, scotch, dry wines, are virtually carb free.

So - to set the record straight, the warning associated with alcohol and metformin is due to a rare side-effect called, "lactic acidosis".

My two cents....

[Tim_Roy]

Rich,

Dark beers tend to contain more carbs. Have a look at the list at

http://www.beer100.com/beercalories.htm


Bah, there's no REAL BEER (http://www.beer100.com/beercaloriesimports.htm) on that list.

American beer is like sex in a canoe, you know?

[xMenace]

Sugar, in some form, is used to make all alcoholic drinks. But during the fermentation process, the sugar is turned into alcohol and CO2. Which is why most spirits are dry and contain no carbs.

I make homebrew beer. I let all the carbs ferment out. And the finished product doesn't affect my blood sugars at all.

Cheers, :1eye:

Mark

You must use a wicked yeast. Beer yeast tends to die when alcohol content gets around 5%. There certainly are carbs in beers, and they do affect my sugars.

[sugarfree76]

Bacardi....and diet cola....they get the job done.

[xMenace]

Bacardi....and diet cola....they get the job done.
I prefer Gosling's Black Seal.

[Lex4153]

I usually drink Bacardi and Diet Coke. Is it true that there is NO sugar or carbs in that drink? That's what I've heard.

[SJP0tato]

I usually drink Bacardi and Diet Coke. Is it true that there is NO sugar or carbs in that drink? That's what I've heard.

This is true, there are no cabs, or not enough to affect my bg levels enough to notice. Sometimes I'll have a Jack Daniel's & diet coke or two. Just make sure that you have a little bit of something to eat to keep your sugars up. I usually have a small appetizer dish with a few french fries or whatnot. It seems to add up to 10-15g of carbs generally that I would need to consume to keep things leveled out and not get into a low situation.

Ryan P.

[Roy Gardiner]

And just to add more joy (I've put this on another thread too but not all may see it) I just had my lowest BG reading since I started measuring (only a few weeks) after an afternoon in the boozer.

3 pints of fine Ruddles County, 2 bottles of Corona. Not a session, but a nice drink anway. Rock on Tommy!