Eggs and carbs

[maya0606]

Hey everyone!

I have been experiencing very high blood sugar every time I have eggs in the morning, I thought eggs dont have carbs, whats happening to me. For example this morning i woke up with a 3.1 and i had a yogurt that had 15g of carbs and one small banana and one whole egg and one white, i put 2 units of insulin to cover the banana, two hours later my sugar went up to 14.6 i was soo mad. does anyone experience that? because every time I avoid eggs my sugar is perfect

[Jan B]

Maya,

Eggs don't raise my bg at all. Have you tried eggs only without the banana and yogurt?

[maya0606]

yes they increase my sigar to 10 or 12 irs weird I am seeing my nurse and my nutritionist thursday :(

[Jan B]

How strange . . . almost like you are allergic to eggs!
Bananas have so much sugar, they work good for correcting a low.

[xMenace]

Does this happen every time? if it's just this once, it could be a rebound from the 3.1.

Protein does get converted to carbs. Approx 58% according to sites I've googled. Do other proteins do the same at breakfast or just the eggs?

It may also be the Chinese Restaurant Effect (http://www.diabetesforums.com/forum/carbohydrate-and-calories/34966-chinese-restaurant-effect.html)

If it's consistent and repeatable, then bolus for them.

yes they increase my sigar to 10 or 12 irs weird I am seeing my nurse and my nutritionist thursday :(

Good luck with them :eek:

[xMenace]

Bananas have so much sugar, they work good for correcting a low.

Not for me. I often under-bolus for them. Apples too.

YMMV!

[maya0606]

it also goes up if my sugar is 6.6 or 7, i would test two hours later and its high, when eggs are included in my breakfast it spikes but if no eggs i in there the sugar is perfect, I dont use anything just little butter not even coffee spoon and just salt

[TommyC1]

That IS odd.
I like to have eggs and sausage for breakfast when I can because it does NOT raise my BS.
But as the Menacing one said, if it happens every time just bolus for it.

Tommy

[kstreeter513]

I always have to bolus for eggs too. I know that eggs are the most complete protein compared to any other protein source. Could the bio-availability of eggs getting broken down in the intestines be the cause?

[howdysf]

a banana has about 25-40 carbs depending on size, plus you had 15 carbs in a yogurt... I think those are the culprits..

[cwathne]

a banana has about 25-40 carbs depending on size, plus you had 15 carbs in a yogurt... I think those are the culprits..
that would be my guess; though its odd that the OP said even without these items added eggs cause high blood sugar

Maybe the yogurt and banana are causing a spike and the protein in the egg is causing blood sugar levels to not want to drop in the following hours??

[xMenace]

A lot going through my small brain today. Now that I think about it, I usually bolus for eggs too. I often eat three-egg omelettes for dinner with no carbs. It takes somewhere between 4 and 6 units of Novarapid to cover it. I always assumed it was because of the Chinese Restaurant Effect - a three egger full of cheese, meat, and veggies is very filling. Maybe it's just the eggs¿

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While we're on unusualities regarding bananas, I have my own story. Before my low-carbing phase I was eating toast and PB for breakfast. I was taking 2.5 units per 10g of carbs. My standard breakfast is now a sliced banana smothered in Balkan style yogurt: 25g + 10g = 35g total. I usually bolus 4u for this, and I end up with no spiking and I often go a bit hypo before lunch. It's a 0.875:10 ratio, 35% of my previous ratio. I have no idea why the change, but I welcome it. I may try a piece of toast sometime to see if my old rate is needed for it. My basal rates checked out last test in March while this new rate was in effect.

[viranth]

Sausages and eggs raise my BG some, but not that much.

I've increased the fat in my diet lately, I think that's the perp.

[Jan B]

Sausages and eggs raise my BG some, but not that much.

I've increased the fat in my diet lately, I think that's the perp.

Of course, I don't know how this works for others, but I was told for every 30 grams of fat, take one unit of humalog (compared to 1 unit for 15 carbs). It works for me.

[Subby]

I seem to spike on eggs pretty randomly. I sometimes have toast, but usually just eat them with a veggie such as mushrooms or spinach, or with some bacon. When doing so especially with the bacon, they randomly spike me at 2h pp perhaps the equivalent of being maybe 15g of carbs each. Yep, weird. I try and hedge both ways and bolus for them being about 10g carbs each, it's about the best approach I can find.

There are quite a few foods that most definitely break the rules for me as far as carb/fat/protein amount to spike amount. Practically, I see it as an extension of the wide range of spiking scenarios from different carbs. All I can suggest is that experience is the wisest master here!

[BlueSky]

it also goes up if my sugar is 6.6 or 7, i would test two hours later and its high, when eggs are included in my breakfast it spikes but if no eggs i in there the sugar is perfect, I dont use anything just little butter not even coffee spoon and just salt

You could just be seeing a timing effect. An adequately covered high-carb breakfast will spike your blood sugar within one hour, and by two hours after eating, BG should be back where it was before you started eating. So if you only test 2 hours after eating, you don't see the spike. Eating an egg with those same carbs delays the spike, so you see it at its worst when you test at 2 hours after eating. The egg only delays the spike that the carbs are causing.

Having said that, I cover a 3 egg breakfast with a fair amount of longer acting insulin (Regular) in spite of eating no carbs with the meal. Because it is a substantial meal, I suspect that the "Chinese Restaurant Effect" comes into play, and some of that protein is probably being converted into glucose. Also bear in mind that we tend to be more insulin resistant in the morning.

[NoraWI]

I bolus for eggs as though each contains 1 carb. There is fat in the yolk and that should be taken into consideration. Also, the fat the egg is fried in... I mostly use butter but have used a bit of olive oil at times.