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dbaratta
07-29-2009, 05:12 PM
I feel like I keep getting slapped here in this forum. This is to exchange ideas and experiences, in no way should people take the comments here over the advice of their doctors. Please see the forum rules below.

Diabetesforums is an online community of people with Diabetes, friends, family and caregivers from around the world.

Considering the real-time nature of these forums, it is impossible for us to review the content or confirm validity of information posted. The content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice and should be taken as educational only.

yannah
07-29-2009, 05:15 PM
I feel like I keep getting slapped here in this forum. This is to exchange ideas and experiences, in no way should people take the comments here over the advice of their doctors. Please see the forum rules below.

Diabetesforums is an online community of people with Diabetes, friends, family and caregivers from around the world.

Considering the real-time nature of these forums, it is impossible for us to review the content or confirm validity of information posted. The content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice and should be taken as educational only.

your fine.

you'll get slapped once in awhile. do what I did and learn to enjoy it.

its all worth it. this is a great place to be. seriously.

dbaratta
07-29-2009, 05:30 PM
your fine.

you'll get slapped once in awhile. do what I did and learn to enjoy it.

its all worth it. this is a great place to be. seriously.

Yeah I know...I am not feeling well tonight and was looking for a way to delete myself from this forum. LOL I don't care what anyone thinks of me really,,,,or what I have to say. I just want to pick up some ideas for myself and share my experiences. :D

Delphinus
07-29-2009, 05:36 PM
I feel like I keep getting slapped here in this forum. This is to exchange ideas and experiences, in no way should people take the comments here over the advice of their doctors. Please see the forum rules below.

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Part of the reason we share so much medical experience is because we have learned alot of times general practitioners will get us on the wrong, or at least a less stable and less desireable path.

I have learned more by interecting with other diabetics, who actually have the practical knowledge via living it, alot of the medical community simply does not.

Doctors will give you some form of direction(hpefully), the rest is up to you to take it.

Your health is your responsibility, whether you choose to do what a doctor tells you, is very much your choice, but you have to understand alot of the members here trust each other more then the medical community.

It's simply a fact that you will learn more from people who share the same lifestyle, then those looking in, making suggestions from the outside, doctors or not.

Diabetes care is trial and error because no two people are different. Nobody reacts the same to treatment, so you tend to have to experiment, or guage your own treatment based on other peoples tried and true methods.

Nobody has to take what they read here as the gospel. It's all laid out, and we can decide on our own, and even run it by a doctor or nurse if unsure.

Diabetics, long time, and rookies, I consider pioneers, and I am sure even the medical community looks to us from time to time as well, so that they may hone their skills, and update their archaic diabetic knowledge, thusly educating themselves so that they may better advise their own diabetic patients in a more prudent fashion.

jenb
07-29-2009, 05:42 PM
Diabetics, long time, and rookies, I consider pioneers, and I am sure even the medical community looks to us from time to time as well, so that they may hone their skills, and update their archaic diabetic knowledge, thusly educating themselves so that they may better advise their own diabetic patients in a more prudent fashion.

Ha! You are such a cockeyed optimist I should hug you. But that would probably get me in trouble.

Jen

notme
07-29-2009, 05:44 PM
Part of the reason we share so much medical experience is because we have learned alot of times general practitioners will get us on the wrong, or at least a less stable and less desireable path.

I have learned more by interecting with other diabetics, who actually have the practical knowledge via living it, alot of the medical community simply does not.

Doctors will give you some form of direction(hpefully), the rest is up to you to take it.

Your health is your responsibility, whether you choose to do what a doctor tells you, is very much your choice, but you have to understand alot of the members here trust each other more then the medical community.

It's simply a fact that you will learn more from people who share the same lifestyle, then those looking in, making suggestions from the outside, doctors or not.

Diabetes care is trial and error because no two people are different. Nobody reacts the same to treatment, so you tend to have to experiment, or guage your own treatment based on other peoples tried and true methods.

Nobody has to take what they read here as the gospel. It's all laid out, and we can decide on our own, and even run it by a doctor or nurse if unsure.

Diabetics, long time, and rookies, I consider pioneers, and I am sure even the medical community looks to us from time to time as well, so that they may hone their skills, and update their archaic diabetic knowledge, thusly educating themselves so that they may better advise their own diabetic patients in a more prudent fashion.


Well done Jason!

Spock
07-29-2009, 05:45 PM
Diabetes care is trial and error because no two people are different.

... and no two people are the same.:D

Delphinus
07-29-2009, 05:47 PM
... and no two people are the same.:D

Haha...

I just hit the edit button to fix that. Seriously.

I got timed out tho.

GeishaGirl
07-29-2009, 06:55 PM
Honestly, any halfway decent doctor (meaning one who listens and doesn't have a God complex) understands that, soon enough, the diabetic will outstrip the doctor in basic knowledge. I went to see my doctor a few weeks after starting the pump, and she was surprised I'd been adjusting my own basal levels -- she got over it quick, and she was absolutely delighted, but I get the feeling she's used to dealing with people who do no research on their own.

owlyn
07-29-2009, 07:41 PM
I definitely know more than my GP, but I let him think he knows more. This allows me to manipulate the situation to get the Rxs I want. For real advice, I come here, and will run some things by my endo, who usually confirms what I found out here. For example, using advice here, I figured out how to split my Lantus. I ran it by the endo who said it sounds good, please leave your copay with the receptioninst. :)

Granny Shanny
07-29-2009, 07:41 PM
Not sure why you take it so personally, but I doubt if anyone here is actually swinging at YOU. We do what we do with everyone who comes along - tell our experiences, explain what has worked for us, and just compare notes with people who actually understand what we're living with and going through. Try to help people understand that managing this disease is a lifetime commitment since there's no cure at present, so they can take control of it, or not.

It's possible that some new patients come in feeling more knowledgeable about this than people who've fought the battle for years . . . and I'm not sure why that is. It doesn't make sense to me. I'm more than happy to consider the advice of someone who has walked in my shoes and can shed a little light on my path. If my doctor walks in these shoes, then I'm more than happy to listen to him, but if he's just spouting rhetoric that he learned in medical school, he's wasting his breath. Docs are not gods, although some of them act like it, and I can say this because I'm married to one. It does nobody any good to put docs up on a pedestal - not the doc, and not the patients. They are human beings and they make mistakes.

What is your connection with the professional medical community that you're taking this to heart so strongly? The comments you've made can be easily turned around to make it look like you're "slapping" us because we've learned a little during our journey and we're willing to share what we've learned to benefit new medical travelers.

And btw, Jason . . . excellent post!

retired60
07-29-2009, 08:02 PM
Most all these people have lived the life that I have for the last 15yrs. My Doc is for scrips only and to talk about fishing. I look forward to reading about new ideas and increasing my knowledge of this dreaded disease. I thought that I was well educated on diabetes until I joined the forum. It is like a big family here with help that the medical community can't give you.

notme
07-30-2009, 10:56 AM
This thread was closed due to the high volume of spam. Poppy's question was moved to "Splitting Lantus Dose" thread.