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[yu qinghua]

Dear diabetes friends:

I am a 70 year old man in Tianjin China ,a 26 years diabetes patient.Since 1992, I suffered from Diabetes complications, diabetes foot ,peripheral arterial disease(PAD)(arteries become clogged with fatty deposits)and neuropathy(a nerve damage caused by chronic high blood surgars).Since then,I`ve been in Tianjin Diabetes Hospital for three times.The three times reports of Doppler instrument and pulse volume waveform analysis showed that my block rates of leg arteries were 20%,30% and 40%.The symptoms of aches, cramps,fatigue, heaviness and numbness from my foot ,ankle and leg gradually become more and more severe, Arteries radiography showed both my front shin arteries gradually become blocked.
I choice the way to struggle by doing the Stem Cell Transplantion.Although it is newly invented treatment,may not be truely scientfic by now.It really worth for me to run the risk to have a try.After I fulfilled the operation for half an year,my ankle brachial index (ABI) had really increased,from 0.88 to 1.18.My occasionally appeared intermittent claudication seemed disappeared.By now, my blood glucose levels, cholesterol levels,are still in normal range,Hemoglobin AIc reading 0.64%.I insist on walking 40 munites each day,althrough it `s really hard.The rest times of the day,I`ve to leave both my legs high up,preventing it from heaver and swell.That is me .
Hardly could I find out a patient friend who have the same disease and having the same symptoms in China .I think exchanging informations between the patients themselve,would be both win for them.I welcome the patients and Doctors to contact me,at any moment.
Joining in a group like this is what I really wanted,although my English is rather poor.Nearly every month there was a newly appeared symptom that puzzled me a lot.It tells me that the operation has nothing to do on my feeling at least.The only way to keep a relatively normal life is to do various exercises and midecine care.to overcome the symptoms of aches, cramps,fatigue, heaviness and numbness from my foot and ankle. I `ve been doing evening walk for 40 munites,.wiggling my toes, moving my ankles for 5 munites several times a day ,for years.But it couldn`t prevent the symptoms from deteriorating or slow down the speed of it The more and more I felt my ankles heavier.I`m really tired. Obviously the next would be the intermittent claudication and ulcers waiting for me! Is there anyone who can show me some experiences about that?How can I do to prevent from it?I took the Pletal and Pancreatic Kininogenase tablets for three years ,but the more I took it ,it needed to take more,why?
Thanks
Best regard.
diabetes patient: Yu qinghua.Tianjin. P.R.China

[mg_2204]

Hello Yu qinghua and welcome!

As you will soon find out, this is a great place. For years, I had been looking for such a place myself. Diabetes is a very lonely battle. It helps greatly to be able to share with others. Great people here.

English is a second language for me too! So don't worry. Your English is certainly not poor.

I don't have much advice to give you on neuropathy but I do know that some people in the forum are experiencing similar problems. It will be beneficial for you to share with them on the subject. I just wanted to greet you to this forum.

Welcome!

[Belinda]

Welcome to our "family" you will find lots of people here that are very supportive and helpful.

As for your english....I understood everything that your wrote :) I have English as my first language and French is my second. You will find lots of people here from all over the world.

Enjoy

[buzzborne]

Welcome Yu qinghua, you have found a great place here, with people worldwide and with great knowledge!! Don't hesitate to ask anything!

As the others have said your english is not poor! Understood everything.

Welcome aboard and hope to see you around often :)

[Dewey]

Hi Yu qinghua and, as the others said, welcome! I also understood everything you said in your post so no need to apologize. Glad you have found this forum and hope you will post often. :thumbsup: :)

[gettingby]

Helo and Welcome. Do not apologize about your English. I understood everything you said. I have a Japanese great aunt and a Korean Aunt who have been in my family for many years and I still have trouble understanding them sometimes. Please stay around with us. It's interesting to hear from people all around the world. :)

[HeatherP]

Welcome Yu, I'm glad you decided to join us. I'm T1 for 13 years, on insulin. I'm sorry that this disease has given you such a terrible time of it. I don't have any experience with neuropathy, and I hope I never do, but I know others have and would be happy to share advice and support with you. I hope that you'll visit often and make some new friends!

Nice to meet you,
HeatherP
(Oh! And your English is fine! :thumbsup: )

[am1977]

Welcome!

Always nice to see another new member!

Hope to see you around ;)

[nantomsuethom]

Hi Yu Qinghua, welcome to the forums! :thumbsup:

[BeadieJay]

Welcome Yu qinghua, it's so great to have new members from different parts of the world. Your English is very good :)

I'm sorry you are having such problems with your feet. I hope that someone here will be able to give you some advice...please stay and visit with us some more.

[yu qinghua]

Hi! everybody!
It`s really excited,having so many warm-hearted Diabetes friends welcome me to go in this Forums.As a new comer,a lonely old patient.struggling on the roads of Diabetes,I do`nt know how should I say to show my feeling of gratitudes.What I have to do by now is to learn from all of the
Senior Members who contributed and devoted there wisdom and intelligence there for such a long period.
Thanks to you all!
diabetes patient: Yu qinghua.Tianjin. P.R.China

[Lee73]

Hello Yu Ginghua,

Welcome. I am new here too. I agree with everyone else: Your English is great, no need to apologize (and I am an English teacher).

I am sure your experience with stem cell implantation will be extremely interesting to many here.

I do not have diabetes but my father and sister do. My father also had hardening of the arteries in his legs along with hardening of his carotid artery combined with neuropathy. He was also having pain, cramps, numbness in his legs. His doctor suggested implantation of artificial veins in his legs. He underwent the surgery for the artificial veins in his legs which has fixed the problem of arterial hardening, however he still has nueropathy. The surgery was great for him. He regained the use of his legs and has much improved blood circulation. He also had surgery on his carotid artery in his neck after a blockage caused a stroke. The nueropathy is a separate issue from the hardening of the arteries. I believe the surgeries he had and the artificial veins added years to his life and quality to those years.

Hope this has been helpful.

Lee

[yu qinghua]

Hi!Lee.
So glad to hear from you,and thanks for your encouragement and informations concering the surgery your father took ,on his carotid artery which added years to his life and quality to those years.If you are intrested in any kinds of informations I memtioned ,don`t be he hesitated.
I`m a new comer ,so I have to join in a public group where I can talk to more doctors and diabetes patient friends with the same diseases of PAD and PDN and its symptoms .How should I do ?
yu qinghua.

[Karon]

Hi Yu Quinghua and welcome, I'm quite new here also and am amazed at the amount of people from all over the world, it's awesome. Your English is great, no need to apologize we can understand everything you've said.
Karon

[Littlebit63_99]

Yu,

Welcome to the forum!!!!

I have severe neuropothy in my feet and legs...........was measured at the U of MN for arterial damage.....and there is quite a bit. I would suggest to you that you try bike riding.......less impact than walking, and it strengthens both the back and front of the tops and bottoms of the legs.

Your English is pretty good, and I have a lot of respect for you folks out there that are bi-lingual.

[KickStart101]

Hey Marie, I am just popping in here to say I Love that.... :D :) Is it a dancing banana or.......whatever........too cute!!!!!!!!!
***Carlie*** :)

[KickStart101]

Hi Yu and a Big Welcome to this great Board!!!!!! We hope you will learn
very much good information here and we do hope you can share some
information you have learned from your Country. Take Care!
***Carlie*** :)

[mg_2204]

Carlie, I thought a dancing banana would be my new mascot... since I'm (trying) to be vegetarian and (trying) to exercise a lot more lately. Glad you like it! Makes me smile every time I see it anyway. :)

[yu qinghua]

Hi all:

Although my feet looks well,with a normal temp,can still walking ,jogging and jumping ,since I simultaneously possess the risky conditions of old age,long diabetes history,PAD and DPN,my doctor just told me to enjoy everyday, waiting to death.Is that true?What else can I do?How long will it be?
Best regard.
diabetes patient: Yu qinghua.Tianjin. P.R.China

[Dode]

A big and warm welcome to Yu qinghua. I am new to the forums as well but am very glad I found it. I know that we new comers will find a lot of good information here and we, in turn can maybe help someone else. It is soooo great having a place to talk to others that don't look at you like you're crazy when you say about not being able to control your blood sugars or about being so very tired all the time. Yu qinghua I hope that you can find something that will help you to be able to enjoy life a little more. My Mother died from having a leg amputated from losing circulation in it. I have vowed that I am not going to go that way. I will fight this diabetes to my dying day.
Here's wishing everyone a great day and low blood sugars.
Dode

[yu qinghua]

Dode

So glad to hear from you.,and thanks for your encouragement.So sorry to hear that your Mother died from having a leg amputated,
I appreciate your resolution to vow for fighting diabetes with your whole life.You must be a very tenacious and firmness woman I `ve ever met.May be both of us are on the same road to struggle.We have no way else and no time to hesitate.As you can see ,my case is very complicated;What about yours? May be exchanging informations between us,would be both win for us,right?
Best regards.
diabetes patient: Yu qinghua.Tianjin. P.R.China

[yu qinghua]

Hallo everyone,

Sorry for being so late to enter this site. I 'd been unfortunately hospitalized for several month. This is the ninth times I lived in a hospital. .I took the Angioraphy for second times, because I eagerly wanted to know after tow years of stem cell transplant whether my legs and feet's arteries blockage was worsening. Thanks God ,I can still keep my ABI high up to 1.02-1.05.And I saw a few new growth of arteries appeared. But this time, I was really shocked seeing so many Diabetes patients with different symptoms of ulcers and amputations passed away before my eyes. The Diabetes peripheral vascular diseases I'm suffering is really a mortally illness. Nothing could be trivial no matter how tiny it was.
I advocate managing our destiny in our own hand because the docs may make mistakes due to his/her lack of liability and negligence's.
You knew, I insist on walking each day hoping leading a new life, but gradually it became really hard for the numb and weakening ankles leading me to find out the true reason of it's symptoms. After searching the differences between true claudication and pseudoclaudication. Then I knew from the net that: the true intermittent claudication does not occur without a decrease in the ankle systolic blood pressure (of ABI) and a decrease in the pulse volume amplitude -this was not my case. But the pseudoclaudication related to lumbar spinal canal stenosis can be the same symptoms but it can get relief by sitting or leaning forward, then I knew it was me. After consulting my doctor and taking MRI, knowing that I really had had the disease of lumbar spinal canal stenosis, but my case was not so serious, no surgery needed .I can only get relief by massage , acupuncture or waist training. After this kind of therapy and waist training, I felt much better than before. I found out I can walk much longer time. Recently I even increased the intensity of walking to one hour continually covering distances of 5km each days, for more than three month, but after that ,I decrease it to 30 minutes in this year.
It was not a easy job for me to do that. Every times I started to walk I felt my legs and feet very numb and weak, but after walking I felt a little bit of relief, at least my walking gesture turned to normal a bit. Through a whole year's hard working, I obviously improved my ability to do the routine of daily life, still, by no means it can cure my diseases.
Good luck everyone.

yu qinghua

[seacomp]

diabetes patient: Yu qinghua.Tianjin. P.R.China
Hello Mr. Yu, my respects to your age, your struggle and your successes.
You fight like a tiger, I can tell in your words.
I know it is hard for you but you have had recent success, that is good. You will have more.
What stories you must have to tell, an educated man living thru what has happen in China in the many decades of your life.
When I came to the Forum, you were away so this is the first time I get to meet you. It happens that in my life today I am reading the history of China and am in the Chin dynasty period. At that time, Tianjin probably was also a door to the sea as it is today.
You are welcome here and I am honored to meet you.

[Tokyo Cate]

Welcome to the Forums Family, Yu qinghua. I hope you find lots of support and encouragement here, as I did.

I am sorry to hear that you have had such a difficult time with complications and hope you receive treatment to help you regain your quality of life. Bicycle riding sounds like a good alternative to walking. Swimming is also a really great form of exercise that could help, I would guess.

Nice to see you here and hope to see you often.

[seacomp]

I wish I had some information to contribute regarding your vascular problems with your legs and feet. It is good that you are doing all the exercise that you can both for your circulation and your overall health.
I wonder if I can ask some questions about how diabetes is treated in China, You mention a diabetes hospital that already is different from in the West. There are no hospitals just for diabetics, although we certainly have enough patients to fill them.
Modern treatment in the West is either Multiple Daily Injection (MDI) or an insulin pump. Both work off the idea of a basal insulin dose plus a bolus dose for each meal dependant on what is consumed. Thus both approachs use "carb counting."
MDI uses a very long term, non-peaking insulin, Lantus or Levemir, plus a very rapid acting short tern insulin, Humalog or Novolog/rapid. These insulins are recombinat DNA human insulin with "tweaks" to affect their absorption. Are these insulins available in China or do you have a Chinese version, or use something else in their place?
Patients here ordinarily get an A1C test (gluconated hemoglobin) at least every three months. This test which measures "average" Blood Glucose is considered the basic measure of how good the diabetic control is. Do you use this test in the PRC?
I will stop with the questions. Thank you for your time.

[yu qinghua]

Hallo ceacomp,

Wonderful talking with you! I enjoyed classical music as you were, when I were young. Do so-do me so do so- of Mozart, Me me me do-, ri ri ri te- of Beethoven, I still remembered the scene of US expeditions troops coming to Tianjin, leading by the brass bands, performing "The march of patrolling soldiers", so spirited a tune, waving in the air, planting the seeds of friendship in my youth. It was 61 years before, the 1945, when I was a teenager. Now, China is a huge international market, and instead of US, could be the commerce centre of the future world.

Thanks for your introductions of modern treatment in the West. The globe is so small, in the era of information, we all live in the same village. In China, the group of Diabetes patients was so colossal may be larger than its of whole western countries So there couldn't be any different between us in treatments or medications, you know the Insulin was invented in China. I took the Novolin 30R Penfill Injection for more than 5 years. But in China We still have some kinds of effective Chinese medicines for complement. My A1c checked, 6.4%.
Since I suffered from Diabetes over thirty years, how to control the glucose, cholesterol build up is none of those business I have to worry about. What make me more concerning is only the complications. Do you have any kinds of it? If you have ,I can give you some kinds of advices
Best wishes.

yu qinghua

[Mister Q]

Good day to you yu qinghua

I am afraid I can offer no help with regards to your problems, but I can offer my support and I hope you get some relief from your problems soon. You are right exchanging information between us all is a great way to get support and advice. Your English is very good and much much better than my Chinese!

I would love to hear about the way your diabetes has been treated in China as Chinese medicene is one of the oldest in the world and I am sure there is something that maybe we could learn and would be of use to us in the West.

[seacomp]

What make me more concerning is only the complications. Do you have any kinds of it? If you have ,I can give you some kinds of advices
Best wishes.
yu qinghua

Hello Mr. Yu,
I am happy to hear from you. I did not know that diabetes was such a major problem in China. I know that in South East Asia there is a great rise in diabetes due to the increased standard of living and the general fondness for very sweet things. Thinking about it, of course, the Chinese are similar; much famous Chinese food very sweet. I do love General Tzu's chicken, but no more can I have!:mad:
Tianjin in 1945 watching the US troops come in, and having seen the Japanesse leave must have been something, no wonder you can still hear the music. Have you lived all your life in Tianjin?
My own situation is not too bad. I have only been on insulin about 2.5 years and am able to control my glucose pretty well. (Although last night I mixed up my insulins and took the wrong one, what a mess! Eat candy in a hurry! Everything find today.) I think I am one person who gets complications easy, There is only one serious one today, which I've had almost from beginning. It's much less of problem now that I am getting old than were I young; then to be vigorous is so important. Of course, I worry about eys and kidneys. I fear dialysis, being stuck in a room three times a week forced to watch bad television:help: :help: :help:.
I will talk later.

[Doetsch]

Welcome :)

[cdngoose]

Hi Yu
Hi Yu Quinghua.
Welcome to the forum, I'm new here as well. You will be able to correspond with people from many different parts of the world. How awsome is the internet.

[yu qinghua]

Hallo ceacomp,

Yes, I've lived almost all my life in Tianjin, for my family's been there. By now, my son and his wife, including my granddaughter have immigrated to UK, and my daughter’s already been in Beijing. So I have no one to accompany with, thoroughly a lonly old patient. Would you mind saying some thing about family of yours?
Diabetes patients at your stage always have the inclinations of suspecting that there be some kinds of worsening goes on, I’d been one of them. But only when the definite symptoms appeared and the physiological index showed abnormally that there is a need to pay attention to. We’d better not to guess our destiny, it’s too hard for us to bet. What we should do is only not too silly to miss the chances of recovering.
Best wishes.

Yu qinghua

[seacomp]

Thank you for telling me about your family Mr. Yu. You must miss your son and his family, but your daughter, while she is not right with you, is not that far away. Maybe, like Shanghai, you can get a very-high speed train between Beijing and Tianjin!
I have no family myself except my mother who is many thousands of miles away, but that is OK, as I am used to it.
About complications, the English cliche is "don't cross that bridge until you get to it." That is wise, but it is also wise to know that there could be a river ahead.
Can you tell me more about how you treat your leg problem besides the exercise you do?
Have a smile Mr Yu. ;)

[yu qinghua]

Hallo ceacomp,

My leg problem is so complicated that’s beyond the imaginations of ordinary people. I‘ve never met any patients who suffered the same symptoms as I had. That‘s why I had to come to this site. I hope one day, I can meet one.
What of those diseases caused my leg and feet problems of numbness, cramping, fatigue and tingling, are not only by the Diabetes complications of arterial occlusion, neuropathy, and the vein problem, but also by the lumbar spinal canal stenosis.
Besides exercise I have to balance my glucose, taking lipid lowering agents, antiplatelet agents and a lot of medicines to maintain my heart and blood pressure orderly, of cause, taking neuropathic relieving medicine and peripheral vascular medicines and a lot of Chinese herbal medicines as well. It’s really rather complicated matter for a day’s ease.This is the sadness of the Diabetes patients.
Thanks.

Yu qinghua

[seacomp]

Besides exercise I have to balance my glucose, taking lipid lowering agents, antiplatelet agents and a lot of medicines to maintain my heart and blood pressure orderly, of cause, taking neuropathic relieving medicine and peripheral vascular medicines and a lot of Chinese herbal medicines as well. It’s really rather complicated matter for a day’s ease.This is the sadness of the Diabetes patients.
Ah!, Mr. Yu it is hard and sad to be getting older with pain and problems, it is not good. But the alternative is not to get any older, and that in this world can be done only one way:help: .
I do not believe in the magicians of East or West, Tao, Buddist or Christian but only in the slow progress of science and man's inventiveness. I can not speak for others, but without science and medicine, I would have been dead many years since. I am glad I am not. ;)

[carrie37]

Welcome Yu! I am new here too!! And dont apoligize for the English. I understand I am a Yankee and moved to Georgia and boy oh boy..........they cant understand me since Im so prim and proper.......where they have saying I will never understand!!!LOL Dont be afraid to ask questions these folks really know their stuff!

[yu qinghua]

Hallo carrie37,

Welcome here! From your speech,I feel you are a optimistic,lively young Diabetes patient.At your stage of the disease, without suffering from its complications,nothing need you to worry about.You are lucky, only have to take oral dosing of Glucobay or Metformin.That's enough.But you still have to insist on diet plan,exercises programming.
But I'd like to advice you:don't take too much Metformin. I took it 20 years before.Since It`s side effects may do harm to kidney,our Doc refused to use it for my case.Then I only took Glucobay.
Thanks.

yu qinghua

[yu qinghua]

Hi seacomp.

I agree with you!I only believe the mordern science and new invention.Let us wait.
You said that without science and medicine, you would have been dead many years since.May I ask you tell me the key story of it?
Thanks.

yu qinghua

[seacomp]

You said that without science and medicine, you would have been dead many years since.
Well, that is clearly the case with an insulin dependant diabetic. Before the 1920s, a very low carb starvation diet could prolong the life of a diabetic for a while but that was it.
But I was thinking in a more general sense. For example, I am very near-sighted, modern society 1) gives me glasses etc. (and now operations) so I can see, and 2) emplyoment in which that vision handicap is not important. When I was younger, I got a bad back from a accident and had sciatia so bad I couldn't walk. Again, I was able to get an operation to fix it, and to have employment where that weakness was not relevant.
I am in my late 50s, no one considers that an old age today or anything rare. But historically, it is so. In the histories of olden times, it is not unusual to read of someone "just dying" in their 40s or 50s (how many, I wonder, from diabetes?). Today we find that very odd and expect an accident, a rare disease, or foul play to be the cause.
But if you look at your own life, you will see similar things, I'm sure. Even leaving aside the diabetes (don't we all wish we could? :whistling ), there are other things you likely have overcome.

[yu qinghua]

Hallo ceacomp,

Your speeches are very interesting. I enjoy talking with you. But, in your speech none of these you mentioned are vitally threatening to your health. You mentioned sciatica,a disease almost every old person more or less could suffered from, isn’t so serious as the disease of mine, the lumbar spinal canal stenosis. So in every respect, you are more healthy than I am, right?
I noticeed you are always on the net. What else did you do, in your spare time? Any chances went to concert? May I ask?
Thanks.

Yu qinghua

[seacomp]

So in every respect, you are more healthy than I am, right?
I noticeed you are always on the net. What else did you do, in your spare time? Any chances went to concert? May I ask?
I do not want bragging rights or who is more healthy or more sick! May we both be as healthy as we can, for as long as we can, and add as much to the world as we can, before we visit another.:shakehand
I am on a lot because much of the work I do today involves using the internet to get information, so each time I go on to do some work, like this time, I've gotten in the habit of checking out the Forum and replying to some items, perhaps.
I live a little too far from Washington, D.C., about 100km, to go there often, especially for things like concerts at night. There used to be two very good classical music stations here, but about 2 years ago one of them decided to stop playing classical music, and then about 4 months ago the other one switched it's frequencies around. I can still hear the station, but reception is so poor that you really can't listen to good music.
How about you, Mr. Yu, what do you do?

[befni]

Hi yu, welcome to the forum. Hope you feel a bit better soon

[yu qinghua]

Hallo seacomp,

Thanks for your advice concerning the attitude towards life.
Much of your work are connecting to the computer. Luckily enough, perhaps you may be an Senior engineer working in the domain of IT, right?
Since I`ve retired 5 years before, and had the bug of complication, keeping my health is the number one in my life, although I enjoyed listening to classical music.
Going on the net and watching the TV are the main parts of my daily life. Besides, I have to doing my exercise program at least three hours per day, including morning exercise-half an hour, evening walking-one hour, jogging on my trail machine, and stretching on my Circulation machine(a kind of vibration machine),at least two times- half an hour each per day.
I used to go to the consert every month, when i were young. In those days, the weekly concerts were available, the famous symphony, the piano, violin or cello concertos. But now ,I seldom could enjoy a wonderful one, unless to hear on the new year concert of Vienna. Occasionally, I may find there is a nice one on the TV or in the radio station of Tianjin. Still, I play piano everyday, because I just only want to keep my finger to be flexible, or else, my brain problems may occur, that's all.
May I ask your glucose level controlled, recently? Are there any symptoms of yours leading the suspicions of the eyes or kidney problems?
Good luck.

yu qinghua

[yu qinghua]

Hi cdngoose,

You are welcome!
Since I’m a type 2 diabetes patient for more than 30 years, I ‘d like to give you any kinds of advices, when you need. Don’t hesitate!

Yu qinghua

[seacomp]

Besides, I have to doing my exercise program at least three hours per day, including morning exercise-half an hour, evening walking-one hour, jogging on my trail machine, and stretching on my Circulation machine(a kind of vibration machine),at least two times- half an hour each per day.
...
May I ask your glucose level controlled, recently? Are there any symptoms of yours leading the suspicions of the eyes or kidney problems?
Good luck.

yu qinghua
Hello again Qinghua,
I am very impressed with the amount of exercise you do every day. Three hours is much work. I have been trying to exercise more as the weather gets nicer and it is pleasant to be outdoors. But walking for a half hour at most maybe two times a day is all I can do. It does help in many ways.
And after your exercise you play the piano, wonderful. Perhaps a little Chopin or Shubert maybe? That will kept your fingers, and your mind flexible. After all, the great Ludwig:king: wrote his best works when he could no longer hear, except of course with his mind.
It is now about 12 years since I've been DXed. Soon after I read a book by a controversial doctor on low carb diets and diabetes. I was able to control my BG for about 5 years on diet and exercise. I had Fasting BG of about 90 (5.0).
Then over time I went on metformin and now insulin (for 2 years). My FSG is now about 104 (5.8). I have a very good A1C, too good. My doctor and I agree that it gives a distorted reading because of other medications I take.
But with all this good work, there are bad signs; tingling in my feet, bad numbers on my kidneys, gastroparesis (sometimes), etc.
So I do my best and live today in order to see tomorrow.
The best to you, sir.

[yu qinghua]

Hallo seacomp,

Three hours! Terrible! But，why? Only 40 minutes of it are continued aerobics exercise, the other two hours I must admit only a kind of activity, moving and stretching even resting on some appliances doing twisting my toes or some thing. Occasionally, I have a jogging on the treadmill for a few minutes. Exercises training is a kind of therapeutically treatment for claudication, Adaptation to exercise training, it's said ,could induce angiogenesis, increase blood flow to skeletal muscle distal to an arterial occlusion or stenosis. Through the training, I've kept the ABI level in normal range, during the few years. If you like, can see it from the site of:
"Exercises training\Clinical Trial Exercise Training for Patients With Poor Leg Circulation.htm"

Of cause, I admired and enjoyed Ludwig Beethoven, Mozart, Shubert ,Tchaikovsky, Chopin and (sorry for the spelling)List, Gelinka's works of the famous movements, the the wonderful melodious lyrics and its sort of intensity of feeling, pathetic feeling, depression, exultation, happiness, desire and frustratioin.
It's my main part of spiritual life.

Please, don't worry about your kidney problem, unless your checks of protein of 24 hour urine are up to
100 ug(=1/1000mg),expressing you are at the primary stage of kidney disease. There 5 degree of it, until reach to the degree of kidney dialyse. Before the 5 degree, it’s curable by medication. Would mind saying more of your feet or eyes?

Lucky!

yu qinghua

[seacomp]

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Please, don't worry about your kidney problem, unless your checks of protein of 24 hour urine are up to 100 ug(=1/1000mg),expressing you are at the primary stage of kidney disease. There 5 degree of it, until reach to the degree of kidney dialyse. Before the 5 degree, it’s curable by medication.
Hello Mr. Yu,
I've waited a bit before answering you since I was hoping to have results from a 24 hour urine test (along with many other tests, they take vials and vials of blood from me!), but my doctor hasn't called. My creatinine levels had been running high (1.8) on my previous test and I wanted a real reading on what the situation is. I've not seen anything that suggests there is medication to deal with kidney disease.
The writeups I've seen tend to list risk factors like hypertension, diabetes, etc. with a treatment approach of "control your hypertension", "control your disbetes", etc., but once you've done all that they suggest nothing except dialysis.
Your responses are informative; your last made me look up what ABI is. I like being made to learn new things. And I like that I can find something like that
so easily on line. Not that long ago, I'd have had to go to a library, a specialized medical library to look that up, now I can just Google for it.
Google, which I undersatnd you now have or are getting in China, is not the magic some people think it is. You can get a reference, a quick definition, but generally not any understanding, any depth. To understand you have to read a book, or two or ten, study, think, not just know a few words.
It is like music. A Mozart will take an idea, a musical idea, a musical offering, and build it up, tear it down, invert it, explore it's presences in multiple keys, with multiple voices and with different instruments. Popluar music today just repeats a simple idea, over and over.
As you know, your President was here visiting my President yesterday. But, perhaps, it's better if I don't comment.
Do have a good weekend.

[yu qinghua]

Hallo seacomp,

Sorry! I’m too old to concern about the politics. None of those business need me to be worrying. I really have nothing to do with it. But I hope the friendship of ordinary citizen between our two great countries will be gradually increasing and flourishing. I thought it to be inevitable certainty, alone the evolution of history.

What about the result of your urine testing? Please go to the site of:
http://www.nkdep.nih.gov/patients/kidney_disease_information.htm#4
There are more infors about it. In China, a lot of medicines and Chinese medicines can be used to improve the index of leakage of urine protein, such as Pancreatic Kininogeniase etc. My first diagnoses of fourth degree of kidney disease was in 2002. But I kept it fine, until now. We can buy a king of its test paper, very cheap, roughly judge its degree.
Talking about ABI, I can tell you a story that I experienced recently.
Seldom ever have a doc told you to check and try to control your ABI(ankle-brachial index)by yourself. ABIs, the blood pressure in pedal artery divided by the higher of the systolic pressures in the brachial arteries of the two arms, are the golden index of Diabetes Complications.
This time I lived in hospital, so many Diabetes beside me, I happened living between two patients. One of them only having bited by a mosquito, the other only took a bath and broke his leg, and the ulcer’s occurred, tortured for half an year in hospital, each night took marijuana to kill its pain and without recovery. Why? Because the ABI<0.8, the circulations of blood amplitude were too small, the muscle hadn't had enough nutrition to supply. They have just too late to notice the ABI. Of cause, at these stages, even no obvious symptoms could have to be feeling. Vast amount of Diabetes complication’s sufferer made the mistakes.
Accompanying by arteries atherosclerotic and aging of age, in terms of the seriousness of the diseases, roughly speaking, the Diabetes Vascular Complications can be divided to 4 stages.
1,The primary stage, suffering from light Diabetes neuropathy, ABI>1,=1.0-1.4,No risks existed. You can keep fit, just as you were.
2,The Claudicating stage, you can’t walk long ,as long as two Km, because the walking requires blood to supply to the muscle. You have to take painkiller each day. The ABI<1,=0.8-1,this is me But I can walk more than 3Km,by now.
3,The ulcers stage, The ABI<0.8,=0.5-0.8.Your blood in your legs was too small. You will lost the ability to deal with routine of daily life, and have to take marijuana each night.
4, The amputations stage, your ulcers were so bad that no way to keep your toes or legs for your survive of life The ABI<0.5,=0.3-0.5.Almost no blood flowed in you legs.
This is what I experienced, through 5 years of complications suffering.
Don't worry, the ABI can be adjusted by the human interventions.
Checking your own ABI at home is really easy. You can look at the site of http://www.strokescaninc.com/abi.htm
I often check ABI every month, but you don't have to do it. Only when you find your feet becoming cold, turning pale and diminishing of your upper feet pulse, then there's a need to do it.
I always noticed the changes of routes of veins above my feet, after a few year, some of the veins diminished, but the new routes appeared. Why? I consulted the specialists of Diabetes and they told me: inside our muscle of any parts of body, there are an "arsenal" of potential veins or arteries. When it works is decided by the external environments. So, if you strengthen those part's movements, there is a possibility to forming new arteries. It's true. I tried and saw it.
Still, self bone marrow stem cell transplant and Endothelial progenitor stem cell angiogenesis is available by now. It's really a marvelous method to controlling ABI.
If most of us had already had the awareness about it, the mortality rate could have been drastically decreased.
We, the initial stage sufferers of Diabetes complications, have no ways to survive, unless always paying attentions to your feet, checking its ABI by a family used blood pressure meter. Once it goes worse, you know it from the ABI, the temp of feet and the color, you have to strengthening your exercise to the utmost, or getting a angioplasty or surgery. Also, stem cell transplant is one of its treatments I always highly recommended.
This is my private views.But a bit of overloaded with details.
Thanks.

Yu qinghua

[seacomp]

Accompanying by arteries atherosclerotic and aging of age, in terms of the seriousness of the diseases, roughly speaking, the Diabetes Vascular Complications can be divided to 4 stages.
1,The primary stage, suffering from light Diabetes neuropathy, ABI>1,=1.0-1.4,No risks existed. You can keep fit, just as you were.
2,The Claudicating stage, you can’t walk long ,as long as two Km, because the walking requires blood to supply to the muscle. You have to take painkiller each day. The ABI<1,=0.8-1,this is me But I can walk more than 3Km,by now.
3,The ulcers stage, The ABI<0.8,=0.5-0.8.Your blood in your legs was too small. You will lost the ability to deal with routine of daily life, and have to take marijuana each night.
Mr. Yu, hello, you have a wealth of information on a very important topic to me and many others in the Forum. I have taken the liberty of posting a link to your discussion here in a thread on foot/leg problems.
I understand that politics is a subject that you have passed by, I am not so advanced, but am also interested in people from different cultures and countries communicating. It is called a "Dialogue of Civilizations".
When I get information back about my GFR test I will look to the site you reccommend.
With my feet, I suspect that I am in Stage 2, the claudicating stage. My feet usually, but not always, feel cold, my hands take "forever" to warm up if I go out in colder weather. I develope a pain, very much like a cramp in my left calf (but not on my right), initially when I walked as little as about a kilometer. I now can walk about double that before it gets too bad. And, if I can make myself walk slower (that is hard for me when I am walking for exercise), I can again double that again. The pain goes away almost immediately when I stop walking not like true fatigue. I assume this is the same pain that you are talking about. This pain is new, I did not have it last year before I stopped walking because of the colder weather.
I do not want to reach stage 3!:mad: But I expect that there are some who might wish to be, or to be seen as being at that stage because then they
"have to take marijuana each night.", and then they could it legally:canabis: , at least, in some parts of the U.S. I am surprised that people can get it in the PRC. Is it considered a "herbal remedy"?
I have an appointment with my endocrinologist in a little over a week, I will ask him about this. But, I already suspect that he will tell me "Not my job, man, go see a neurologist!."
I am not sure if I understand correctly how to take a ABI. Do I just take a blood pressure (BP) measurement around my arm, as usual, and then around my ankle, as if it were an arm, and compute the ratio? Am I missing something?
Thank you for your help, I would be happy were there anything that I could assist you in.

[UpNorth]

你好 Yu Qinghua! (hope chinese characters work on here :1eye: )
Welcome to the forums :)

[rog]

Hi!
My name is Roger. I am a type 2. I am 61 years old. I have been using magnetic insoles to improve circulation. I have talked to many people in the past with circulation challanges in their feet and legs. The results of the products I have been using is fantastic. I am on several medications and trying vinegar and cinnamon that has been suggested by others. Have you had any results?
The best to you,
Roger

[yu qinghua]

Hallo Roger

Welcome to this forum, rog!
I comprehend that you are suffering the feet/leg circulation problem, very painful, right? Since both of us have the same problem, and I ‘ve had 5 years experience of the complication, I’d like to offer you a few suggestions, if you can explain your disease in more detail, as I did before.
Best wishes.

Yu qinghua

[yu qinghua]

Hallo UpNorth,

Seldom have I ever find a friend who can say a few words of Chinese! 谢谢你！欢迎来访！

Yu qinghua

[yu qinghua]

Hallo saecomp.

Thanks for your praising remarks for my point of view.
I think the talks between us are really a kind of different cultures and countries communicating, a "Dialogue of Civilizations". I hope one day, vast amount of ordinary citizens can join in.
According your describes whether you are in the second stage of feet problem or not, sill can not make a definite conclusion. But more often than not, it looks like it. We have to have a more detail discussion, shall we? Please give me a private message on :
yuchwtjh@163.com
Have you sill can feel your upper feet arteries pulse? Is it still strong? Have you check your ABI? What is the index of ABI? If you lift both your feet high up for five minutes, then you put it down, how long before the viens get brimming?
Please tell me what is GRF PRC and endocrinologist? You know my English ‘s limited. Where can I find a thread on foot/leg problems on this forum?
You know You may be the very person having the same symptoms of complications, and the respectable character I am looking for so many years! Only between us, the conversations may be truthful, heart to heart and comprehensible. Let us be a true friend in the leavings of our life!:shakehand
Best regards.:king:

Yu qinghua

[UpNorth]

Hallo UpNorth,

Seldom have I ever find a friend who can say a few words of Chinese! 谢谢你！欢迎来访！

Yu qinghua


我只会说一点点中文 呵呵 but i'm learning :)

[yu qinghua]

Hallo Mr. Castonguay.

Sorry, I sent a E-mail to you yesterday, but returned. Why?
This is what I said:

Can I call you that?
Thanks for your fast responding. First of all, let me answer your questions.
Yes, Testing ABI at home can only use the BP meter, check your ankle and arm, divide the value of it, calculate its ratio, that’s all. Normally, the value of ankle will higher than that of arm.
On the leg raise test, it is lifting the feet high up, raising it above the head for five minutes--you have to lie on bed, and then, standing up, on the ground. Watching your legs veins, counting its times.
Last time I said “those patients each night took marijuana to kill its pain”. In fact, it is Pethidine injection .I thought they are the same substances and I forgot it s spelling, yesterday.
In China people cannot get it in pills in drugstore, It is illegal to use it in daily life. Only if they have cancer & are going through chemotherapy or lived in hospital they can get it by the prescription of Doctor who is in charge of your disease.
If you have to distinguish the true claudication and the pseudo one, please look at P.C: Lumbar Spinal Stenosis.
Best wishes.

Yu qinghua

[yu qinghua]

Hallo again,Mr.seacomp,

Please, go to http://www.ccjm.org/pdffiles/Mukherjee801.pdf
you can find it.(about claudication and the pseudo one)
If your E-mail box is on a different Protocol,I may be having problems to send, but no problems to receive.
thanks

yu

[yu qinghua]

Hallo seacomp,

Congratulation! You can walk 4000m.How long does it take?How fast your heart rates goes? After walking ,you feel better or not? Does your feet feel a bit of swollen like feeling?
About opening a new thread, I think I 'm too old to take on any duty, and I'm a new comer here.You may be suitable to do it ,I 'd be always with you!
Please go to
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00118560
there can solve your exercise problem.
Good luck!

yu

[rog]

Hi Yu,
I was diagnosed having type 2 about 6 Months ago. My Pancreas is making insolin but my cells do not recognize. I have been put onseveral medications. We are in the experimental stages to see what my body reacts to. I am not on insulin. I do not have much trouble with foot and leg pain because I have been wearing magnetic insoles for several years. I also have a stimulator that sens magnetic energy through my feet and legs. It appears that few people are aware that this type of technology can be hugely successful. You had stated that you were in alot of pain so I thought I would share this wonderful knowledge with you. Thank you for caring enough to offer your help. Are you using insulin?
Health and Happiness,
Roger

[yu qinghua]

Hallo rog,

So glad hearing such a piece of useful information, I’ll try it. Thanks a lot!
Being a Diabetes patient for almost 30 years, I took insulin injection more than 5 years now. I’d like to share my experiences with you and all those patients who have the same motive.
In your stage, keeping your glucose level, taking a diet plan, taking a few medicines and insisting on doing exercise everyday, at least 30 minutes are the things you need. Generally speaking, your ultimate aim is preventing from the appearance of the complications, as long as you could. It’s not difficult, if you pay enough attention to.
Best wishes.

Yu qinghua