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foxl
08-09-2009, 11:19 AM
Chickpeas!

I love chickpeas and they have in the recent past affected me negatively. I am thinking ... 60 - 80 g net carbs' worth, for lunch!

A little cumin, a little fried onion ... YUMMY! Of course I will be valiantly quantitative about it all, too.

Stay tuned if you are bored ...
Dis-N-Dat
08-09-2009, 11:32 AM
Were you considering a bit of soup maybe? Hang on, hang on...ahhh here it is, a lovely ham hock with lots of meat still on the bone. Here you go (she hands it over). Oh shoot, I almost forgot, here's a few carrots from my garden they're particularily sweet this year.

What else shall we add?

(When your babies do get home are they ever going to have some yummy leftovers!)
foxl
08-09-2009, 11:38 AM
I am vegetarian, so thanks for the ham, but no thx!

Not a soup, either, although I do sometimes make a lovely Greek one with lemon added to the above ingredients.

Boiled and drained. And of course, EVOO from the onion-frying :) My husband ate them that way with beers when he was stationed in Tel Aviv. It is addictive and he got me hooked!

Only kiddo who likes chickpeas is my son, he eats and appreciates a HUGE variety of foods!
Dis-N-Dat
08-09-2009, 11:45 AM
Ooops, sorry about that. Will the carrots still work?
foxl
08-09-2009, 12:04 PM
They would if I were not too lazy! :)

I am waiting for this harvester to finish on my farm before I start cooking ...
foxl
08-09-2009, 12:59 PM
76.9 g of chickpeas and onions ... delicious!
e||ement
08-09-2009, 01:57 PM
i always get favourable results with chick peas...and eat them often. i usually eat a cup serving (about 28g carbs) at a time, probably 2-3 times a week.

most often i bake them with grapeseed oil, garlic, roasted red pepper spice, baby tomatoes, goat cheese and portabella mushrooms and top with steamed bok choy.

had it last night, in fact! YUM.

let us know how it goes for you!!
foxl
08-09-2009, 01:59 PM
76.9 g carb (1 can plus onions) ... 1 hour, 163

Okay THAT is more like me ...
Granny Shanny
08-09-2009, 02:00 PM
Uh oh . . . :( :( :(
foxl
08-09-2009, 02:00 PM
e||ement, this was def more of a peasant dish -- chickpeas, onions sauteed in olive oil, cumin, hot red pepper, and turmeric. Quite simple.

Chickpeas have saponins which adsorb lipids and cholesterol in your gut ...
e||ement
08-09-2009, 02:05 PM
your dish sounds good too, i think i'll have to try it ;)

basically, i will devour anything with chickpeas (or chickies, as my 2 year old calls them). fortunately he likes them too.

keep us posted on your experiment!
foxl
08-09-2009, 02:06 PM
I have sooooo missed them!
e||ement
08-09-2009, 02:12 PM
hey, what about other legumes, like lentils? do they spike you as well?
foxl
08-09-2009, 02:17 PM
In all but THE TINIEST portions, yes.

Black beans, lentils, chickpeas ... I ate one of them at least twice a week! I miss my friends!
foxl
08-09-2009, 02:21 PM
90 minutes ... 218.

Guess I am still diabetic, huh? ;)
Granny Shanny
08-09-2009, 02:33 PM
Thus sayeth your logbook . . . :D :D :D
foxl
08-09-2009, 02:53 PM
2 hr .... 210

EWWWWWWW.
e||ement
08-09-2009, 02:54 PM
eeeek!

suppose you halved the serving?
foxl
08-09-2009, 02:56 PM
Well that'd be about the equivalent of what I did yesterday, 40 g ... so I'd probably be fine with that much. And a LOT of low-carb side dishes of course.

So, how many grams carb per meal would the ol' ADA want me on ... ? Heading to look!

The website now says 45 - 60 g carb per meal, or more, or less ... OR LESS! Good ...

I had 80 in this meal. 40 would work for me, I maxed out at 130? yesterday?
sumi
08-09-2009, 03:00 PM
Yes, half a serving = half your BG, Right??? If only...
e||ement
08-09-2009, 03:00 PM
my diabetes nutritionist said to eat 30-60g carb PER MEAL plus 15g carb snacks...and that was when we thought I was T2.

ridiculous!
foxl
08-09-2009, 03:05 PM
my diabetes nutritionist said to eat 30-60g carb PER MEAL plus 15g carb snacks...and that was when we thought I was T2.

ridiculous!

No, no, truly ridiculous, and I think it was you who yesterday said it would have peaked FAR higher if I did this daily for a while ...
foxl
08-09-2009, 03:56 PM
3 hr: 118.

Maybe I will eat a (LOW CARB) dinner!

Wonder how this have effected tomorrow morning's reading?

I can see it now ... The Glucose Tolerance Diaries. w00t.
RobinP
08-09-2009, 05:46 PM
my diabetes nutritionist said to eat 30-60g carb PER MEAL plus 15g carb snacks...and that was when we thought I was T2.

ridiculous!

Ok, I'm sitting here looking at the notes that my DE's dietician made for me, back when I was first diagnosed. In this sample meal plan she has me eating 45gm per meal, 15gm snack between lunch and dinner, then a 30gm snack before bed. That sounds like way too much, especially before bed. I never followed this plan. I just try and eat as low carb as I can and my numbers are still way high. I see my dr this week, so we'll see what he does.
RobinP
08-09-2009, 05:49 PM
Oh and get this...I'm looking at my notes from my first dr appt last February. He said 60gm per meal and 30gm snacks. lol
foxl
08-09-2009, 06:21 PM
Oh and get this...I'm looking at my notes from my first dr appt last February. He said 60gm per meal and 30gm snacks. lol

OMG even if my blood sugar were controlled I cringe to think would I even be able to WALK?

Robion I hope your doc gets a c-peptide!
RobinP
08-09-2009, 07:13 PM
Linda, I checked my papers and I did have a c-peptide done at my first appt for bloodwork. It says 1.0
foxl
08-09-2009, 08:04 PM
Linda, I checked my papers and I did have a c-peptide done at my first appt for bloodwork. It says 1.0


Lower limitd of normal, eh? And probably lower now.
Kathy Brown
08-09-2009, 08:23 PM
90 minutes ... 218.

Guess I am still diabetic, huh? ;)

Darn. I love chick peas too. I got a new pressure cooker today, planning trying new recipes with it. Let me know if you have any good ones. :D
RobinP
08-09-2009, 09:53 PM
Lower limitd of normal, eh? And probably lower now.

I go in Thursday for my follow up to my bloodwork from last Friday. I don't know if he ordered another c-peptide. If not I'll ask about it.
foxl
08-10-2009, 07:31 AM
Darn. I love chick peas too. I got a new pressure cooker today, planning trying new recipes with it. Let me know if you have any good ones. :D

Chana dal is a slightly different species of chickpea, and harvested at a less-mature stage. It is supposed to be lower glycemic index, but so far I have not had much luck ... but that may be as much portion control issues!
foxl
08-10-2009, 11:33 AM
One interesting point ...

to summarize, my 80-g carb load readings were:

0 (1:51 pm) 94
60 163
90 218
120 210
180 118
240 91

(10 addtl g carb for dinner, followed by mild 30" cycle workout) ...

7.5 hr 87

Following morning FBG was only 100 so it did not add to DP, apparently!