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Kosmo29
09-11-2009, 07:30 AM
Do you have to have sugar in your urine to be diabetic? Talked to the nurse at my dr.'s office after the thyroid test came back okay. She said my urine looked fine, no sugar so they would do a fasting in December and they weren't concerned about my post meal 150's and 160's.

foxl
09-11-2009, 08:09 AM
Sugar in urine is a crude, outdate means of measuring blood glucose.

morrisma
09-11-2009, 08:47 AM
To add to Linda's correct info, your blood sugar might have to climb over 180 or 200 to spill into the urine. This threshold varies from person to person and may vary over time. Sugar readings over 150 are a bad sign and indicative of organ damage. Do not wait to get these readings under control.
Keep testing and tracking especially in relation to high carb meals!
Mike

Kosmo29
09-11-2009, 02:59 PM
Organ damage of what kind?? Just have blood glucose of 160 post meal can do that?

ADSOFT
09-11-2009, 05:58 PM
I know you have a lot of questions, I was like that too. There is a lot to learn.

My recommendation is to go to BloodSugar101.com or it might be BloodGlucose101.com. It will answer all your questions and more.

Get some books too.


For now, it is very important that you find out what your HDL, LDL, TRYGICERIDES are. Also find out what your BMI is and get to your desired weight. Walking 30 minutes a day is a must, but I got started with 5min a day, that's all I could do at first. I'm up to 30 minutes no sweat now.

It looks like you have already been to a doctor and had your blood checked. Request a copy of you blood record. .. if you havent' had a blood test, get it checked asap. Learn about Syndrome X too.

The best thing that you can do at this point to control glucose, IMHO is: Limit your carbs to no more than 65g per meal and start testing. Don't be letting you BG go over 140 2 hrs after meals, try to stay at 135 if you can. Test and find out what foods will spike you. It may be too much for you right now, but glucose levels are directly related to carb input. Most Pre-D's can handle 45-65 grams per meal of a glycemic index of 50 or less and be under 140bg in 2hrs. So, try 65 grams of carbs check your self in 2hr and then try 45grams and check yourself in 2hrs. You will know your limit. I wouldn't be going over 65g till you get a little bit more knowledgeable about Diabetes, you don't want to over stressing your pancreas till you know where you are at.

Looseing weight will redistribute your insulin to be used more effectively to control your liver and muscles glucose absorption. The less fat you have the more insulin you will have to control the liver and muscles, in terms of glucose that is.

Look into drinking wine, or low calorie alcohol and how that controls glucose out put from your liver. I'm not telling to drink alcohol, just to look into it and check with your doctor.

Like I have mentioned before, the American Heart Assoc. recommends that people drink red wine.

I wish you the best of luck, and if you have any questions there are many people here to help. :D

morrisma
09-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Organ damage of what kind?? Just have blood glucose of 160 post meal can do that?

If left uncorrected over time, yes. Kidneys seem to be the first to get hit but the rate and extent of damage varies wildly from person to person. We all know someone who smoked unfiltered cigarettes and lived to be 90 while a non-smoking friend died of lung cancer. It is impossible to predict what 160 bs will do to any individual. On average, that number is too high to be left untreated.

This is not a case of you being in grave, imminent danger. Your kidney is not likely to fail after a week but given that some damage is possible, wouldn't trying to correct it make sense? Talk to an endocrinologist about how best to get that 160 to under 120.
Mike

Ulysses
09-11-2009, 09:10 PM
I know you have a lot of questions, I was like that too. There is a lot to learn.

My recommendation is to go to BloodSugar101.com or it might be BloodGlucose101.com. It will answer all your questions and more.

Get some books too.


For now, it is very important that you find out what your HDL, LDL, TRYGICERIDES are. Also find out what your BMI is and get to your desired weight. Walking 30 minutes a day is a must, but I got started with 5min a day, that's all I could do at first. I'm up to 30 minutes no sweat now.

It looks like you have already been to a doctor and had your blood checked. Request a copy of you blood record. .. if you havent' had a blood test, get it checked asap. Learn about Syndrome X too.

The best thing that you can do at this point to control glucose, IMHO is: Limit your carbs to no more than 65g per meal and start testing. Don't be letting you BG go over 140 2 hrs after meals, try to stay at 135 if you can. Test and find out what foods will spike you. It may be too much for you right now, but glucose levels are directly related to carb input. Most Pre-D's can handle 45-65 grams per meal of a glycemic index of 50 or less and be under 140bg in 2hrs. So, try 65 grams of carbs check your self in 2hr and then try 45grams and check yourself in 2hrs. You will know your limit. I wouldn't be going over 65g till you get a little bit more knowledgeable about Diabetes, you don't want to over stressing your pancreas till you know where you are at.

Looseing weight will redistribute your insulin to be used more effectively to control your liver and muscles glucose absorption. The less fat you have the more insulin you will have to control the liver and muscles, in terms of glucose that is.

Look into drinking wine, or low calorie alcohol and how that controls glucose out put from your liver. I'm not telling to drink alcohol, just to look into it and check with your doctor.

Like I have mentioned before, the American Heart Assoc. recommends that people drink red wine.

I wish you the best of luck, and if you have any questions there are many people here to help. :D


:confused: So, how does this help answer the OP's questions about sugar in his urine or what kind of organ damage??

IMHO this post should be deleted, it doesn't really answer anything, a specific answer to the OP would have been more appropriate.

ADSOFT
09-11-2009, 10:01 PM
:confused: So, how does this help answer the OP's questions about sugar in his urine or what kind of organ damage??

IMHO this post should be deleted, it doesn't really answer anything, a specific answer to the OP would have been more appropriate.

Oh, all those questions are answered in bloodsugar101.com.

The other stuff was ment to get the poster on a game plan to control blood glucose. Usually once you go to that website you're so shocked that you are grasping at straws on how to get you glucose under control.


KNow there, been there.