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Bobby T
10-10-2009, 11:39 PM
Do you guys think as a type 1 I should get this shot.Also are you or have you taken this vacination?
Grunch
10-10-2009, 11:54 PM
http://www.diabetesforums.com/forum/other-medications/44097-h1n1-swine-flu.html
alicat61
10-11-2009, 01:34 AM
:) Hi,
I had this injection last Tuesday. Didn't think twice about having it. I work in a Hospital and have dealt with a few cases
so I'm at risk, Having Diabetes is also a risk.
Truely I have had no side effects from immunisation not evan a sore arm that you can get after flu injection. I will let you know if I start oinking:D (sorry could not resist)
zoelula
10-11-2009, 09:05 AM
Absolutely. I haven't been sick yet since my diagnosis and I want to keep it that way! I had my seasonal flu vaccine already and I'm just waiting on my doctor's e-mail that the H1N1 vaccine is here.
My MD said to call the Public Health Dept. DAILY till it is in! :(
They sounded apathetic.
Granny Shanny
10-11-2009, 10:04 AM
And my SECOND kid came down with it this morning.
Aaaw Linda . . . dangit anyhow! I hope they have mild cases & bounce back quickly.
Aaaw Linda . . . dangit anyhow! I hope they have mild cases & bounce back quickly.
Thanks, Granny. He seems much better on just ibuprofen, so hopefully it won't be too bad!
But after my scary flu 20 mos ago ... not too excited about what happens to ME. Sounds selfish and un-Momish, but he feels better so now worrying about ME and DH.
Joeprep4820
10-11-2009, 11:22 AM
My GP has one waiting for me. I travel on planes a lot and to various places so I'd rather be safe than sorry.
I've never done flu shots and won't start with this one.
Jen
Funnygrl
10-11-2009, 12:27 PM
They hadn't come in at work yet last time I was there 5 days ago. Maybe they'll be there when I work this week.
sable_032592
10-11-2009, 01:15 PM
i get the flu shot every year, no matter what bug is going around... since my sister has 6 kids and my extended family is around 100 people mark for christmas time this year, i have every plan to get the h1n1 shot... of course i know a lot of people are scared of getting it, but that's their issue...
shiftzor
10-11-2009, 03:11 PM
Had my flu jab and thinking of getting the H1N1 jab as well.
Independent
10-11-2009, 05:27 PM
having the flu vaccination next week and will definately be having the swine flu, which i have already had and wasnt very pleasent. caused super high bg. not sure if it was the swine flu or the Tamiflu which caused this.
morrisma
10-11-2009, 05:42 PM
Regular shot last Thursday, h1n1 in 2 weeks if it is in.
Mike
Oh, well. Looks like I won't be getting vaccinated, after all ... :(
It's heeeere. Sore throat and cough.
Moonglo
10-11-2009, 05:57 PM
Oh, well. Looks like I won't be getting vaccinated, after all ... :(
It's heeeere. Sore throat and cough.
Oh, no! Linda, if you have a fever by tomorrow morning... that's probably what it is, especially if you get a horrible headache too. At least those with the sore throat and cough are what we've been seeing here. Get some rest.
Oh, no! Linda, if you have a fever by tomorrow morning... that's probably what it is, especially if you get a horrible headache too. At least those with the sore throat and cough are what we've been seeing here. Get some rest.
I am quite sure ... my youngest had it last week, DS came down with it this morning. Peds are not even testing in our area, anymore.
I will be resting, and probably online a lot since my son will be watchign TV (same room!).
networkguy
10-18-2009, 11:29 AM
My MD said to call the Public Health Dept. DAILY till it is in! :(
They sounded apathetic.
I will not be getting this. Ive had 2 flu shots in my life, and both years I got terribly sick about a week afterwards. Those were about the only times I ever got sick (Im lucky). No flu vaccines for me.
Well a week after I came down with it, the whole family is recovering.
Obviously we will not be waiting in line for the vaccine!
But ... I WANT MY WEEK BACK!!!!
NewdestinyX
10-18-2009, 03:34 PM
I will not be getting this. Ive had 2 flu shots in my life, and both years I got terribly sick about a week afterwards. Those were about the only times I ever got sick (Im lucky). No flu vaccines for me.
Pretty sure it wasn't from the shots. They only use 'dead virus' in these flu vaccines for many years now. You can't get sick from the vaccine according my doc and a good friend of mine who's an ER doc. It must have been coincidence those 2 years you took them unless it was more than 15 years ago when they still used the 'live stuff'.
And it takes about 2 weeks after vaccination before it's fully in effect in your system protecting you. Seems like you had just bad luck those 2 years. But I'd 'wonder' too, in your shoes. But in the end 'logic' has to win out for me. The problems with the H1N1 flu vaccine that I've heard revolve around it being effective at all and that's why some people are touting its effectiveness or efficacy in getting it at all.
NewdestinyX
10-18-2009, 03:52 PM
Well a week after I came down with it, the whole family is recovering.
Obviously we will not be waiting in line for the vaccine!
But ... I WANT MY WEEK BACK!!!!Again -- I'm sorry -- how can we be 'pretty sure' that we've come down with 'H1N1' as opposed to the normal flu this year (which I think doesn't usually hit until around December/Jan - maybe that's my answer) and a regular cold virus?
xMenace
10-18-2009, 03:55 PM
I'm back at the hospital again for a couple of months, so I expect I'll be amongst the first in the city to get it. I have my regular shot scheduled too on Nov 6, but I bet I get it earlier.
Does everybody also get a pneumonia shot every five years?
morrisma
10-18-2009, 04:03 PM
John,
Sorry about hospital visit. Those places are the germiest. Why for months?
I get pneumonia shot on what I think is a 5 year schedule. PCP keeps that record and does the shot.
Mike
Granny Shanny
10-18-2009, 04:17 PM
In reality, this very year - 2009, the seasonal flu injected vaccine is made with killed virus; the FluMist is made with live weakened virus.
My source is the Center for Disease Control (http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/protect/keyfacts.htm).
In reality, this very year - 2009, the H1N1 injected flu vaccine is made with killed virus; the nasal spray vaccine is made with live weakened virus.
My source again is the Center for Disease Control (http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_keyfacts.htm).
networkguy
10-18-2009, 04:33 PM
Pretty sure it wasn't from the shots. They only use 'dead virus' in these flu vaccines for many years now. You can't get sick from the vaccine according my doc and a good friend of mine who's an ER doc. It must have been coincidence those 2 years you took them unless it was more than 15 years ago when they still used the 'live stuff'.
And it takes about 2 weeks after vaccination before it's fully in effect in your system protecting you. Seems like you had just bad luck those 2 years. But I'd 'wonder' too, in your shoes. But in the end 'logic' has to win out for me. The problems with the H1N1 flu vaccine that I've heard revolve around it being effective at all and that's why some people are touting its effectiveness or efficacy in getting it at all.
Understood. Notice I didnt say "the shots made me sick" hehe. But even logic can fly in the face of reality sometimes. Im not anti-vaccine at all. In fact, in the last 11 years Ive logged 13 countries in my passport, and have gotten every single vaccine recommended, including hepatitis; however, as I also said, Im either lucky or have a strong immune system because I rarely get sick. I guess Ive never though of the flu as serious enough for me to get vaccinated against. Now, in another 20 years when Im older, perhaps.
NewdestinyX
10-18-2009, 04:59 PM
Understood. Notice I didnt say "the shots made me sick" hehe. But even logic can fly in the face of reality sometimes. Im not anti-vaccine at all. In fact, in the last 11 years Ive logged 13 countries in my passport, and have gotten every single vaccine recommended, including hepatitis; however, as I also said, Im either lucky or have a strong immune system because I rarely get sick. I guess Ive never though of the flu as serious enough for me to get vaccinated against. Now, in another 20 years when Im older, perhaps.Fair enough. Me too. Never had a flu shot ever until this year -- because of being a T2 diabetic. I'm at more risk now -- for the 2nd-ary infections like pneumonia. That's what my doc said is the real problem with the flu in T2's. And GrannyShanny very importantly ointed out that the 'mist' flu vaccine is made with real virus. I would never take that ever.
I had the shot about a week ago, and no effect no discomfort or anything.
Mystae
10-18-2009, 05:16 PM
Nope. Wouldn't even consider it, for more reasons than I can name here. This is an important issue to me, though. Having done some serious research on the subject of vaccinations and immunizations added to the fact that I have had horrible experiences with both, I do not believe in their effectiveness except in very few cases. My children are both unvaccinated, and are rarely ever sick. In fact, they are two of the healthiest kids I know of I would, in a couple of cases, get a vaccine, but overall, I and my family avoid them. H1N1 has been around for some time, and yes people die from it, just like everything else. People die when they get on airplanes, people die walking down the street, people die from getting vaccines, and people die in their sleep. In the case of the flu vaccine, think it's often a matter of using common sense. If you see that there's a raging fever that won't come down right away, or if dehydration becomes an issue, then you GO TO THE HOSPITAL. Just be smart about it. Having a compromised immune system like us with D should just mean that we're more vigilant, not necessarily jumping into taking more meds than what we're already on. Honestly, if I didn't have D, I'd probably never go to the doctor, though. I hate meds, I don't like a lot of doctors, and I think most people are over-medicated. But that's just me. Nobody needs agree. Except my kids because they have to. :O)
Grunch
10-18-2009, 06:43 PM
Having done some serious research on the subject of vaccinations and immunizations added to the fact that I have had horrible experiences with both, I do not believe in their effectiveness except in very few cases. My children are both unvaccinated, and are rarely ever sick.
You should be thankful most people don't think like you. Otherwise your kids would be in big trouble.
networkguy
10-18-2009, 06:52 PM
Nope. Wouldn't even consider it, for more reasons than I can name here. This is an important issue to me, though. Having done some serious research on the subject of vaccinations and immunizations added to the fact that I have had horrible experiences with both, I do not believe in their effectiveness except in very few cases. My children are both unvaccinated, and are rarely ever sick. In fact, they are two of the healthiest kids I know of I would, in a couple of cases, get a vaccine, but overall, I and my family avoid them. H1N1 has been around for some time, and yes people die from it, just like everything else. People die when they get on airplanes, people die walking down the street, people die from getting vaccines, and people die in their sleep. In the case of the flu vaccine, think it's often a matter of using common sense. If you see that there's a raging fever that won't come down right away, or if dehydration becomes an issue, then you GO TO THE HOSPITAL. Just be smart about it. Having a compromised immune system like us with D should just mean that we're more vigilant, not necessarily jumping into taking more meds than what we're already on. Honestly, if I didn't have D, I'd probably never go to the doctor, though. I hate meds, I don't like a lot of doctors, and I think most people are over-medicated. But that's just me. Nobody needs agree. Except my kids because they have to. :O)
I have a rock outside my door of my apartment to keep vampires out. So far, none have come into my house....
You touch on a pretty controversial subject here, but one worth thinking about. There is alot of data regarding vaccines (pro's and con's) and frankly I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of both sides.
I think the best way to get someone to swear off vaccines is watch Will Smith's "I Am Legend" lol
ak3000
10-18-2009, 08:37 PM
I'm one of the few that have been scared off from getting a H1N1 shot because of getting my A kicked by the regular flu shot. No mo flu shots, so I don't think a H1N1 shot would react to me any better.
Granny Shanny
10-18-2009, 09:15 PM
I'm back at the hospital again for a couple of months, so I expect I'll be amongst the first in the city to get it. I have my regular shot scheduled too on Nov 6, but I bet I get it earlier.
Does everybody also get a pneumonia shot every five years?
John? What's up with this? Didn't you just start training again to get back on the ice?
My children are both unvaccinated, and are rarely ever sick.
Kudos to you.
One of my sons (age 20) has zero immunizations and I would echo your statement that he probably is the most healthy among us. His older brothers have very few immunizations and were born at home. Home is the place to have babies, really. No fear, no foreign germs, comfortable and well known environment for baby and mom, etc. The midwife is the one who clued us against doing immunizations. The biggest immunization they spoke against was the drops for the eyes of the newly born baby. Midwife taught us that those eye drops implied an insult to a relationship. The other newborn special feature was the peaking factor for vitamin K for blood clotting - VitK peaks at day 8 which is the customary day for doing the cut - on boys. The local homebirth doc has been preaching hard against the immunization, speaking about probiotic VitD as a real food type of action against flu of all types. I know nothing about VitD, aside from VitD being in all our whole milk. We used to purchase raw milk - mmmm, good stuff. Cream settled to the top and was the best in coffee. Ya had to drink the raw milk quick, as it could get bad quick. If I had a convenient source - I would still purchase raw milk. It was only $1 per gallon 20 years ago east of CSpgs.
I did one flu shot in college 36 years ago. There will be no H1N1 shot for me this year. If I ain't eating well enough to keep away H1N1 - it is my fault if I get H1N1. Eat what your body needs - not what the media blitz says tastes good - and you will be eating real foods that will make a strong healthy body. Not absolutely - but in general, that is what food is all about, eh?
Hammer
10-19-2009, 01:51 AM
I've never done flu shots and won't start with this one.
Jen
Same with me Jen. I've only had the flu twice in my life, and both times it was because I did something stupid. Also, I only go out once a week, and that's for groceries, and I go to the store when it's the least crowded so I don't have to wait in line. (3am is usually a good time.) If I come in contact with two people a week, that's a lot....usually just one, the cashier, so the odds of me getting anything are pretty low.;)
Granny Shanny
10-19-2009, 04:46 AM
Same with me Jen. I've only had the flu twice in my life, and both times it was because I did something stupid. Also, I only go out once a week, and that's for groceries, and I go to the store when it's the least crowded so I don't have to wait in line. (3am is usually a good time.) If I come in contact with two people a week, that's a lot....usually just one, the cashier, so the odds of me getting anything are pretty low.;)
This is our situation also . . . chance of exposure slim to none. Nearby schools have closed due to the flu, but we're so deep in the boondocks that not even a schoolbus drives by here. Only the mail carrier . . .
viranth
10-23-2009, 09:50 AM
Just took the regular influenza vaccine today, got sick last year and was unable to properly work out for about 10-12 weeks. I live in the city, deal with many people through work and my kids are in daycare, so there are many chances each day for getting the flu I suppose.
Then next week, I'll be getting the swineflu-shot (H1N1) because it supposedly hits people with diseases (like diabetes) much harder than normal, and the healthy authorities here in Norway now recommend everyone to take it.
They said in the media today, that experienced doctors were baffled by how quickly things got worse with this flu. It could take a mere hours from people being healthy to critical condition.
I take insulin to survive, I don't mind getting another shot once a year to stay healthy as well. ****, it's only one shot compared to the 2000+ insulin ones.
Grunch
10-23-2009, 09:54 AM
I take insulin to survive, I don't mind getting another shot once a year to stay healthy as well. ****, it's only one shot compared to the 2000+ insulin ones.
People are not concerned because of fear of needles. They are afraid of the government implanting a chip in their brain or something like that.
viranth
10-23-2009, 02:57 PM
People are not concerned because of fear of needles. They are afraid of the government implanting a chip in their brain or something like that.
Heh, I suppose you're right. But they're forgetting that it's the coorperations that implant the chips!
sable_032592
10-23-2009, 04:45 PM
i plan to get the shot, but i just found out that i can't get it until november 23rd... all other people, like kids, pregnant women, health care workers, etc... get it first... people between 18 and 65 with a chronic condition can get their vacination as of november 23rd... and their's a big outbreak about 1.5 hours from where i am, so i'm not going anywhere, since i have asthma and diabetes (among other things), and gastrointestinal issues as well which might make a person more vulnerable to this thing...
but i do plan to get it as soon as i can, because i get a flu shot every fall anyway...
but i do think that as a diabetic, we're more prone to getting these kinds of bugs, so i would say to get the shot, but it's a personal decision, unless your around people who are prone to getting it as well, like the elderly or kids...
Heh, I suppose you're right. But they're forgetting that it's the coorperations that implant the chips!
No, no, no ... it is that corporate chip already in place gets NULLIFIED by the government one! So, it is programmed to make the bearer reject govt injections ... :eek:
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