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thisstinks
11-03-2009, 04:16 PM
DO THE MATH:eek:

morrisma
11-03-2009, 05:13 PM
If you rely on natural news for anything even remotely resembling reliable info, you are up a creek for sure and no paddle in sight....
Mike

DanG
11-03-2009, 06:19 PM
If you rely on natural news for anything even remotely resembling reliable info, you are up a creek for sure and no paddle in sight....

Not really.
Life gets to be more life stuff, not westernized leisure time type life.
We grind our own wheat and make our own bread.
Also, we seldom eat crackers or cookies - we make cookies and pies using the home grind wheat.
A bit more work, but certainly something that is able to be done against the alloxan menace.
Years ago we read the natural news about margarine - butter is much better tasting and is quite healthy for a body that has a brain.

foxl
11-04-2009, 07:35 AM
Alloxan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alloxan)

There IS controversy as to whether Alloxan produces diabetes in humans.

In the past, though, I used it to induce Diabetes in guinea pigs ...

Interesting stuff.

NB wiki does not mention things such as where it is present in the food chain, nor dosage to effect beta cell death ...

sarahspins
11-04-2009, 07:49 AM
Wait, I thought you were blaming your diabetes on thiazides? Now it's alloxan?

foxl
11-04-2009, 07:53 AM
Wait, I thought you were blaming your diabetes on thiazides? Now it's alloxan?

Guess some people want to blame something. It is better to spend the time and energy figuring out how best to take care of yourself and controlling things, thisstinks.

shiftzor
11-04-2009, 11:58 AM
Guess some people want to blame something. It is better to spend the time and energy figuring out how best to take care of yourself and controlling things, thisstinks.

I blame the sky up above me, if it wasn't so blue that day I would never have gotten this god forsaken disease. Dam you sky :D. Maybe we should create another law against it :eek:.

thisstinks
11-04-2009, 11:30 PM
Wait, I thought you were blaming your diabetes on thiazides? Now it's alloxan?

has nothing to do with me...just another example of to much trust in the fda;)

Joeprep4820
11-04-2009, 11:43 PM
has nothing to do with me...just another example of to much trust in the fda;)

It's not that the FDA is not doing their job, it is the fact that the rules on what can be considered consumable are very lenient. For instance, we are one of the only industrialized countries left that has not made hormone fed cattle illegal. Lobbyists from big beef, big potato (yes, this is a lobby), and the restaurants do as much as they can to keep the FDA's budget low.