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kimbo
05-22-2005, 10:44 AM
Hi,
I have to be honest and admit i hate exercise,though i am far from lazy,i never stop,everyone has been telling me for years to slow down.
Is an active lifestyle enough ,i am a new t2 and have lost a lot of weight through this so if anything i am a little under weight.
I suppose when i am finished for the day i cant be bothered to exercise.


kimbo

Cinnabon
05-22-2005, 11:22 AM
Hi,
i am a new t2 and have lost a lot of weight through this so if anything i am a little under weight.
I suppose when i am finished for the day i cant be bothered to exercise.


kimbo

Have you always been underweight ?
The reason for my question is that usually diabetics are thinner when diagnosed due to the sugar being spilled out through the urine. If this is not the case, you should always keep in mind that exercise can decrease your insulin or medication needs, serving the purpose of having much better control of blood sugar levels, as well as many other health benefits.

kimbo
05-22-2005, 04:53 PM
I have never had a weight problem but lost 2 stone in all ,i think some of that was due to coming off an unrelated medication,i reckon i lost at least a stone to diabetes.
I think finding time to exercise is difficult at the moment,poor excuse i know,i think i am trying to convince myself i dont need it .

thanks

MarkMunday
05-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Kimbo,

I am going to play devils advocate here. Are you satisfied with your diagnosis? To me, your comments suggest T1 or T1.5 rather than T2.

Being underweight and the dramatic weight loss you describe is more typical of type 1 than type 2 diabetes. The very high reading you mentioned in a different thread (475) also suggests type 1. At that level, you risk going into keto acidosis, a dangerous condition T1s avoid at all costs. And, even if you tested negative for the antibodies, you could still be T1.

The reason for me raising this is that very different treatments are required for T1 and T2. T1.5 is often misdiagnosed as T2. And T2 medications would accelerate the onset of T1. So you may want to double check this ...

Cheers,

Mark

kimbo
05-23-2005, 02:59 PM
Kimbo,

I am going to play devils advocate here. Are you satisfied with your diagnosis? To me, your comments suggest T1 or T1.5 rather than T2.

Being underweight and the dramatic weight loss you describe is more typical of type 1 than type 2 diabetes. The very high reading you mentioned in a different thread (475) also suggests type 1. At that level, you risk going into keto acidosis, a dangerous condition T1s avoid at all costs. And, even if you tested negative for the antibodies, you could still be T1.

The reason for me raising this is that very different treatments are required for T1 and T2. T1.5 is often misdiagnosed as T2. And T2 medications would accelerate the onset of T1. So you may want to double check this ...

Cheers,

Mark

Thanks for all your info,what is t1.5 ?? I am checking for ketones daily and negative.Do all diabetics do this ?will i have to do it for ever ?
I will take your advice and push for a positive diagnosis,but it is early days and they are still not sure which it is ,i think they are seeing how i do on these meds,will my response to the meds help them decide which type i am ?
thanks

MarkMunday
05-23-2005, 04:34 PM
kimbo,

T1.5 is the so called "slow onset type1". The basic difference between t1/t1.5 and t2 is that the former is essentially the result of an autoimune attack on the beta cells of the pancreas, while the latter is metabolic disorder that results in insulin not doing it's job properly. Oral medications help fix t2, but have no effect on the t1 autoimune attack.

As far as testing for ketones is concerned, this is something diabetics need to do if they are having very high blood sugars, for whatever reason. I hardly ever test my ketones because my blood sugars are under control. So you won't have to do this forever!

If you haven't had an antibody test done, that would be the the next logical step. It should show if your immune system is producing antibodies that are attacking your pancreas. If the test is positive, you are t1/t1.5. You should also have a c-peptide test done. It will show if you are insulin-resistant, which is typical of t2.

The results of these tests will enable your doctor to make a definite diagnosis. Waiting to see how the meds work for you is not ideal, becase they will probably produce a short term improvement regardless of whether you are t1/t1.5 or t2. And if you are t1 or t1.5, the sooner you start using insulin the better. In the early stages, using small amounts of insulin prolongs the life of beta cells.

Cheers,

Mark

kimbo
05-24-2005, 03:01 AM
Thanks ,i am very grateful for your help,i know what to ask for now when i see the nurse ,I will ring her as my appointment at the clinic isnt until the 12 july,i suspect by what you tell me it is maybe too long to wait ?

thanks

Oradev
05-24-2005, 07:43 PM
Hi,
I have to be honest and admit i hate exercise,though i am far from lazy,i never stop,everyone has been telling me for years to slow down.
Is an active lifestyle enough ,i am a new t2 and have lost a lot of weight through this so if anything i am a little under weight.
I suppose when i am finished for the day i cant be bothered to exercise.


kimbo

Exercise is to Diabetes as Peanutbutter is to Jelly :stupid: