More questions on liver dumping

[trowter]

I've read as most of the posts regarding liver dumping, and believe this might be what is happening.
When I got up this morning, my BG was 5.8 (104)...didn't have anything to eat, and went for a 50minute walk. When I came back from my walk, my BG was 7.4 (133) :eek: .
What do I do to avoid this? Should I have eaten before my walk? Would this help? Or is liver dumping just going to happen regardless of what I do? I usually have 1/2 cup of tomato juice and an ounce of cheese for breakfast. I try not to eat before I go for my walk, because it is so early, and then I get ravenous about 10AM, with my lunch not being until 1PM.
Maybe I shouldn't walk in the morning?

Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm still trying to get the hang of things here.
Tanya

[TvBabe]

I would advise strongly that you eat before exercise, otherwise where is your body going to get the carbs(energy) to exercise?

I exercise after breakfast, what I do is....test my fasting sugars, take my insulin, wait 30 minutes, eat breakfast, wait 30 minutes, THEN exercise. I've only had a few liver dumps and only because I think my exercise went a little longer than normal and I must have hit a low that I didn't detect.

Also check your sugars after exercising, since you could be on the verge of a low. It's also a good idea to do a blood sugar every 30 minutes while you are exercising for the same reason.

[Lori M.]

I've read as most of the posts regarding liver dumping, and believe this might be what is happening.
When I got up this morning, my BG was 5.8 (104)...didn't have anything to eat, and went for a 50minute walk. When I came back from my walk, my BG was 7.4 (133) :eek: .
What do I do to avoid this? Should I have eaten before my walk? Would this help? Or is liver dumping just going to happen regardless of what I do? I usually have 1/2 cup of tomato juice and an ounce of cheese for breakfast. I try not to eat before I go for my walk, because it is so early, and then I get ravenous about 10AM, with my lunch not being until 1PM.
Maybe I shouldn't walk in the morning?

Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm still trying to get the hang of things here.
Tanya


The same thing happened to me last Sunday morning. I got up and and checked my BS and it was 150 (I had just taken my first dose of Metformin the day before) and when I got back, I checked it again and it was 157 and it just kept going up. :eek: I finally took my meds and had a little breakfast and by 10 am it was coming back down to normal. I just figured since I hadn't eaten anything that my BS must have dropped on my walk and triggered a liver dump. I'm not taking the early morning walks anymore (I'm not a morning person) I wait until later in the day to either walk on the bike path or do 3 laps around the mall or Walmart. If I do another early morning walk I'm going to take my fasting BS and take my meds and eat a little first to see how that does. :D I'm a newbie to this diabetes thing and it's just going to take a little time to figure out what is best. So just hang in there and you'll figure it out. :)

[byu barry]

I've had the same problem since I was dxed in Febuary of this year. For example, if I rise at 6:00 am and immediately take my BS, it is usually between 90 and 100. If I wait 45 minutes it will be between 110 and 140. It is maddening and will ruin my whole day. I've read tons of books on the subject but the best I have found is by Richard Bernstein "Diabetes Solutions". He will go into some detail about the phenomenon and explains what is going on. BTW he has a web site that you may want to visit. There is plenty to read there. I forget the link but do a search with the information above. Anyway it is called the Dawn Phenomenon.
I can beat mine by immeadiately eating (low carb) when I rise or, lately, by taking ALA and evening primrose oil before bed. Be careful taking these suppleiments because they will lower your BS. If you are on insulin it can be dangerous. Also you need to take biotin with them as they seem to strip biotin from the body.
Some people take short acting insulin to combat the problem.
The funny thing about Dawn Phenomenon is only type 1 diabetics are supposed to experience it but I found out it is common in type 2s.
Hope this helps.

BYU Barry

[duck]

Barry, I disagree as well that DP only happens in Type-1s, in my theory A LOT of human beings "suffer" from it, but "normal" human beings have mechanisms in place to deal with rising blood sugars.

I say this all the time on this forum, but for those of you who suffer from DP, are you "morning people"? It seems others here who suffer from it generally are morning people--The rise in sugar has to be tied to your bodies revving it up to start your day. I am not a morning person, and I can sleep all day, and I do not suffer from DP.

[byu barry]

Yep Duck, something about our evolution and getting up to hunt wooly mammoths or chopping firewood. At any rate I've never heard anybody say anything good about it and it is a pain me.

BYU Barry