New Device I'd Like

[EdnBama]

I would like some type of device that would provide continuous or near continuous monitoring of glucose levels.I'm envisioning some kind of an implant through which blood could flow and be tested at whatever interval the user configured.

Results could be transmitted by RF to a device that would store the data ... and in the upscale model, even provide alerts if the rate of bg change was extreme or the person went up or below target readings.

[camjen1]

Where have you been with all the talk of the Guardian RT? I have no problem with you spending the money first to get the RT that way after you use it we can decide whether it's worth it or not. :laugh:

[EdnBama]

Is this device already on the market?

[camjen1]

Yes, but really only to selected areas. I got a packet that said it was available in my area but heck I live in the middle of nowhere so I'm sure it is available everywhere else.

[camjen1]

I failed to mention that the RT is almost like a pump and has to be worn on the outside and is not implantable. You have a sensor that is placed by you just under the skin ever 3 days.

[EdnBama]

I just read up on the product. It looks like a good system ... but not quite the same as what's on my wish list. The main difference is I'm thinking something that is implantable, rather than something a person with diabetes would have to wear.

[EdnBama]

I failed to mention that the RT is almost like a pump and has to be worn on the outside and is not implantable. You have a sensor that is placed by you just under the skin ever 3 days.

GMTA!

You and I posted these at about the same time without knowing what each other was posting!

[JediSkipdogg]

Is this device already on the market?

Kinda, the Guardian RT works like an insulin pump in that you have to put part of it under the skin. It then takes a reading every 5 minutes and reports that reading to you. However, the disadvantages are pretty great at this time.

Disadvantages include:
~Unit itself runs around $4000 and is hard to be approved by insurance companies since it's so new, but that's not as bad as the next cost...
~The sensors are exactly like infusion sets for the insulin pumps. They need to be moved every 3 days max or they build up resistance and give bad readings. The cost of these sensors is $40 a piece. And if you insert one wrong, guess what, you just blew $40.
~The sensors need to be moved every 3 days. However, the sensors can be bad 12 hours before it alerts you that it's bad. Therefore you can have 12 hours of innacurate results.
~You still have to do BG tests to calibrate the machine. It takes at least 2 tests a day to calibrate.
~It will not give a reading above 400 or below 40 (I am not 100% sure on the 40 though.) Also, it is only about 80% accurate at 60 and it greatly drops off the lower you go.

Therefore this unit isn't a great investment for anyone in my opinion.

[EdnBama]

Kind of makes my wish list still viable then.

Kinda, the Guardian RT works like an insulin pump in that you have to put part of it under the skin. It then takes a reading every 5 minutes and reports that reading to you. However, the disadvantages are pretty great at this time.

Disadvantages include:
~Unit itself runs around $4000 and is hard to be approved by insurance companies since it's so new, but that's not as bad as the next cost...
~The sensors are exactly like infusion sets for the insulin pumps. They need to be moved every 3 days max or they build up resistance and give bad readings. The cost of these sensors is $40 a piece. And if you insert one wrong, guess what, you just blew $40.
~The sensors need to be moved every 3 days. However, the sensors can be bad 12 hours before it alerts you that it's bad. Therefore you can have 12 hours of innacurate results.
~You still have to do BG tests to calibrate the machine. It takes at least 2 tests a day to calibrate.
~It will not give a reading above 400 or below 40 (I am not 100% sure on the 40 though.) Also, it is only about 80% accurate at 60 and it greatly drops off the lower you go.

Therefore this unit isn't a great investment for anyone in my opinion.

[JediSkipdogg]

I just read up on the product. It looks like a good system ... but not quite the same as what's on my wish list. The main difference is I'm thinking something that is implantable, rather than something a person with diabetes would have to wear.

Animas is developing one of those and is hoping to have it ready by 2007. Check out the Animas website.

[camjen1]

Animas is developing one of those and is hoping to have it ready by 2007. Check out the Animas website.


2007, now where is that fingers taping on the desk smilie?

[camjen1]

What is the actual name of the Animas sight? I got a quilting sight. :nerd:

[mark-TN]

How about 28,800 glucose readings a day:
Glucon's Aprise (http://salesandmarketingnetwork.com/news_release.php?ID=2008374)

[JediSkipdogg]

What is the actual name of the Animas sight? I got a quilting sight. :nerd:

Oh yeah, forgot about that. LOL.

http://animascorp.com/

http://animascorp.com/products/pr_glucosesensor.shtml is the actual link for the sensor.

THey don't say the year on that, but the nice part is they have been working on one item since 1997 to perfect it. Whereas Minimed has been working on the Guardian system for quite a while and they still haven't perfected it.

I guess in my mind, I'd rather see a product be worked on long term to perfect it rather than 15 models come out in the same time frame that consumers can buy that all aren't perfected.

The only disadvantage with the Animas one is it is not 100% lifetime. It has to be replaced every 5 years they think because of battery life. I guess they could may make a nuclear battery and put that in a person. LOL.

[nantomsuethom]

I was talking with an Animas rep a few weeks ago and was told that there are people already using this device for trials. I told him that I would sign Thomas up for the trial. He said that a lot of the staff at the main headquarters, in PA, are diabetics and they are the ones trying out right now.

[BJC411]

Im going to be part of a cbgm study in early Dec. so I will let you all know what went down. My endo is also going to put me on a cbgm in late Dec. but they didnt say for how long.

[JediSkipdogg]

Im going to be part of a cbgm study in early Dec. so I will let you all know what went down. My endo is also going to put me on a cbgm in late Dec. but they didnt say for how long.

For which company?

[prue]

EdnBama,
I am an RF design engineer. I would like to hear more about your ideas on an implantable BG monitor. RF technology is shrinking each day. Maybe it's time to cobble one together.
Prue (in Memphis)

[prue]

My email address: cehinds@att.net

[BJC411]

They didnt say but when I find out Ill let you know. Probably BD.

[HealthWatch]

Here at the University of California, Berkeley, we are working on a similar device that is less unweildy. It uses microneedles that are small enough that they don't penetrate the nerve so you don't feel it. And it is much smaller than the one by animas. You still have to wear it, but it is just like a regular wristwatch.

We have a poll to gauge interest in the product so we can put together the technology in a device that can go to market.

Please respond to a short poll.

http://www.my3q.com/go.php?url=ieor190a/10604

Thank you.

[donkeyhotay]

I didn't see this mentioned, (I just skimmed through some of the messages), but there is also the Glucoband (http://www.calistomedical.com/eng/?p=glucoband) non-invasive device coming, perhaps as early as 2007.