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BriOnH
01-19-2006, 02:21 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4623622.stm

This headline is in a bunch of different online news orgs today. Would you want this cure if it meant takin immunosuppresants.

I can't call having to take immunosuppreant drugs a cure.

others with basically the same info but more inticing headline:
http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=7209
http://www.rxpgnews.com/research/endocrinology/diabetes/article_3143.shtml
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=224338&cat=Health

EdnBama
01-19-2006, 02:39 PM
I find this to be the most asinine comment:

"They (diabetics) need some hope, they need to have something to work towards. It's good for us to be able to give them some information about islet cell transplantation."

Granted, I'm not type 1 - but as noted by others on this forum in previous threads, even if this procedure works, the time-table for implementing it and the costs involved will put the procedure out of reach of the vast majority of diabetics. Therefore, while the "cure" can obviously be of value - and there may be hope in the abstract for the diabetic community as a whole (especially future generations) - I don't think there's much real "hope" given in terms of one's personal interest at this point in time as is suggested by the comment.

someone
01-19-2006, 02:39 PM
They have done that before, but I agree, taking anti-rejection drugs is not is cure. What if you forget to take them.. you would have to get another transplant.

EdnBama
01-19-2006, 02:42 PM
Here's a different article on the same topic:

http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=7209

rzrbks
01-19-2006, 03:07 PM
Nope, not interested UNLESS my control goes to garbage.

While,I do know people who are impaired because they didn't/couldn't control their Diabetes, I also know people who were able to keep good control and did just fine up until they died at a Ripe Ol' Age.

That's my plan, take it real slow up until I die, then I'll taper off.

jenet
01-19-2006, 05:08 PM
Not without knowing a heck of a lot more of what the possible risks are (real risks - not theoretical). D has its risks, but at least I know what they are and can take positive actions to manage them.

cheers,
j

Carwy
01-19-2006, 06:13 PM
They have done that before, but I agree, taking anti-rejection drugs is not is cure. What if you forget to take them.. you would have to get another transplant.
If you forgot to take your anti-rejection drugs you would end up in the hospital. Where they could give you high doses of steroids to help you live while they got your anti-rejection drugs back at the right dose. There is a great percentage that you will also die from something else. Having a compromised immune system is no fun. We (Dewey and I) worry about everything when we go out now. If someone is coughing or sneezing we look around to see who it is and where they are at so I can leave the area.

someone
01-19-2006, 06:36 PM
If you forgot the anti rejection drugs wouldn't your body reject the cells!?

Carwy
01-19-2006, 06:57 PM
If you forgot the anti rejection drugs wouldn't your body reject the cells!?
Yes and it would make you sick. Because either your body would reject and attack the cells (host-versus-graft disease) or the cells could attack your body(graft-versus-host disease).

Harold
01-19-2006, 11:40 PM
Conditional No! For some it may not be a choice to have any type of reasonable control with out it.

am1977
01-20-2006, 05:49 AM
Not without knowing a heck of a lot more of what the possible risks are (real risks - not theoretical). D has its risks, but at least I know what they are and can take positive actions to manage them.

cheers,
j

:dito:- J stole my answer, lol. I actually didn't vote, b/c I think I would need a "maybe" option.

I wouldn't necessarily rule it out, but like J. said, I'd need to know all the risks involved before agreeing to this. If the risks outweigh the reward, it's not worth it. :thumpdown:

KickStart101
01-20-2006, 09:00 AM
If you have to take drugs for a disease then that's not a cure. I voted
"Yes" since I've been on an anti-rejection(immunosuppressant)
drug for almost 7 yrs. for severe RA., so it wouldn't make a difference
to me. Actually my Rheumatologist asked me last week if I wanted to
enter a study for 2 other drugs so he could get me off the immuno-
suppresant. One of them was in the same family as Vioxx. So I reminded
him of the last few months on Vioxx, the pains I was getting in my heart
before it was removed from the market. And now the pains are gone. I
haven't decided on the study yet so I left it open. UGH! Drugs!!.

BriOnH
01-20-2006, 09:41 AM
Personally I am still hoping Microislet's product comes on the market within the next 2 years. I never have had hope in any cures or non-injection treatments. However, I probably have more hope than I should in this one. Plus I bought a 1000 shares of stock in 'em, so if the product does make it on the market, the first thing I am going to do is cash in, buy a big boat, and drink a REAL mt dew. Lots of it! lol. You are all invited too. Instead of 'Booze Cruise', it will be a 'Sugar Cruise', with booze of course.

http://www.microislet.com/technology/index.htm

KickStart101
01-20-2006, 10:30 AM
Hey Brion: Well, when I was a Kid I was told I'd live to about age 30
35 yrs. old and this, that and the other thing would happen to me. I
didn't think much about it since 35 was very old when I was little. Then
I got into life and I didn't think about it since I didn't have time. I did most
of the things I wanted to. I'm still doing pretty good and I still don't think
much about it. A Cure that is.
I believe someone in a small over-looked Country has been working on a
Cure for years now and they will be the "Ones". That's what I think. Weird
eh?.
I hope the Microislets product comes out also. The more the merrier. No
bad reason for a Party. That sounds like Fun. :D I like Mountain Dew(named
after Mountain Dewey). :D Best Of Luck on Cashing in. :top: ;)

bac4uw
01-30-2006, 01:04 PM
No. Not unless things go drastically south. I have to admit that I feel pretty ignorant to the side effects of immunosuppressive drugs - but I've always had the mindset that they increase your risk of certain types of cancers. Again, bad ignorance, I don't really know if this is the case. Despite this, my ignorance will likely prevail!

Bryan