They still don't get it

[karen]

Saw a news clip on inhaled insulin.

They stated the biggest plus is to help diabetics with adversion to needles.

They so don't get that the shots are not the issue.

Karen

[Mark C]

The news report here did state that "we" must still bleed while testing our glucose levels. :shot:

[vrocco1]

I don't see where the needles, or the finger pricks are the problem. I just do it mostly without thinking about it.

Now, carrying that stupid inhaler around. That's a problem. I think they found an excellent solution to a non-problem. I wish them luck!

[jenet]

I'm not fond of the finger sticks, but that inhaler looks like much more trouble than it's worth. I hope it helps others, because I'm always in favor of more choices.

I'm headed towards a pump for more control, something I doubt I could get with the inhaled insulin and Lantus (which I actively dislike). YMMV

cheers,
j

[am1977]

Personally, I still hate needles :nurse:...so the inhalable insulin is a step in the right direction, but I still don't think I'll be trying it myself...at least not right away. I don't see how inhaling insulin into your lungs could be good. I mean, who knows what the long term effects of doing that will be? I'll wait until they are a little more certain it's safe.

[Belinda]

The NBC news report I heard was about adversion to the shot, and some didn't like the pill.....ok....if there was a pill to control my T! then that would be what I did but there isn't. I think it is geared towards T2's that are aprehensive about taking insulin shots when they have the choice of a pill.....to me it made it sound like diabetes is cured with an inhaler....NOT...also they said the long term effects on the lungs are not known yet and there would be some type of paper to sign........yep I am sticking with my pump

[DeusXM]

Of course 'they' won't get it. Think back to when you were first diagnosed. What was the really big thing that worried you the most?

I'm willing to bet that it was the prospect of having to inject regularly.

Of course, once you're in the big D club, you realise the actual treating-your-condition part is the easy part. It's ensuring that treatment's effective which is the tricky bit.

In any case, like most people I'll stick with injections for now - with a jab, you know precisely how much insulin you're getting. I'm not entirely sure that an open delivery system such as inhaling will be totally suitable for precise dosing.

[David]

Of course, once you're in the big D club, you realise the actual treating-your-condition part is the easy part. It's ensuring that treatment's effective which is the tricky bit.

A big agreement from me. Most of us know how tricky accurate insulin dosing for carbs and having it work consistently is. Is inhaling insulin going to improve that at all? How precise is dosing with an inhaler? I suspect not very, because of
1. individual lung issues 2. incorrect inhaling technique and 3. coughing or sneezing after inhaling and having no way of knowing how much you've just expelled.

David

[BriOnH]

Karen, you couldn't be more right imo. They think its the pain of an injection that is one of our biggest hurdles?? Please. I, and I think many here would agree, that that's hardly an issue. It's about control. Making it easier to control glucose levels, and it sounds like this inhaler could actually make that more difficult.

[duck]

Karen, you couldn't be more right imo. They think its the pain of an injection that is one of our biggest hurdles?? Please. I, and I think many here would agree, that that's hardly an issue. It's about control. Making it easier to control glucose levels, and it sounds like this inhaler could actually make that more difficult.

But it's going to make someone lotsa MONEY!!!!!!!!

[karen]

All I meant that this inhaler is another form of insulin delivery and not a cure. They also stated in this news segment that they have been working on inhaled insulin since the discovery of insulin and I just wish time and money was spent on other means to maybe not cure diabetes but to help with highs and lows and to have some sort of smart insulin or measuring device that would measure my bgs and dose insulin to fix my highs more normally.

The news segment was on the Today show yesterday and they focused on the help this could be for Type 2's who did not want to start taking insulin because of shots and they made it sound like this would be so helpful to them, which perhaps it would be, but it never mentioned how this insulin delivery could still cause a low, how it could perhaps cause lung problems, etc.

I need researchers to focus on something other than just the delivery of insulin, that is the easy part. No one outside of this disease gets the reality of this disease, of the anxiety of going low, of the emotional wear and tear of having highs and knowing your body is being damaged, of the dizziness and not feeling quite right as you fluctuate between these highs and lows, that was my point. We need something other than a new way of getting the insulin in our system, we need a better form of measuring bgs and insulin dosages and keeping our body and bgs steady and functioning as close to normal as possible to avoid complications.

I know there are worse things in life to have, but this is a diabetic board and I was just speaking from my 38 years of having a 24/7 disease.

[JediSkipdogg]

A segment I saw put the piece in a different turn and the report actually DID NOT recommend the inhaler for diabetics under control methods now. The reporter stated that 15% of diabetics that REQUIRE insulin are not treating themselves because of needle fears. Not sure where they got that percent at, but it could be believable. The reporter then went on that he only recommended the inhalable insulin for those 15% and he even interviewed a doctor that said for the time being her will only prescribe it as a last resort.

[duck]

All I meant that this inhaler is another form of insulin delivery and not a cure. They also stated in this news segment that they have been working on inhaled insulin since the discovery of insulin and I just wish time and money was spent on other means to maybe not cure diabetes but to help with highs and lows and to have some sort of smart insulin or measuring device that would measure my bgs and dose insulin to fix my highs more normally.

The news segment was on the Today show yesterday and they focused on the help this could be for Type 2's who did not want to start taking insulin because of shots and they made it sound like this would be so helpful to them, which perhaps it would be, but it never mentioned how this insulin delivery could still cause a low, how it could perhaps cause lung problems, etc.

I need researchers to focus on something other than just the delivery of insulin, that is the easy part. No one outside of this disease gets the reality of this disease, of the anxiety of going low, of the emotional wear and tear of having highs and knowing your body is being damaged, of the dizziness and not feeling quite right as you fluctuate between these highs and lows, that was my point. We need something other than a new way of getting the insulin in our system, we need a better form of measuring bgs and insulin dosages and keeping our body and bgs steady and functioning as close to normal as possible to avoid complications.

I know there are worse things in life to have, but this is a diabetic board and I was just speaking from my 38 years of having a 24/7 disease.


I think we all agree with you, my sarcasm about the forthcoming cure/what "they" are researching gets the best of me, though...:dong:

[Mdude]

It sounds like they didn't ask any diabetics what they need to develop. We don't need pink testers for girls or huge inhalers that provide an inconsistent dosage. These would be acceptable, though:


1. An all-out cure using stem cells.
2. A pill for type 1 that can be taken discreetly.
3. An internal pump that doesn't protrude or need to be refilled, and determines the bg on its own.


Bill Gates was talking about incentivizing various health initiatives in the countries in which he's doing his immunization work. He made an important point that at some points, Capitalism breaks down.

Maybe what we need to do is focus on providing the incentives necessary to get companies working on actual cures. I'm not a bilionaire, so I'm not actually sure how to go about this, but it's clear that if money is the only thing these companies respect, they'll need money to actually work on real cures and not just play around with this inhaler junk.

[someone]

I'm willing to bet that it was the prospect of having to inject regularly.

Of course, once you're in the big D club, you realise the actual treating-your-condition part is the easy part. It's ensuring that treatment's effective which is the tricky bit.

Those who are currently in the "big D club" might not want to use it, but what about those who are new to the "big D club"? I know when I was first diagnosed, I would have gone for this faster than you could snap your fingers. Now, it is a different story, and I would completely agree with you that injections are not the biggest problem. This would just add another variable to tight control.

Exubera probably realizes this, and is probably going to target those newbies.

[rzrbks]

Mdude

It sounds like they didn't ask any diabetics what they need to develop. We don't need pink testers for girls or huge inhalers that provide an inconsistent dosage. These would be acceptable, though:

The charm of Capitalism at it's Finest.

"Give the Masses what WE think they need."

[notme]

A bright yellow or pink meter case would be appreciated by me!!! Always losing the darn black thing. :hmmmm:

[kgm0612]

Taking the words from Bob on another diabetes board that I am a member of......

"NO NEW DELIVERY SYSTEMS"

"WORK ON A CURE"

[Irish_Fiona]

I'm all for the inhalor. I've been diabetic eighteen years and have hardened skin on my stomach, I do a lot of excercise and as a result don't have any fat on my legs, so it REALLY hurts when I try to do it there. I was quite happy to hear about this.

Fiona

[duck]

I'm all for the inhalor. I've been diabetic eighteen years and have hardened skin on my stomach, I do a lot of excercise and as a result don't have any fat on my legs, so it REALLY hurts when I try to do it there. I was quite happy to hear about this.

Fiona

I hope to one day say something similar to "I don't have any fat..." somewhere. LOL

[BriOnH]

This method of delivery reminds me of the airguns they used to hype in the 80's. They would shoot insulin into the skin via an air blast. Supposedly a 'painless' injection. I never experienced it. Anyone know what happened with that?

[duck]

This method of delivery reminds me of the airguns they used to hype in the 80's. They would shoot insulin into the skin via an air blast. Supposedly a 'painless' injection. I never experienced it. Anyone know what happened with that?

insulinjet.com, my friend. There are other companies as well. My parents actually got me one back in the early 90's, and I only made it through the initial phase, testing only with the supplied saline solution. The stuff leaked out of me in copious amounts, and even back then I knew that couldn't be any good for control. So my parents ate the $50 restocking fee and sent it back. Good idea, bad execution back then.

[rzrbks]

duck

I hope to one day say something similar to "I don't have any fat..." somewhere. LOL

See, duck, if you was a real "AtHalete" you'd not have that problem.

For instance: When I finish my lunch, I take the container to my car------all of 65 yards away. Then, I walk All the way around the building to the back door (a brisk 2:15 minute walk)------see, with that much exercise every day, I'll Never get over-weight :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[duck]

See, duck, if you was a real "AtHalete" you'd not have that problem.

For instance: When I finish my lunch, I take the container to my car------all of 65 yards away. Then, I walk All the way around the building to the back door (a brisk 2:15 minute walk)------see, with that much exercise every day, I'll Never get over-weight :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I worked out this morning...I must have hit that snooze button ten times, and now my right arm is tired.

[rzrbks]

duck
I worked out this morning...I must have hit that snooze button ten times, and now my right arm is tired.

My apologies----Obviously more studly than I assumed. My work-out routine as well.:thumbsup: :congrats: