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Eri's mom
03-22-2006, 10:28 PM
Hi again...
OK...Eri's sugars are totally changing again.
Granted, she's had a HI reading and some in the high 3 and 4 hundreds, but now she is dipping low...especially late night and morning...heck, even during the day. (and those higher readings, we're watching what she eats b/c of this higher fiber diet, etc...an example...she was 478 the other night and took her insulin and woke up and was 107...last night, her reading, when I took it around 12:30am, was 428, and she woke up at 6:45 am and was 41).
Today was her first day back to school in about 3 months(YAY!!!) and I woke her up and she kept walking in circles telling me she was ready(she was still in her pj's) and I took her bg, she was 41mg/dL. UGH...got about 6 oz of juice and then 1 1/2 capri suns and 2 tiny pieces of those dove candies and a rice crispies treat(ok, not extremely nutritional)...her bg only went up to 128 3 hours later...and then she was 70 something after school...
Is this normal to keep changing so much? I know she's going through a lot, and these are the adolescent years, and that they keep telling me puberty and diabetes are no fun together, but it's to the point again of checking her bg's in the middle of the night so no shock or seizure(she usually went into shock or seizure between midnight and 3:30am OR around 3/3:30 pm when she was having seizures all the time)...strange. And now she is back to that same thing.
If she's low like that again tomorrow, I'm going to call her endo...see if they want to readjust her insulin.
Has anyone else had this happen, or something similar?
Also, someone had told me that headaches are related to high cholesterol...and Eri's came back, to what they consider, high...has anyone heard of that theory?
Sorry for being so long winded and such a pain!!!

am1977
03-23-2006, 06:45 AM
I'm sure adolescence is playing a hand in it... I wasn't diabetic during that time in life, but I know others have said that controlling blood sugar was more difficult.

Robin, how long has this been going on with the highs and then her dropping low like that? If it's only been a couple days, I wouldn't ask for adjustments to be made. If it's been an ongoing thing, that's different. I just think to constantly be adjusting and changing Eri's doses will only create more problems. IMO, there could be whole host of reasons why her levels are fluctuating and to constantly be changing things up will make it difficult for her to adapt to her doses.

Anyway, It's good to know Eri's back at school. Please do continue to keep us posted with everything :) We're thinking of you!

Belinda
03-23-2006, 07:00 AM
IT happened to me when I was going through puberty....I was hospitalized more than I wanted to be...we measured everything, did exercise, checked BS (urine back then) and then I could wake up in the middle of the night and be vomiting etc...ROAD TRIP to the ER....which was 45 mins away...I know if we could have checked my bs in the middle of the night we would have but that required going to the bathroom.....which I can't do on call...but if it helps get up and check her BS at 2-3 in the morning or what ever the time is that you think it is going haywire...good luck.

Eri's mom
03-23-2006, 07:30 AM
Thanks :)
Yep, checked her, she wasn't too low at that time.
This morning at 7 am, she was 34. UGH...first all those highs, now this...again.
I'm just waiting to hear back from the CDE...see what she has to say.

Thanks again!!!

psilocybin
03-23-2006, 07:39 AM
wow im surprised puberty has such a huge effect on BS

Mick
03-23-2006, 08:15 AM
Puberty IS a major destabilizing factor in BG control for certain. Not sure how my readings ever looked during that period of my own life, as that was years before we had meters, but I DO recall MANY lows, some of which would cause my parents to worry about my whereabouts and safety. I might get lost walking home from the bus stop, or go low at school and just wander out the door and into town, and occasionally wake up low in the dead of night, and somehow find my way to the front door and just walk out of the house. I think I gave my parents a good number of frights during those years. After I gort my driver's license it got even worse (something I'm sure you do not want to hear!), as I could have the same kind of reactions while behind the wheel--not know where I was going, getting lost, etc. So, I'm sure I was running between 40-60 a lot of the time--not sure how high I might have been as well--no way to ever tell. I did sometimes get 4+ urine tests, and I'm sure that must be at least in the 300's. These up and down roller coaster rides often have little or no relation to anything we do--not food, not exercise, and not insulin. It just seems to go that way. I don't know what to say except that, somehow, we do survive. It takes a lot of tough work to keep a diabetic child safe and healthy throughout puberty and adolescence. We tend to walk very close to the edge of a steep cliff...

Maybe Eri should learn to meditate--I will tell you that saved my life. Let me know--We'll talk. I am a teacher of meditation, and could train her some time.

good luck and hang in there...
Michael

psilocybin
03-23-2006, 08:24 AM
Meditate?????
no offence or anything but how will that help her man...shes going through puberty...how will meditating change that? and trust me i highly doubt eri will want to meditate. shes young and has her mind set on doing other things. it is extremely hard to find a younger individual meditating. since your a teacher u would believe "ya it saved my life"

i didnt mean for this to sound rude, i didnt know how else to re word this

Eri's mom
03-23-2006, 10:36 AM
Ah, the joys of puberty, eh?
Eri does the same thing and I've found her wandering(so has teachers)...freaky. Thank God her bedroom door squeaks when she opens it and it wakes me instantly.
I told her she has to prove total control to get her license(thank God here in NY it is more like 17 when they can drive alone/alone...in FL, it's 15 for permit, 16 for license)...I think she's starting to stress a bit over it. I can just look at her and know she is low...that crazed look in her eyes. She was a bit argumentative this morning when I tried to give her the juice, but she did drink SOME of it...she prefers the capri sun, so I always have a bunch of those around.
As for meditation, anything is worth a try!!! Thanks for offering!!! :)
I know if she goes low at school and ended up wandering or in complete hypo shock or, worse, seizure, she would FREAK and never want to go back to school(or that one)...I hate sending her out the door when she's had such a low morning, but she HAS to be back at school.

Mick
03-23-2006, 06:42 PM
psilocybin--

Don't worry about being rude--it is nearly impossible to offend me. Worry more about being ignorant! Meditation works in many inter-related ways, and has decades of extensive experimental data to prove it. The emotional and physical changes brought about through the regular practice of meditation have been well-documented, beginning in the early 1970's, when Dr. Herbert Benson of Harvard and Dr. R. Keith Wallace published their seminal study, "The Relaxation Response." Hundreds of further clinical studies have documented such changes as decrease in stress hormones, increase in brain coherence, better memory, lowered blood pressure, increased resistance to infections and the list goes on and on. For a diabetic, it comes down to a few important reesults. We all know that stress can raise--in sometimes unpredictable ways--our blood sugars. By reducing the level of stress in the body, meditation can even out many of the ups and downs of blood sugar due to the action of stress hormones. Also, by boosting immunity to diseases and infections, the body becomes overall healthier, and a healthier body tolerates diabetes much better than a compromised one. There is an overlapping accumulation of affects which cause the meditating diabetic to just plain last longer and be better-controlled, in both the short and long terms. Having been diabetic for 40 years, and a meditator for 35 of those years--WITH NO MAJOR DIABETIC COMPLICATIONS WHATSOEVER--I can claim with little doubt that a good deal of my success is due to meditation. Also, because diabetes requires a tremendous amount of self-dicipline and control, attitude and emotions also play a big role in our self-care. A happy, confidant and fulfilled diabetic is a better-controlled one. And meditation also bulids those qualities, helping one become more inner-directed, more self-reliant, more confidant and more fulfilled.

As for a young person wanting or needing to meditate, age is not an issue. I recently taught my son his adult meditation technique--he's 15 1/2 now. He enjoys his twice-daily 15 minutes of silence, and seldom will miss a session. He immidiately experienced the deep rest, release of stress and concurrent increase in energy and concentration in his daily activity. Within a month of his learning, he went out, found himself a job, and has kept up not only his straight-A schoolwork and his meditation, but also a dozen hours a week as a supermarket cashier. I'm not selling anything here--I'm only offering some help.

Michael

vrocco1
03-23-2006, 07:25 PM
Eri's Mom, They're holding a special place in heaven for you. It's wonderful how active you are in Eri's care. As an adult, I am familiar with the effects of stress on my BGL. I can't imagine what raging hormonal changes might do.

am1977
03-23-2006, 08:00 PM
psilocybin--

Don't worry about being rude--it is nearly impossible to offend me.
Michael


Hmmm, :hmmmm:, does this sound like a bit of a challange to anyone? LOL :laugh:




Just kidding :biggrin:

Cinnabon
03-23-2006, 09:56 PM
Robin,

My heart is w/ you both. A big hug to my lil Greys Anatomy.. lol
Puberty takes a toll... Been there looooooooooooooong time ago & diabetic... blah!

How about some Ballet classes, yoga.. something easy on her yet distracting....

Eri's mom
03-23-2006, 10:57 PM
:)

The little(ok, she's almost as tall as me now) twerp wanted to play lacrosse...lol...she's so competitive when it comes to sports...
My fil wants to get us a membership to the Y, so I have been talking to her about yoga or something together...she's actually almost interested :)...she has actually read up on pilates, so we shall see!!! :)

(Oh, and TY again for the Grey's Anatomy!!! I can't even sneeze during that program, she's so into it...lol)