proper forum etiquette

[marked]

Well., so I guess, I am too brutal and appearing harsh. I am only left to guess, but I would guess that is the thinking. Oh well, maybe I am. But nonetheless, my heart is not. Diabetes can turn one into some positive spin denial kind thing or “you should be this way” kind of rhetoric is acceptable. It can make you codependant, which is acceptable. It can make you depressed, which is acceptable. Being frustrated is allowable and “controlled” rants are even acceptable. But if it makes you angry or if you hate this disease with every fiber of your being, this is not acceptable, I guess. Well I propose this: Maybe all feelings are acceptable and be spoken about honestly. Are we so afraid or flames or disagreements that any negative emotion be ignored? If that is true this forum is worthless Maybe being brutal is totally acceptable, maybe hurt and hard feelings should be expressed rather than pushed down. As long as it is done with respect and a pure heart, maybe that would be beneficial to all. But far be it from me to determine forum protocol, just my opinion. Over and out. By the way, my a1c was 5.4. Yea!

Mark

[duck]

What did I miss? As long as you don't attack anyone/purposely offend anyone (and follow the forum rules as laid out my the admin team), we're free to ***** about this *&%*#(*#$ disease. So what's up?

[sydneya]

Hey, Mark!! I detect a little bad feeling here. I have posted bad and good feeling. I've posted when angry, depressed, sad, and just needing answers. I've never felt that my comments and questions were not taken seriously. Sometimes I had to read a posting twice to pick up the true meaning because the written language is not perfect. Sometimes I've reread a posting I've written and realized it didn't come out right. I did not detect any harshness from your postings--anger, maybe; but not harshness.

I searched using "marked" through the postings, and I just didn't pick up on what you were talking about. Please let us know where you are coming from. Your info is valuable to us, I hope that ours can be of help to you. By the way, I do get very angry about what this disease can do to us. I do get depressed and just plain mad. And I, too, belief we need to express our feelings whether they are good or bad.

[DeusXM]

I'm just blunt. If people don't like it, then they don't have to read my posts. There's a difference between being tactless and being just plain rude.

[Mister Q]

Way I look on it treat others as you wish to be treated, criticise but dont abuse and never be rude. One of the problems with communication through a forum is its all text based and you get no verbal inflections or body language hints as to the way a statement is made or meant to be received. Was told several years ago around 80% of all communication is non verbal, so chop that out and your bound to get mis-understandings.

Free speech should be encouraged as it part of democracy if others dont agree with viewpoints expressed they are free to say so or not to read.

In my experience if you said something as innocent as Good Morning to enough people one of them would take offence for a reason you never intended!

And BG swings do seem to put peeps in real odd moods, I have had some real odd moods when my readings appear 'normal'

[am1977]

I'm sorry if you feel like you've had to hold back...

I guess I don't see things the way you do, I think this forum DOES allow members to be completely honest. That's really the whole purpose of this place- to allow people to express whatever we are feeling with this disease whether good :thumbsup:, bad:thumpdown, or indifferent :s:. Hopefully, through expressing ourselves, others can reply and offer support, encouragement, advice, or info. Yeah, sometimes we don't always agree, but I think as long as we are respectful and adults about it, that that's okay too.

I know I've done my fair share of ranting and *****ing :argh:. I firmly believe that getting things out in the open and venting really helps. Keeping things bottled up :hmpf: usually makes things worse, well, for me anyway. I've posted during some really tough times and thankfully this forum and, most importantly, the people have really helped me get through it all.

[duck]

Way I look on it treat others as you wish to be treated, criticise but dont abuse and never be rude. One of the problems with communication through a forum is its all text based and you get no verbal inflections or body language hints as to the way a statement is made or meant to be received. Was told several years ago around 80% of all communication is non verbal, so chop that out and your bound to get mis-understandings.

Free speech should be encouraged as it part of democracy if others dont agree with viewpoints expressed they are free to say so or not to read.

In my experience if you said something as innocent as Good Morning to enough people one of them would take offence for a reason you never intended!
And BG swings do seem to put peeps in real odd moods, I have had some real odd moods when my readings appear 'normal'

Yeah, I'd ask you "what's so good about it???" :mad:


:coffee:

[Mister Q]

Yeah, I'd ask you "what's so good about it???" :mad:


Most days you would have a point!

[Aftiel]

Hey Mark,

I admit I am a little lost on the subject of your post.

Plenty have expressed anger, depression, etc. at the disease AND doctors. If you mean we should rip into or flame each other - well, that isn't something that has really come up.

I'm not sure I see the point.

As far as the forums being worthless without flames, I could not DISAGREE more - the amount of good information here is amazing.

Information doesn't have to be presented with an attitude that sucks to be pertinent.

- Aftiel

[TAutry]

Hello Marked,

Like the others, I may have missed something. If you believe you have been unfairly censored in some way, please contact me, Tony or one of the other Moderators.

Diabetesforums.com is a privately owned, operated and administrated forum. It was established by Tony as a positive place for those of us with diabetes to meet and discuss topics relating to our conditions. The forum has certain rules which govern what can and cannot be posted, as well as, what is acceptable conduct.

We welcome open, honest discussion. We welcome rants, raves and complaints. We even encourage them. We do not welcome and do not tolerate advertising, vulgarity or personal attacks. It is expected and required that everyone who participates here be respectful of other members.

[KickStart101]

The way I take his post is that he feels other people aren't
being honest about their feelings of having Diabetes, we should
all be saying how much we hate Diabetes.

Mark, I've had Diabetes so long believe me I'm used to it. I
hated it when I was a teen-ager and in my 20's. I didn't get
depressed about it but I did get mad and peed-off that's for sure.
My youngest Brother was even madder about it than I was, but
we dealt with it in our own way. I heard him swear a few times
and I threw my brush at my mirror one time when I was 14 yrs.
and broke a big piece off of it. Of course, I had to paint all the
wood and rim a purple background with silver stars, and smiley faces
hoping Mom wouldn't notice. She did. :D Would you believe that
dresser with the broken mirror and painting is still in my room? She
didn't ever want me to forget that memory so I'd look back at it and
smile. And I still do each time I see it and see how far I've come.
Blah! Blah! I know female stuff. Everyone deals with it in their own
good way and time. It takes many yrs. but you will arrive at your
good point.

If you read the Hypothyroidism thread, I have it and I have the symptom
of placidity. Thank God. It has to be something Bad in Life to bother me
and Yes, those do come up occasionally. Or if someone says some here or
there that IRKS me, maybe I'll let loose, maybe I won't. Depends what mood
I'm in.

Sorry, this was so long Mark. If I misunderstood your meaning, please disregard
most of this crappy post. :)

Oh, and you do have to learn how to control you bg levels, of course, most of the
time. That will make you feel alot better. 5.4 is Very Good. You just need time.

[Penny]

The reason I like (love) this forum, is that I can talk about anything here. I can be mad, happy or sad, sick or well, and I seem to be accepted. If I need help, I can always find it, not just about Diabetes, either. We do seem to almost be like a family, we encourage each other, chastise when it is needed, share each others sadness and joy. It is a great place to be. I would not want to be here too often if all we did was rant about Diabetes!
Marked, could you explain what is bothering you, so maybe we can fix things....that is what families do.

[Tatermom]

The reason I like (love) this forum, is that I can talk about anything here. I can be mad, happy or sad, sick or well, and I seem to be accepted. If I need help, I can always find it, not just about Diabetes, either. We do seem to almost be like a family, we encourage each other, chastise when it is needed, share each others sadness and joy. It is a great place to be. I would not want to be here too often if all we did was rant about Diabetes!

:dito:

Where did all this come from anyway? :eek:

[Penny]

:dito:

Where did all this come from anyway? :eek:

I don't get it either!

[psilocybin]

i have no idea what is going on in this thread

[gettingby]

Way I look on it treat others as you wish to be treated, criticise but dont abuse and never be rude. One of the problems with communication through a forum is its all text based and you get no verbal inflections or body language hints as to the way a statement is made or meant to be received. Was told several years ago around 80% of all communication is non verbal, so chop that out and your bound to get mis-understandings.

EXACTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have had this similar thing with Duck. At first, I thought he was a big pain in the............ , but now, I just adore this guy. (sorry Duck for using you as my example). You can take things the wrong way on forums and in online chats, even with smiley faces because you can't see the other person's facial or body expressions.
Duck, :adore:
BTW, great A1C Mark !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sbuff28@charter]

i have no idea what is going on in this thread


hahaha... yeah me too, who and what said what?

[stella117]

Congrats on your A1c! That's awesome! I go to the endo next Friday and I'm hoping for under 6.

[DeusXM]

Ranting that you hate diabetes on this forum is perfectly fine - several times we've had people pour out how they feel, and they generally feel better for it afterwards.

Just because we don't all constantly vent that we hate being diabetic doesn't mean that we aren't fed up or angry or annoyed about having to put up with the condition.

It's just that such an observation is obvious to the point of banality that generally most people don't bother until there's a specific problem. I personally don't bother expressing anger or whatever about having diabetes because I just can't see what it acheives for me. However, expressing anger about how you can't get your BG under control is not only cathartic but also tends to elicit responses that can help you.

That's just how I feel about my situation though.

[Cyborg]

Deus, I feel honored to be able to read your posts on the forum. Rants or not, you have a lot of knowledge that is helping people. We all go through these days where the big D gets the best of us one way or another. Hang in there and try to not get obsessed with offending people. We know you are not launching personal attacks on people. Sometimes you gotta say what you gotta say. At times I can find it hard to seperate myself from the advice and the people seeking the advice. We do our best to help each other out while dealing with the effects of the disease ourselves. In my opinion, that is a very unselfish thing to do. It helps not only the people you intend to help (and others), but it's also a form of self-help. Keep up the good work....

Great a1c! :top:

[archimeech]

wow, I go away to take care of a funeral and all heck breaks loose. What did I miss around here? :)

Hey Marked, I'm envious of that A1C, can't ever get mine below 6.4!

[Gangrel]

I think he was either drunk, or being a bit of a troll.......