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GregGolden
04-25-2006, 07:53 PM
diabetes sucks.. any opinions?

Cyborg
04-25-2006, 08:02 PM
it bites... (which is worse in my opinion)

am1977
04-25-2006, 08:22 PM
diabetes sucks.. any opinions?

:eviltongu :mad: :evil: :thumpdown :motz: :hmpf: :bawling: :( :argh: :banghead:

Does this tell you how I feel about it???

sofaraway
04-26-2006, 03:31 AM
yeah it does, but things could be worse

befni
04-26-2006, 03:47 AM
some days i hate, hate, hate it :motz:

But most days i just deal with it :dontknow:

gettingby
04-26-2006, 06:40 AM
yeah it does, but things could be worse
I agree here. Things could be worse. I've been dealing with the big D for over 20 years. Do I hate it?? Yeah, most of the time I do but I don't really remember my life much before diabetes. Granted, I was 13 when diagnosed but it just seems like so long ago. We all have our bad days. We come here to vent about them. Vent here anytime b/c chances are I or someone else have been through it and felt the same way. Hang in there GregGolden.

rzrbks
04-26-2006, 07:03 AM
Bright Side of Life by Eric Idle



Always Look on the Bright Side of Life

Some things in life are bad,
They can really make you mad,
Other things just make you swear and curse,
When you're chewing life's gristle,
Don't grumble,
Give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best.
And...

Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistle]
Always look on the light side of life.
[whistle]

If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten,
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps.
Just purse your lips and whistle.
That's the thing.
And...

Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistle]
Always look on the right side of life,
[whistle]

For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word.
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin.
Give the audience a grin.
Enjoy it. It's your last chance, anyhow.
So,...

Always look on the bright side of death,
[whistle]
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
[whistle]

Life's a piece of ****,
When you look at it.
Life's a laugh and death's a joke it's true.
You'll see it's all a show.
Keep 'em laughing as you go.
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.
And...

Always look on the bright side of life.
Always look on the right side of life.
[whistle]


Repeat to fade...

lelggren
04-26-2006, 08:27 AM
Bright Side of Life by Eric Idle
I love that song :) Yes, diabetes sucks. There is so much to complain about. But, when you think about it, is complaining about it going to make it disappear or make it any easier on you? Not really. Granted, come here to vent anytime. It is good to vent from time to time. But, It is a lot happier of a situation if you just say ok, I've got it, it's not going away, So, guess I have to live with it.

Look on the bright side of your life! :) Jackie Boy plays that on his piano in as good as it gets. I love that show ;)

rzrbks
04-26-2006, 09:17 AM
Look on the bright side of your life! :) Jackie Boy plays that on his piano in as good as it gets. I love that show ;)


Yep, that's prolly his best movie.

This doesn't mean that I don't get down and depressed about all this too, it just means that I try and cope as best I can.------------Some days, weeks, months, years are better than others.----------I try and take the view, "What's your lifetime batting average when it comes to attitude?"

playgtar
04-26-2006, 09:35 AM
I look at it the way Phrank said it. "Diabetes is just a big chemistry experiment." I'm getting better the more I experiment. I try to take the "this is deadly serious" part out of the equasion. If I'm off one day, I compensate and remember it for the next time.

sydneya
04-26-2006, 09:36 AM
, "What's your lifetime batting average when it comes to attitude?"

I love that quote. I, too, try to keep a positive attitude. It doesn't take much for me to look around and see someone much worse off than I am. I am in the midst of depression and can't seem to bring my blood sugars down, so I do a lot of looking around.

It's time to change my signature. Can I quote you rzrbks with the above quote. Is that yours or did you borrow it, too?

psilocybin
04-26-2006, 11:46 AM
i hate diabetes and my pancreas for doing this to me!

but yes things can be extremely worse.we can atleast control it

rzrbks
04-26-2006, 11:53 AM
It's time to change my signature. Can I quote you rzrbks with the above quote. Is that yours or did you borrow it, too?


>>>>>>>doing his best Slim Pickens immitation: twisting his cowboy hat in his hands, red-faced and scuffing the toe of his boot in the dirt<<<<<<<<<<<<


"Thank ya kindly, Ma'am. I thunk it up by myself, but I'm real willing to share like I was taught by my momma."

trailrunner
04-26-2006, 01:53 PM
It totally sucks, but there are way worse things that suck WAY more!

Cyborg
04-26-2006, 06:32 PM
It totally sucks, but there are way worse things that suck WAY more!

Lots and lots of things would be way worse. I won't even mention any so as to not offend anyone that may have be in those situations. I feel blessed that this is the only thing wrong with me...

DesertDiabetic
04-26-2006, 08:26 PM
Being a type 2 it is so different in the most important way. I can ignone it whenever I want. I can be in denial if I want, I can take a break if I want. I don't have that additional pressure of life or death every day forcing me into compliance. I am sure that sucks no matter how you look at it.

Yes, it sucks even though I am healthier now than I have been since I was a kid. I eat better, exercise for real and enjoy it. I lost 70 pounds and that is worth something, but it still sucks.

I just noticed that this is in the young adults with diabetes forum.. Not me. Sorry about that. I look at new posts and this jumped out. It still suck though.

2high
04-26-2006, 08:52 PM
Sometimes it sucks real bad, and I wanna break down and cry...
Then I look around and think "Hey, I woke up this morning", and figure ... what's another needle?

You learn to deal with the ****, and if it's really bad, get some friends round and have a first class ***** about anything and everything.

Georgia
04-27-2006, 01:45 AM
I used to think it sucked & boy did I rebel (am paying the price now with eye laser treatment) but now I am past that stage & have accepted it's just a part of my life. Here's to a brighter future everyone :five:

SueM
04-27-2006, 03:44 AM
I have to admit that as I know no different this is life to me.
I have always enjoyed life and as far as I'm concerned no life does not suck.
Yep I have my down days the same as everyone else yes I get frustrated by high or low numbers especialy if there's no reason for them.

Personally I think that the younger you are diagnosed the less hang ups you have about having diabetes.
I was 4 1/2 at diagnoses. I have the attitude,The condition is with me untill the day I die so I might as well make the most of life.

KickStart101
04-27-2006, 04:44 AM
:hmpf: I have to admit that as I know no different this is life to me.
I have always enjoyed life and as far as I'm concerned no life does not suck.
Yep I have my down days the same as everyone else yes I get frustrated by high or low numbers especialy if there's no reason for them.

Personally I think that the younger you are diagnosed the less hang ups you have about having diabetes. I was 4 1/2 at diagnoses. I have the attitude,The condition is with me untill the day I die so I might as well make the most of life.

I definitely agree with you about having less hang ups.
Or not being bothered by it very much. But growing up sucked.
Not being able to eat or drink what you wanted like the other Kids. :motz:
Or not being able to attend some occasions where sweets were a definite.
Understandable though. Shucks. :D

Far as I'm concerned, most Kids are born with a sweet tooth. ;)

I do remember some of Life and also eating some sweets before I was
dxd. at age 3. I even remember wishing that I could eat the stuff my
Brothers were eating sometimes.
Needless to say, "Be careful what you wish for". :)

Erin
04-27-2006, 03:25 PM
Yes it sucks.

But trying to be a grown-up sucks more.

And trying to be a grown-up and realizing you still have "juvenile" diabetes sucks the most.

At least my diabetes doesn't have to grow up.

*Erin is kind of frustrated looking for employment at the moment*

rzrbks
04-27-2006, 06:10 PM
But growing up sucked.

Boy did you just say a mouthful.

Having been in the public school classrom for one quarter of a century, I can tell you the definition of **** is being a teenager, with the second level of **** being a female teenager.


Ain't Nuthin' in the world would make me go back through all that CARP again.

Erin
04-29-2006, 07:06 AM
rzrbks,

Now imagine being an "artistic" female teenager with diabetes.

I can't believe I survived!

I also can't believe I'm interviewing to be a 6th grade teacher on Monday. I always swore I'd never go near the middle grades. Yet, I'm kind of excited about it.

gettingby
04-29-2006, 07:27 AM
Personally I think that the younger you are diagnosed the less hang ups you have about having diabetes.
I was 4 1/2 at diagnoses. I have the attitude,The condition is with me untill the day I die so I might as well make the most of life.
I could not agree more. Yeah, I hated it being diagnosed at 13 and feeling so different from everyone else.Then, when I was 14, I almost died as a result of DKA (long story there, won't bore anyone). After that, I started to view it like this : I AM DA** LUCKY TO BE ALIVE !!!!!! I try to experience as much of life as I can !!! DIABETES WILL NOT BEAT ME !!!!!!!!!!

seacomp
04-29-2006, 07:33 AM
I also can't believe I'm interviewing to be a 6th grade teacher on Monday.
Good luck!

Mister Q
04-29-2006, 11:40 AM
Its all relative anything wrong with you sucks in my humble, I am sure I have posted this on here before but as my Grandad used to say "I cried because I has no shoes till I met a man who had no legs" - he also used to say "The key to life is all things in moderation"

Top and bottom is ok we are worse off than some but better off than others.

corwin
05-02-2006, 04:09 AM
It might be different for someone diagnosed as a kid because this condition do require responsibility which most children don't have. However being diagnosed at 29 I honestly don't mind it much. It's annoying but so is loosing my wallet or getting a flat tire. In my daily life I almost don't see any significant change. So I test few times a day, get an injection before I eat, this amounts to what? 10 minutes a day I spend on this "terrible" condition. It didn't change anything in my life and I really think it's a very small deal. A cold is much more annoying while it lasts. I think some people are generally happy and some aren't no matter what happens in their life.

Corwin.

Goldrun
05-02-2006, 08:25 AM
rzrbks,

Now imagine being an "artistic" female teenager with diabetes.

I can't believe I survived!

I also can't believe I'm interviewing to be a 6th grade teacher on Monday. I always swore I'd never go near the middle grades. Yet, I'm kind of excited about it.


Good luck Erin!:party:

I can't comment on the growing up with diabetes...as I am T-1 adult diagnosed....but I can commiserate on the "life sucks" attitude. I felt a bit sorry for myself early on....but I did find that having a place to go to get answers to my questions was extremely helpful in not feeling ALONE....which was the scariest part of the whole ordeal. Yeah, family can be supportive, but if you don't have anyone else who's insulin dependent around you, it can feel like a mountain loomin' large right in front of you!

I have found this board to be a great resource, and comfort. I suspect you have too (given that you've posted more than me!)....just know that you're not alone GregGolden!

rzrbks
05-02-2006, 11:07 AM
Erin rzrbks,

Now imagine being an "artistic" female teenager with diabetes.

I can't believe I survived!

I also can't believe I'm interviewing to be a 6th grade teacher on Monday. I always swore I'd never go near the middle grades. Yet, I'm kind of excited about it.


Being an "artistic" at any age is a pain. Most Peepul don't get you, and the ones that do have such "investmenture" in their own form of artistic expression that ya gotta have a strong ego.



I also can't believe I'm interviewing to be a 6th grade teacher on Monday. I always swore I'd never go near the middle grades. Yet, I'm kind of excited about it.

I've taught from 6th - college English..........I loved teaching 7th Grade the best

Beenthere
05-02-2006, 02:36 PM
Thought I'd share my point of view with some of you young diabetics - or those more recently dx'd.

There is nothing good that can be said about diabetes. Yes, we are an unlucky bunch. Diabetes' long term complications, if poorly managed, can be far worse that the disorder itself.

Here's where you are lucky. You were diagnosed in the last few years. You now have a way to check your BG levels whenever you want, and shortly the constant monitoring systems will be available to check your BG levels. Gone are the days of glass syringes and needles that had to be sterilized by boiling. So much research and technology has come forward recently that our lives are now, as compared to 40 years ago, more liveable. Going back 60 or 70 years - diabetes was an early death sentence. Also, public awareness is far greater and diabetics are not prejudiced against in the work place as they once were.

I could go on and on, but you get the point. Yes, it may suck for you right now - but it could be sucking a whole lot worse.

Stop making your diabetes the focus of your attention - accept the challenge and do what you have to do and what your doctors tell you and enjoy your life.

Personally, I have never let my disorder stop me from doing anything I wanted to do. I was dx'd at age 7, came from very humble beginnings and my father had a massive heart attack when I was 19 which sort of instantly made me the head of the household; which meant working full time while attening college. I played in a rock band and rowed competitively while in school, I've traveled the world, and have had very challenging and successful career(s). I married, I have a wonderful son and many, many good friends, and it doesn't make one iota of difference to any of them that I am a person with diabetes.

Yep it sucks. But so would the alternatives. If you have the ability to manage your diabetes - you will have the discipline to accomplish much in life. You are alive - enjoy every minute of it.

- Beenthere

rzrbks
05-02-2006, 03:19 PM
Here's where you are lucky. You were diagnosed in the last few years. You now have a way to check your BG levels whenever you want, and shortly the constant monitoring systems will be available to check your BG levels. Gone are the days of glass syringes and needles that had to be sterilized by boiling. So much research and technology has come forward recently that our lives are now, as compared to 40 years ago, more liveable. Going back 60 or 70 years - diabetes was an early death sentence. Also, public awareness is far greater and diabetics are not prejudiced against in the work place as they once were.

Don't forget sharpening the needles on a whetstone!!



Excellent points:congrats: :thumbsup: mon frère

Erin
05-03-2006, 11:09 AM
Don't forget sharpening the needles on a whetstone!!

Or walking a mile to school, uphill... both ways... in the snow... barefoot!

Just kidding, you make good points Beenthere. We are very fortunate. And it IS best not to focus on the sucky parts.

And thanks guys for the luck with the interview! Not sure how it went, but I guess I'll find out soon. Have another one tomorrow, this one elementary school. I'd sure like to know what I'm doing with myself in September.

someone
05-07-2006, 07:39 PM
Hmm.. and what exactly is the point of this thread? Is there anyone out there who is going to say it is absolutely fantastic?

am1977
05-07-2006, 08:12 PM
Hmm.. and what exactly is the point of this thread? Is there anyone out there who is going to say it is absolutely fantastic?


Hey Someone :hello:

I don't know that there's really a purpose to this post :dontknow:. But I actually don't really think there needs to be one. Sometimes people just need a forum or place to express how they feel or vent :argh: and I think that's really what this post is about... That's what's awesome about this forum... it give you a place to do that. And what is even better about it is that people can usually relate and understand :five:.

Just my imput :wink:

someone
05-07-2006, 09:58 PM
Hey Someone :hello:

I don't know that there's really a purpose to this post :dontknow:. But I actually don't really think there needs to be one. Sometimes people just need a forum or place to express how they feel or vent :argh: and I think that's really what this post is about... That's what's awesome about this forum... it give you a place to do that. And what is even better about it is that people can usually relate and understand :five:.

Just my imput :wink:

I have to disagree.. It "sucks" to have diabetes, and everyone knows that.. there is no reason to make a thread about how much it sucks. It is not helping anyone, at least not me ;). Just my input.

am1977
05-08-2006, 04:33 AM
That's fine if you disagree... we'll just agree to disagree :wink:

Tim_Roy
05-14-2006, 07:47 AM
Don't forget sharpening the needles on a whetstone!!


I can top all that.

Back in the earliest days, diabetes was tested for by tasting the urine for sweetness. :puke:

My Mom used to remind me of that everytime I griped about having to do the Clinitest three or four times a day.

If you kids think your parents are bad now, my Mom (who was a nurse) thought nothing of asking me to "Go pee!" when my friends were over. I used to just about die. Luckily by the time girls came into my life, blood testing could be done at home. By then it was a nifty way to scare your friends rather than just gross them out.

Sparkle
05-14-2006, 11:51 AM
Greg - we all know it 'sucks'. What do you want people to say? ! We're all in the same boat and it's a bloody nightmare most of the time - who is going to disagree with you.

Thanks for pointing it out though eh. :puke:

Shotokan
05-14-2006, 10:36 PM
It doesn't matter whether you're diabetic or not. Life is hard. Then you die.

Erin
05-16-2006, 12:28 PM
What's with all the harshness and negativity in this thread (particularly in the latter part of it?). Folks come here for all sorts of reasons, and not always to look for useful advice, sometimes people just want to share and vent with others in the same boat.

If that's not why you are here, why not look at and respond to the threads that are applicable to your situation, and just leave others be?

am1977
05-16-2006, 05:59 PM
What's with all the harshness and negativity in this thread (particularly in the latter part of it?). Folks come here for all sorts of reasons, and not always to look for useful advice, sometimes people just want to share and vent with others in the same boat.

If that's not why you are here, why not look at and respond to the threads that are applicable to your situation, and just leave others be?


I'm with you, Erin :dito:. But I guess some people interpret venting as trying to bring others down. I don't feel that way at all. In fact, I feel like it's healthy to express how we feel, especially during difficult times :argh:- sometimes just getting it out into the open can really help! :top:

I also agree that if people don't like venting or how someone expresses him or herself, they can choose not to read the post- everyone has that option.

Princess B
05-19-2006, 09:07 AM
You can sing that about this thing sucking. It just doesn't seem fair even after 12.5 years of living with it it doesn't get any easier to accept. Think it was easier in the beginning well suppose I was only 11 then though.

Tim_Roy
05-20-2006, 03:54 PM
Well, lemme be quite frank.

You need to think more about where YOU are, and not waste time comparing to where your friends are at.

Let diabetes be the baseline of your existence. It's not going anyplace anytime soon.

Focusing on the bad stuff doesn't help.

You've got diabetes, tough errrrmmmmm... cookies... erm OK, beans then.

How are you going to deal with it and make the most of the life you've got?

Dewey
05-20-2006, 04:17 PM
Anytime I've ever felt "down in the dumps" about having Diabetes (due to high sugars, or violent swings in them), I'd always think about how many worse diseases are out there - that are hardly as treatable, and it would help me rise up again.

We've all been frustrated now & then, but as Tim said, "...make the most of what you've got!"

I was tempted not to post in this thread, cause I AM one of those who thinks life IS fantastic, regardless of Diabetes, and tend to get frustrated when people only seem to see the negative side of things. But, as both Am and Erin stated, people come here for a variety of reasons, and it's their right to share, vent & feel what they're feeling (without being ridiculed).

sugarfree76
05-21-2006, 07:22 PM
Well, lemme be quite frank.

You need to think more about where YOU are, and not waste time comparing to where your friends are at.

Let diabetes be the baseline of your existence. It's not going anyplace anytime soon.

Focusing on the bad stuff doesn't help.

You've got diabetes, tough errrrmmmmm... cookies... erm OK, beans then.

How are you going to deal with it and make the most of the life you've got?
Right on, TR!!!
:top:
Let's focus on what WE (ourselves, as individuals) have...
and how we can improve it!

Patch
05-23-2006, 09:28 AM
I agree entirely with am1977. While a positive attitude is important i'm not impressed with how rude some responses have been. Yes there are worse illnesses, yes there's nothing you can do about it - but people need to vent. If you try and ignore it, repress how you feel about it and just say you won't be brought down by it, it will likely bring you down in other ways. If you don't like dealing with it through venting and allowing yourself to feel down occasionally fine, but don't belittle others so that you feel better about yourself. In my opinion focusing on the bad stuff can help and last thing you need when your feeling negative about it is people telling you to pull it together.
I find diabetes tough sometimes, i've had it since i was two. The thing that annoys me most is how unwilling people are to give a seconds sympathy about it, and i'd of thought here is the one place people should be able to get it.

Dewey
05-23-2006, 05:06 PM
I agree entirely with am1977. While a positive attitude is important i'm not impressed with how rude some responses have been. Yes there are worse illnesses, yes there's nothing you can do about it - but people need to vent. If you try and ignore it, repress how you feel about it and just say you won't be brought down by it, it will likely bring you down in other ways. If you don't like dealing with it through venting and allowing yourself to feel down occasionally fine, but don't belittle others so that you feel better about yourself. In my opinion focusing on the bad stuff can help and last thing you need when your feeling negative about it is people telling you to pull it together.
I find diabetes tough sometimes, i've had it since i was two. The thing that annoys me most is how unwilling people are to give a seconds sympathy about it, and i'd of thought here is the one place people should be able to get it.
The issue here is that people are entitled to have differing opinions. In my post, for example, I was merely offering a suggestion on "how to deal" when someone feels down. It's worked for me & countless others; therefore I offered to pass the idea along. Other than that, it's a classic case of "what may work for one...." I'm not telling them to ignore their frustrations, just offering another viewpoint.

I'm also not going to control everything that's said. Folks have their own opinions and it's their right to air them, as long as they are within reason. I agreed 100% with Both Am & Erin about the fact that members should be able to share frustrations without being ridiculed. There are some members who may have appeared to come across harshly, but this is the internet, and it's hard to see that poster's body language when reading what they wrote. Things are all too often misinterpreted because of this.

I cannot speak for everyone, but this is why I posted what I did. I've had my share of ups & downs, but attribute most of it to pure living, not just to Diabetes. This may not be the case for others, and that's why they're welcome to speak up. This is a place where they can come to vent, share and get support. We're all different, but share many similarities and are all just trying to live, one day at a time.

Beenthere
05-24-2006, 04:39 AM
Right on, TR!!!
:top:
Let's focus on what WE (ourselves, as individuals) have...
and how we can improve it!


Don't think of yourself as a Diabetic, but rather, a PERSON with Diabetes.

Hang in ther and life does get better.

gettingby
05-24-2006, 02:26 PM
I agree entirely with am1977. While a positive attitude is important i'm not impressed with how rude some responses have been. Yes there are worse illnesses, yes there's nothing you can do about it - but people need to vent. If you try and ignore it, repress how you feel about it and just say you won't be brought down by it, it will likely bring you down in other ways. If you don't like dealing with it through venting and allowing yourself to feel down occasionally fine, but don't belittle others so that you feel better about yourself. In my opinion focusing on the bad stuff can help and last thing you need when your feeling negative about it is people telling you to pull it together.
I find diabetes tough sometimes, i've had it since i was two. The thing that annoys me most is how unwilling people are to give a seconds sympathy about it, and i'd of thought here is the one place people should be able to get it.
I fail to see where anyone has belittled anyone for the way they feel. We all have our ways of dealing with this. Some use humor. Some take things very seriously. I, for one, have NEVER belittled anyone for venting. I have experienced alot of things in my time with the big "D" and yes, I do think it sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please take the time to thoroughly read posts before commenting.

am1977
05-24-2006, 08:11 PM
I fail to see where anyone has belittled anyone for the way they feel. We all have our ways of dealing with this. Some use humor. Some take things very seriously. I, for one, have NEVER belittled anyone for venting. I have experienced alot of things in my time with the big "D" and yes, I do think it sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please take the time to thoroughly read posts before commenting.


Hey Cin :hello:

No, I don't think anyone has belittled anyone else here in this thread- I even went back and reread a lot of what has been posted. I think what it comes down to is the way people choose to cope with this disease.

Some feel that they should just put aside how they feel about the disease, maybe b/c they feel that focusing on it or dwelling too much on it will not change anything or possibly b/c they feel it's not worth being depressed about. I'm sure there are a variety of reasons.

THen others of us feel like it's good therapy to vent :argh:. It gets those difficult or stressful emotions out and the open and relieves some of the pressure of dealing with a chronic illness.

I don't think either way is wrong or bad... they are both just different coping styles. I don't think either way needs to be criticized. We all are in charge of how we deal with things and there's no reason to put others down just b/c they choose to deal with things differentlyfrom ourselves. We don't always have to agree with each other on everything, but we can show some respect for each other.

I read your comment and it seems like something really got to you :motz:. I don't know if it's something that was posted in the thread or just the general tone of it, but I hope you don't let people expressing themselve (even if it's negative) get to you.

Ultimately, this is a very supportive forum and we just have to agree to disaree on some issues :wink:.

.+r!x!e.
05-27-2006, 11:51 AM
Bright Side of Life by Eric Idle

taking the words right outta my mouth!

.+r!x!e.
05-27-2006, 01:32 PM
QUOTE:
>I have nothing against doctors in general, I just don't like the ones that practise medicine

Ha! That's great. I love it!

.+r!x!e.
05-27-2006, 02:53 PM
So I have been skimming thro this thread, and I've noticed a bit of a controversy over certain things. I can see where Patch can get off feeling like people are being rude; I don't really agree with it, I think some people on here just know how to cope with things like this "better" and just cannot relate entirely to those of us who are having a horrible time accepting our "malfunction" ((if you will)) and all that we've had to face becuz of it.

In the past I've had people tell me that I just have to accept this and that I am being dramatic and this is just something i have to learn to live with... Hearing these things always always seemed to break me down inside ((call me sensitive if you will)) It tore me apart - brought tears to my eyes. All I could think is this: EFF THAT! How can someone just stand there and tell me these things. YEAH, I know I have to deal with it, I know that! But it just isn't that effin ez for me. I can't just wake up one moring and say "ya know what, everythings is going to be okay!" Becuz I know it's not! I know there is nothing I can EVER do to fix this! Everyday is going to be poking my finger, tesing my blood, counting my carbs, inject ((or bolus)), fighting cravings... and there is SO MUCH MORE we have to face.

This disease came out of nowhere for me. I thought diabetics were people who just couln't have any sugar, and that was that. When I diagnosed I just kept asking Why!? Why me? What did I do to deserve any of this! To me it all seemed so unfair. I resented the fact that I would have to go through so much to feel okay and survive each day. The future looked cloudy.

After a while I got into the swing of things and I think the first three years were just routine and I didn't question it much anymore. As I reached my teens I sunk back into resentment. And it all went down hill from there. I don't actually know anyone with type 1 diabetes, and for a long time ((actualy, up until last night)) I felt SO alone, like no one could understand what I was feeling or even empathize with me. When I came to this board and read what some of you were feeling I just thought, "YEAH! THAT'S HOW I FEEL - EXACTLY!"

Not to say hearing "success stories" aren't wonderful. It's nice to feel a spur of hope when reading about those who have dealt with this for decades who are married with children... It does give me a smidge of hope.. maybe I will learn to simply accept this and move on and it wont be a big deal to me anymore.

But for the time being it is hard and it is also kinda nice to hear from people who feel the same way I do. Ya know?

Anywho I feel quite repedative, and I might be rambling a bit. So I'll end it here.

Dewey
05-27-2006, 05:37 PM
I think what it comes down to is the way people choose to cope with this disease.

Some feel that they should just put aside how they feel about the disease, maybe b/c they feel that focusing on it or dwelling too much on it will not change anything or possibly b/c they feel it's not worth being depressed about. I'm sure there are a variety of reasons.
I can't say that's the reason behind why everyone else is positive, but for me, it's because I've lived with Diabetes for over 24 years (since almost 10 years of age). I really know no other way to be. Heck, when I was diagnosed & put in the hospital, I went into the bathroom, threw up a clenched fist & exclaimed, "I'm gonna win!" (Probably sounds really corny, lol :o )

In addition, I lost my grandfather to lung cancer the same year I was diagnosed. This made me realize that my situation could've been way worse. To top everything off, I lost my dad just a few years later (at age 16), so all of this contributed to me becoming a strong person.

I'm not saying others have to be the way I am, nor am I saying it's not ok to vent. What I'm saying is, each of us has learned different ways of dealing with things over the years through personal experiences....and to some degree, we're "products" of our environments & upbringing.

I've often admitted to getting upset with sugar fluctuations and the like....but the reasons I am able to "get over it" so fast are those described above.

Ultimately, this is a very supportive forum and we just have to agree to disaree on some issues :wink:.
I'm with you 100% in that people should feel welcome & free to share, vent & feel whatever they're feeling without being ridiculed, so I don't disagree there. I just wanted to make the reasons about why I'm able to "cope" the way I do more clear. Hope this helps...

Cyborg
05-27-2006, 07:47 PM
I felt SO alone, like no one could understand what I was feeling or even empathize with me. When I came to this board and read what some of you were feeling I just thought, "YEAH! THAT'S HOW I FEEL - EXACTLY!"

One of the nice things about the forums is being able to relate to others. Alot of us don't normally get this exposure to other diabetics.

BTW, Welcome aboard. :)

psilocybin
05-27-2006, 08:21 PM
One of the nice things about the forums is being able to relate to others. Alot of us don't normally get this exposure to other diabetics.

BTW, Welcome aboard. :)

this forum has brought me wonders....and made me deal with this ways that i never thought were possible....i was in tears when i was first diagnosed...i thought it was over, my life was about to change dratickly (sp?) and how was i going to deal with it...how am i going to learn to deal with this???? what am i going to DO!!!!!??? and sure enough i found this forum, every member of this forum has greatly halped me through my diagnosis, and has got me so far....thank you guys. and now i feel comfortable with everything, and i have people to talk to about my problems and times when im down on myself...

.+r!x!e.
05-28-2006, 01:20 PM
I have to disagree.. It "sucks" to have diabetes, and everyone knows that.. there is no reason to make a thread about how much it sucks. It is not helping anyone, at least not me ;). Just my input.

If you don't wanna read about it - fine that's cool, whatever, STOP READING! Obviously there are others that find some sort of "joy" ((if you will)) in reading/posting in this thread. You don't know that it isn't "helping" someone in some way or another. If it's not helping you DONT COME HERE. Yes! It IS that simple

-trix

.+r!x!e.
05-28-2006, 01:24 PM
BTW, Welcome aboard. :)

thanks... you'll prolly see a lot more of me.

-trix

KickStart101
05-29-2006, 01:44 AM
thanks... you'll prolly see a lot more of me.

-trix

OOPPS, sorry, I cant comment cause I've been through the hard parts
and just enjoying the Good. ;)

Beenthere
05-30-2006, 11:40 AM
[QUOTE=am1977]Hey Cin :hello:

Some feel that they should just put aside how they feel about the disease, maybe b/c they feel that focusing on it or dwelling too much on it will not change anything or possibly b/c they feel it's not worth being depressed about. I'm sure there are a variety of reasons.


Depression is seven times more prevalent among those with diabetes as opposed to the general population. We all do what we have to do to cope.

Tim_Roy
06-05-2006, 01:26 AM
Depression is seven times more prevalent among those with diabetes as opposed to the general population. We all do what we have to do to cope.

And I've read on these boards that may be less due to the stresses of being a diabetic and more likely caused by the particular type of insulin (or pills in the case of Type 2s) they are using. Just a thought. I'm not a doctor.

iris
06-27-2006, 11:37 PM
"Originally Posted by GregGolden
diabetes sucks.. any opinions?"

Sure does. But we can't do anything but deal with it. But yes, I agree with you. Diabetes takes the fun out in most of the things we do - not to mention the things we eat. I will just have to share what my friend always tell me "sieze the day!".

ticklebug
06-28-2006, 04:38 PM
I agree entirely with am1977. While a positive attitude is important i'm not impressed with how rude some responses have been. Yes there are worse illnesses, yes there's nothing you can do about it - but people need to vent. If you try and ignore it, repress how you feel about it and just say you won't be brought down by it, it will likely bring you down in other ways. If you don't like dealing with it through venting and allowing yourself to feel down occasionally fine, but don't belittle others so that you feel better about yourself. In my opinion focusing on the bad stuff can help and last thing you need when your feeling negative about it is people telling you to pull it together.
I find diabetes tough sometimes, i've had it since i was two. The thing that annoys me most is how unwilling people are to give a seconds sympathy about it, and i'd of thought here is the one place people should be able to get it.

Thank you for saying what I couldn't say better myself. Do I vent sometimes? Sure, I do. But is that all I do? No way! I vent. People can choose to listen or not and then I move on my merry way. I find it so much easier on myself to vent sometimes because that is what enables me to move on!

Diabetes does suck and so do a lot of other things. We are human beings and can't help but to feel down some times in our lives. Holding things in is not only bad for you emotionally, but also physically. It's not healthy to assume because someone has posted a complaint that they are letting Diabetes rule their lives and that they spend all their time dwelling on it, ya know? But with written communication, I guess it is hard to understand the mind of the person on the other side of the computer.

I get plenty enjoyment out of my life as I am interested in so many things, but that's because I b*tch. And it's a lot of fun if you're around the right people because before you know it, you'll be laughing again.

See? :hahaha: :rofl: :dancing2: :rock: :tee: :driver: :congrats:

sugarfree76
06-28-2006, 06:33 PM
"Originally Posted by GregGolden
diabetes sucks.. any opinions?"

Sure does. But we can't do anything but deal with it. But yes, I agree with you. Diabetes takes the fun out in most of the things we do - not to mention the things we eat. I will just have to share what my friend always tell me "sieze the day!".
I don't know too much that sucks about how it affects WHAT we do, really.
What we EAT....well, we all know that sucks royally.

sviskan
07-19-2006, 02:57 AM
I dont know what is going on, but I have been more frustrated with my diabetes the last six months than my entire diabetes life all together. I feel that I cant do anything spontanious. Everything I do begins with: I have to remember some food, insulin, the meter and so on... argh. And on the top of that I have gotten the bad habit of crying everytime my bg readings are unexpected. It has gotten so bad, that I cant fall asleep if my bg is not in the normal range. And then, all the stress that I bring upon myself just makes the diabetes even more uncontrollable. I think that maybe this is happening now, because only now do I really realize how important it is to keep the diabetes under firm controll. Anyhow I have had diabetes for 6,5 years and the A1c test has allways been reasonable.

sviskan
07-19-2006, 02:58 AM
I allready feel a little better. Thanks. :)

Lisa971
07-30-2006, 10:56 AM
Hi. This is my first post to this site, so let me tell you a bit about myself. I am 28 and have had type 1 for 20 years now, and for the past 10 years, I have had the worst fluctuations in sugars. About a year and a half ago, all of a sudden, several medical problems that I know are diabetes-related has made me so concerned. I've always been conscious about what I eat, but I grew up in a household of many sweets and temptations and large portions of food and I feel like that has made me so accustomed to and craved bad foods. I have had a hard time staying on schedule with meals and injections due to school schedule, work (I have different things going on different days), etc., and I know this is not a legitimate reason, but just an excuse. I've exercised a lot in the past, stayed active, except for the last year. Now I am dealing with high cholesterol (214 -total or ldl, not sure), high BP, and usually my A1Cs are 9-14. At one point it was 17! I have retinopathy, some esophageal and stomach problem going that that I've been trying to diagnose, and I think it's really bad acid reflux without the burning, and the Aciphex is not helping. Allergies, skin breakouts on the face so bad that sometimes I just want to hide at home, circulation so bad that if I remain sedentary for more than 30 minutes, I feel so stiff and sore. Dealing with muscle pain and neuropathy, sometimes sharp, burning, dull, numbness, I get so frustrated because it prevents me from having a good time doing things, having a stable life in all ways, and mentally, I think it is eating away at my brain. I used to be so sharp, focused, and now I cannot think. My sugars average about 300-320, and often, I'm walking around with sugars in the upper 400s and 500s. My body had become so used to this, that I felt normal, but I think I don't even know what "normal" feels like anymore. It upsets me because people say that I look good because I look physically fit, everything on my outside (except for my bad acne breakouts) looks really good,and people don't take me seriously about some of my "ailments" which they think are just all in my head, doctors don't take me seriously, and I feel like inside my body is so horribly damaged. I have so many aspirations for my future -hopes to go to grad school, raise a happy child, so many things that I now feel like I will not be able to accomplish.

Does anybody else have sugars this high as often as I do, and what do you think is theoutlook for someone like me? I feel like I have been very lucky thus far, because I have not experienced any problems until recently, but they all came at once! I think that staying so physically active in the past has helped my body to overcome these problems at an earlier time. What has happened to others like me?

Some doctors in the past have called me a "brittle" diabetic, because I am so sensitive to so many things at different times. Like this morning, I was at 206, took my basal (levemir) and my novolog, and even took a couple units more than I would normally take since it would not be enough. I only ate 2 wheat breads, didn't get low, and two hours later my sugar was 350! I get so frustrated! Sometimes, my insulin does not seem to work, or it is not absorbed in a timely manner, and sometimes it is, and maybe it has become denatured from sitting at room tempurature for a while, some foods don't have a great affect on me and sometimes they do, and I think that stress and sex hormones affect me so much more than others, and everything causes my diabetes to worsen and vise versa, my diabetes causes other things to worsen.

Somebody please write back! I'd love to hear your responses!

Infosec
07-30-2006, 11:58 AM
Lisa - Hello welcome to the forum. I was diagnosed a T2 for less than a month ago so I can't help much with this issue. However, I am sorry to hear your glucose numbers are so volatile.

Have you consulted a dietitian or are you following a low-carb/low glucose diet? My diet change and daily exercise has helped me a lot. I get on my treadmill every day for 30-50 minutes; it lowers my glucose levels a lot. I find that I am also a lot less stressed after exercise and stress is known to raise your glucose levels.

You will find this is a great place for support and knowledge. I hope some of the other people here can also provide some guidance with how to best stabilize your glucose levels.

am1977
07-30-2006, 02:49 PM
Lisa, wow, that's quite an intro!

I'm sorry to hear that you are struggling so much with this lately. I wish I could offer you some concrete advice and suggesions that would help,but lately, I'm not the expert at managing this myself :rolleyes:.

What I would suggest to you is to get in contact with your doctor ASAP... it is SO important to have your doctor working with you to gain control of this disease- I'm not very certain it can be done without some help from someone in the medical field. Obviously, your blood sugar is too high & I know it's your priority to get it down, but your doctor should also be helping you with that. WHen was the last time you saw your doctor/Endo? I would recommend calling him or her :call: & setting up an appointment. It's more than apparant that something needs to be adjusted in your daily regimen and the sooner you get working on it, the sooner you will be on the path to control. With something like your health, you don't want to take any risks... it's too important.

Please feel free to jump in & post anytime you have any questions or comments~ we always welcome that.

Hope to see you around :ciao:

CiContention
07-30-2006, 03:19 PM
Hi. This is my first post to this site, so let me tell you a bit about myself. I am 28 and have had type 1 for 20 years now, and for the past 10 years, I have had the worst fluctuations in sugars. About a year and a half ago, all of a sudden, several medical problems that I know are diabetes-related has made me so concerned. I've always been conscious about what I eat, but I grew up in a household of many sweets and temptations and large portions of food and I feel like that has made me so accustomed to and craved bad foods. I have had a hard time staying on schedule with meals and injections due to school schedule, work (I have different things going on different days), etc., and I know this is not a legitimate reason, but just an excuse. I've exercised a lot in the past, stayed active, except for the last year. Now I am dealing with high cholesterol (214 -total or ldl, not sure), high BP, and usually my A1Cs are 9-14. At one point it was 17! I have retinopathy, some esophageal and stomach problem going that that I've been trying to diagnose, and I think it's really bad acid reflux without the burning, and the Aciphex is not helping. Allergies, skin breakouts on the face so bad that sometimes I just want to hide at home, circulation so bad that if I remain sedentary for more than 30 minutes, I feel so stiff and sore. Dealing with muscle pain and neuropathy, sometimes sharp, burning, dull, numbness, I get so frustrated because it prevents me from having a good time doing things, having a stable life in all ways, and mentally, I think it is eating away at my brain. I used to be so sharp, focused, and now I cannot think. My sugars average about 300-320, and often, I'm walking around with sugars in the upper 400s and 500s. My body had become so used to this, that I felt normal, but I think I don't even know what "normal" feels like anymore. It upsets me because people say that I look good because I look physically fit, everything on my outside (except for my bad acne breakouts) looks really good,and people don't take me seriously about some of my "ailments" which they think are just all in my head, doctors don't take me seriously, and I feel like inside my body is so horribly damaged. I have so many aspirations for my future -hopes to go to grad school, raise a happy child, so many things that I now feel like I will not be able to accomplish.

Does anybody else have sugars this high as often as I do, and what do you think is theoutlook for someone like me? I feel like I have been very lucky thus far, because I have not experienced any problems until recently, but they all came at once! I think that staying so physically active in the past has helped my body to overcome these problems at an earlier time. What has happened to others like me?

Some doctors in the past have called me a "brittle" diabetic, because I am so sensitive to so many things at different times. Like this morning, I was at 206, took my basal (levemir) and my novolog, and even took a couple units more than I would normally take since it would not be enough. I only ate 2 wheat breads, didn't get low, and two hours later my sugar was 350! I get so frustrated! Sometimes, my insulin does not seem to work, or it is not absorbed in a timely manner, and sometimes it is, and maybe it has become denatured from sitting at room tempurature for a while, some foods don't have a great affect on me and sometimes they do, and I think that stress and sex hormones affect me so much more than others, and everything causes my diabetes to worsen and vise versa, my diabetes causes other things to worsen.

Somebody please write back! I'd love to hear your responses!


Hi Lisa. I've found that Levemir especially needs to be used a little more aggressively than what you'll initially be told. But of course that's for each individual to determine. I've also found that part frustrating, because it seems the timing and acting lengths of Levemir, varying person to person, are more important to maintaining an overall healthy BS than the fast-acting Novolog for coverage. Once you can find a comfortable and consistent range for your Levemir, you should begin to experience some better blood sugars. I split my dosage (which is a mighty how amount of Levemir -- 100 units per day), into three separate shots: 30 in the morning, 30 with dinner and 40 at bed time. This stretches everything out well enough that it seems to keep my sugars under control, and also makes for less need for coverage when I eat, which means less trips to the pharmacy where they will accuse me of eating too much.

:)

marielea
08-24-2006, 11:40 AM
yep, it sure does...but theres nothing we can do about it.

BeckieLynn55
08-27-2006, 03:09 PM
It's been apart of my life for a little over 10 years now. It's a part of me. It sucks, but I'm so used to it that I could hardly imagine not carb counting every meal and having my insulin pump with me. Hopefully, some day I will have to image it :)

gwekina
08-28-2006, 09:23 PM
Thank you everyone who has contributed to this thread.

I have been living with T1 for 4 years now. My control in the past has been OK, with A1C readings around 7. Lately (for last month or so), I have basically lost the plot.:mad: I have HAD it with watching serving sizes and the like, and I have completely given in to my cravings. This resulted in me eating much to much, and having off the scale BS readings, regularly between 300 - 500 mg/dL.

I've realised that the most likely cause of the "uncontrollable" cravings I was having was simply depression & demotivation - not entirely because of the big D, but also the work & home environment that hasn't been the greatest lately.

After reading this whole thread through from the beginning, I must say that it is has been comforting and motivating to hear other people's viewpoints about diabetes management in general. I hope this provides me with the push I really need to get back control.

sandyhandz
09-10-2006, 05:01 PM
It bites the big one. Takes the cake. It seems like it involves almost every aspect of your life! Especially now that I'm pregnant and can't eat what I want.

I was complaining to my mother the other day about it and wondering if I was depressed re: being newly diagnosed. She said, "tell me about it." She's been type I for over 20 years now. But then she said to me, "have you ever heard me complain in the past 20 years?" And I realized she NEVER has. She said, "I just do what I have to do."

I felt a little small. But that's my mother for ya! Typical her! She's like my dog in that she could have a thorn stuck in her foot and would just limp around without making a peep about it. I didn't inherit that gene from her.

When something hurts I cry and complain. When something sucks, I bitc& and moan about it. Does it make it any better? No, but it does relieve some of the pressure it builds up. Maybe one day I'll get used to it. But for now, I'm fighting it and that day doesn't look to be coming any day soon.

am1977
09-10-2006, 06:59 PM
It bites the big one. Takes the cake. It seems like it involves almost every aspect of your life! Especially now that I'm pregnant and can't eat what I want.

I was complaining to my mother the other day about it and wondering if I was depressed re: being newly diagnosed. She said, "tell me about it." She's been type I for over 20 years now. But then she said to me, "have you ever heard me complain in the past 20 years?" And I realized she NEVER has. She said, "I just do what I have to do."

I felt a little small. But that's my mother for ya! Typical her! She's like my dog in that she could have a thorn stuck in her foot and would just limp around without making a peep about it. I didn't inherit that gene from her.

When something hurts I cry and complain. When something sucks, I bitc& and moan about it. Does it make it any better? No, but it does relieve some of the pressure it builds up. Maybe one day I'll get used to it. But for now, I'm fighting it and that day doesn't look to be coming any day soon.


You sound like you have a very strong mother! :) God bless her :flowers:.

I'm more like you... I do get frustrated by this disease, probably too often and, yes, sometimes I throw pity parties for myself :bawling:. But my feeling is that it's ok to do that once in a while. Fact of the matter is that this is a very trying and difficult disease to control. It takes so much to manage it- a lot of self-discipline and self-control and we don't get any breaks, vacations, or holidays away from it. I think we do have the right to acknowledge and to even feel bad/sad about the cards we've been dealt at times.

Yes, I know that doesn't change things or improve them, but I think those days where we feel upset or down are ok- and expressing how we feel is just a matter of letting go and releasing those emotions we are feeling. I think that it definitely is better than keeping those feelings in :top:.

Just my opinion :)

Cyborg
10-03-2006, 08:28 AM
diabetes sucks.. any opinions?

Listen! And understand. That Diabetes is out there! It can't be bargained with, can't be reasoned with! It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop. EVER! Until you are dead!

Stuboy
10-03-2006, 09:29 AM
well said!

jjordie
10-03-2006, 09:47 AM
Cyborg
You are so right - but it does help sometimes to have a really good moan about all
the problems that go with diabetes doesn't it? :hmpf:

.

Cyborg
10-04-2006, 06:49 PM
It absolutely helps... :)

It was a slight on a quote from the movie Terminator...

DesertCoyote93
10-26-2006, 05:15 PM
Yeah, sometimes having diabetes stinks, but most of the time I just tell myself that I just have to live with it and that life could be a lot worse.

Loves to Cheer
10-31-2006, 05:07 PM
yea well umm i kno it sucks but umm you cant just let it get to you like major....i used to think i was the only one who felt like $HIT and was always stressed!! but umm i dont think that no more!! cause you have to take contorl of it yourself and you can let it LIVE YOUR life....but thats what i got to say!! LATER!! ~EMMA~

tay1977
11-01-2006, 02:00 PM
other days when all I want is a big glass of orange juice it really sucks. But the worst thing about it is all the non diabetics think our sugar free food tastes horrible. I've grown to like it, they've come a long way on sugar free foods. and the meds are EXPENSIVE! I'm still coping w/ shellin out $425 a month just on meds and strips.