Yo Yo Boy

Stuboy · #1 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 04:45 PM

I just uploaded all my meter reading to my onetouch software...

this is for the past 30 days... my bg's a like a yoyo!! lol
Would like to know how people think my control is for a newly diagnosed?

RLK · #2 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 05:55 PM

You're right- lots of "yoyo days", but don't feel too badly about it- based on your posts here, you've been working really hard. Getting off the Mixtard should help with the ups and downs- any luck moving to basal and bolus shots?
My 30-day plot looks rather similar, but I know that I need to work harder than I have been, so don't use me as any kind of example.
By the way, how did you post your glucose plot from the OneTouch software? I just got my UltraSmart (and love it!)- I hope that the logbook function will help keep me on track.

Funnygrl · #3 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 07:17 PM

Quite honestly, I'm amazed you are doing as well as you are on the mix. I frankly wouldn't even bother trying to get control till I was on basal/bolus, since you really can't.

JediSkipdogg · #4 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 07:19 PM

HAHA...Stu...you think that's bad? I'll upload mine lighter for the past 90-180 days or so. You'll really see a Yo Yo. SInce being in my own place, I still don't recall a reading over 200. Before that, well, I'll show you when I get home tonight.

Dewey · #5 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg

HAHA...Stu...you think that's bad? I'll upload mine lighter for the past 90-180 days or so. You'll really see a Yo Yo. SInce being in my own place, I still don't recall a reading over 200. Before that, well, I'll show you when I get home tonight.

It sounds like being in your own place has done your sugars & health a bit of good, eh? Kudos to you for taking better control.

JediSkipdogg · #6 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey

It sounds like being in your own place has done your sugars & health a bit of good, eh? Kudos to you for taking better control.

It's called I cook my own meals and I cook them for ONLY me. Therefore I can weigh food products out accurately along with the ingredients in them. Of course, just now I tested and was 322, I guess I jinxed myself, lol. **** Quiznos for dinner.

I'm also in the process of building a database system of recipes and foods for my kitchen. I had an old LCD monitor laying around that won't work more than 30 minutes on at a time then it has to be off for quite a while. So I'm setting that up with a older computer and then will be making a food database for myself that I can access anything I need to and have the Internet on it for unknown food items. Just a small idea I came up with to also help myself, not to mention give me easier access to food info for my masterful recipes.

Dewey · #7 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg

It's called I cook my own meals and I cook them for ONLY me. Therefore I can weigh food products out accurately along with the ingredients in them. Of course, just now I tested and was 322, I guess I jinxed myself, lol. **** Quiznos for dinner.

Well, Quizno's does seem to do a number on folks' sugar, especially the breads. The rest to me, means you're taking better care of your sugars, cause the responsibility has been fully put into your hands - nobody there to cook for you, and nodoby right there to wake you should you go low.

The computer idea is definitely a good one.

Also meant to say, don't beat yourself up, Stuboy....We all get fluctuations at times. If we didn't, we wouldn't have Diabetes.

gettingby · #8 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 08:10 PM

We all have Yo Yo days. I had 2 perfect days in a row, no bg over 161 and then boom, next day, trouble with a capital T. I think that once you can get on the basal/bolus regime, things will look better. Don't give up and don't beat yourself up over the bad days.

JasonJayhawk · #9 (**permalink**) 10-02-2006, 08:46 PM

Gettingby said it nicely -- I can do a few days perfectly, and then suddenly have a bad week, and it goes in loops.

Rarely do I have a day where I don't exceed 200 mg/dl at least once during the day, but my A1c's have always been in the non-diabetic range.

Stu, since you're correcting for those highs, your A1c will look better than it seems. Switching from a less predictable insulin to something with a more learnable basal curve will help you out!

Stuboy · #10 (**permalink**) 10-03-2006, 06:08 AM

i like to think i can have some sort of control over it with the mixtard, but yeh im probably kidding myself. But then i got in touch with a friend from school (haven't seen her for about 5 years), she's diabetic and i think she has been sinse about the age of 8? Well... she's always been on mixtard 30! i was shocked to hear that, she's been on mixtard for about 15 years!?

Im dieing to know what my A1c is... should find out in november i think.
So when you guys review your contol when you look at your graphs.. do you tend to look at the yo yo type graph or just your averages? As my averages are in target ranges...

Stuboy · #11 (**permalink**) 10-03-2006, 06:12 AM

oh yeh... i will be pushing for bolus and basal as well.. i've just join BUPA health care (private health care) so im assuming they'll be more willing to put me on a treatment regieme that i want than the NHS will.

RLK · #12 (**permalink**) 10-03-2006, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuboy

So when you guys review your contol when you look at your graphs.. do you tend to look at the yo yo type graph or just your averages? As my averages are in target ranges...

I tend to look at both- the averages give me an idea how I'm doing overall, and the before-meal and after-meal averages help me find trouble spots. The graph helps me visualize how far I'm "swinging" BG-wise and help me fine-tune things to even out the swings. The more even my BGs are, the better I feel. They're both great tools for managing things and IMHO should be used in tandem.
When do you get to see the doc under your new health care? Good luck convincing them to put you on basal-bolus. My experience has been that you have to do all the homework first and walk into your appointment ready to argue your case (politely of course!). When I see my endo, it feels like cramming for an open-book exam- I have all my notes and questions and I try to stay one step ahead of him. Anyway, good luck!

Stuboy · #13 (**permalink**) 10-03-2006, 08:14 AM

Not sure when it'll be yet, I just joined BUPA yesterday so i've yet to try and make an appointment. I think they might be suprised that I want to go onto Basal and Bolus at such an early stage... i dont know, but i'll try. I'll argue the point of "what's the point in learning to control with mixtard when it's near on impossible.. only to join the gym and try all over again, then move onto basal and bolus later on and learn control all over again, why not just get it right in the first place instead of learning to control with something you're not gonna be using in a years time or for the rest of your life" from what i've been reading around here control with an active life (going to the gym every other day) will be a lot easier with basal and bolus than it will with mixtard. I need to loose these hypo's!

Although i am having a hypo nea ron everyday, i am starting to feel it again, which is good!

RLK · #14 (**permalink**) 10-03-2006, 08:44 AM

That's exactly the logic that my doctor used when she switched me to Humalog and Ultralente 3 days after diagnosis. She didn't see the point in getting me stable on one regimen only to change it once I had better control and was closer to ending my honeymoon period. I don't think that it's too early to learn how to do multiple injections, count carbs, and properly calculate a dose of fast-acting insulin, especially if doing these things makes you feel better and live a more-normal life.

Stuboy · #15 (**permalink**) 10-03-2006, 10:37 AM

exactly, the only thing im concerned about with B&B is the carb counting... i often dont cook my own dinner (laura's mum does) and i would never expect her to try and count the carbs in the food she cooks us. So even if i could "trial and error" or have a rule of thumb for bolusing meals i should be ok. I'd be logging what i eat and what bolus units i used for each food against results untill i get it right anyway.
I think everyone by now knows what im like, im well motivated to get this right!!
I could count breakfast and lunch carbs tho.

My nurse did say you can use a rule of thumb for bolus units...(but she didn't tell me what it was lol)