[Ronin]

This morning, like all other mornings, I took my FBG and was rather quickly startled into fully awake when the meter registered 125 mg/dl. Now, I know that I have a pretty strong Dawn Effect, but never this high.

A bit later I had breakfast that consisted of 2.5 medium bananas, 8 strawberries, and about 1/4 cup of blueberries with 1/3 cup of fat free yogurt and a cup of black coffee with equal. (my usual breakfast)

On a whim I decided to check my BG levels an hour after breakfast. (Yeah, I know about the 2-3 hour rule, but I wanted to see the spike numbers.) Much to my surprise the BG level was down to 106 mg/dl.

Most of you know more about this than I do, so can anyone explain these readings to me?

[Harold]

One aspect of type 2, that rarely is mentioned, is the sluggish or delayed response to glucose and insulin levels. Another way to explain it. Your fpg was a slow insulin release response to a glucose release to get you up and moving. By the time you ate and decided to check your level you had released enough insulin to recover. Fortunately for you your insulin resistance is not so great that your body is able to over come it with adequate insulin in a reasonable amount of time.

[Funnygrl]

125 is high for you?

[Ronin]

Response to Funnygirl:

Yep, 125 is high "For Me." As a Pre-Diabetic I'm watching the FBG levels as well as quarterly HbA1c levels. About six months ago, my FBG levels drifted from the 90's into the low 100's while the HbA1c numbers remained at 5.2%

However, this morning I did not understand what could have caused this reaction.

Now for Harold:

I kind of like Harold's explanation of a sluggish insulin response. I have done some middle of the night testing to discover that I'm generally in the low to mid 70's at that hour but always much higher in the AM. (Dawn Effect?)

As the son of a type-II who died of stupidity (he refused to take care of himself or admit that he had a problem with diabetes, smoking, and drinking) I am watchful about the potential. When I was diagnosed as Pre-Diabetic that got my attention and I'm still working on keeping Type-II at bay for as long as possible. But this morning both scared and confused me. I'm still a rookie at this. (I know tons of stuff about cholesterol and lots about exercise, but little about glucose metabolisim beyond the basics.)

[xMenace]

-You got a virus or undetected infection.
-You have stress.
-That low of 70 was actually a 65 and your liver kicked into gear.
-You had a nightmare where you were trying to escape from the nasty DFers. This survival instinct threw your liver into high gear.
-Suspots.

[CaptainMike]

I believe your meter is only required to be accurate to +- 20% by the FDA, which means that a 125 reading could have 'actually' been a 100 or a 150. The meter is a guide, not a lab calibrated instrument (even those can have significant margins of error)

Trends are far more important in this business than spotchecks. if you see several/many highs in a row and your next A1C is up some, then it might be something to be concerned about.

Cheers, and good luck, sounds to me like you are doing things right.
Mike

[ladytaz]

Can't say what happened to cause you to have such a *high* FBG number (sorry, hadda giggle at that one! ) But I will tell ya, if I ate all that fruit at one sitting, at ANY given time, my BGL would be THRU THE ROOF!!!

Musta been sumpfin in the air today, cuz I awoke to a 142, which I haven't seen in the morning for almost 3 months now. My morning numbers are generally around 100 somewhere these days.

[ClaireZk]

Originally Posted by xMenace

-You got a virus or undetected infection.
-You have stress.
-That low of 70 was actually a 65 and your liver kicked into gear.
-You had a nightmare where you were trying to escape from the nasty DFers. This survival instinct threw your liver into high gear.
-Suspots.

I know it was a joke, but can nightmares really cause glycogen dumps during the night???

[Emm]

Apparently, YES... because it stresses the body and your liver starts preparing you for danger. That's what I've read anyways... Haven't had it happen to me.

[Dervish]

I've read that hypos can cause nightmares. And hypos can also cause liver dumps, so there would be a correlation between nightmares and liver dumping, even without one causing the other.

[ClaireZk]

That makes so much sense. I've nightmares almost everynight my entire life. Coincidentally, basically all my lows are at night. I always wondered if the two things were related. But, this is the sort of thing that if you asked an endo about it, they'd probably laugh