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Old 03-14-2008, 04:52 PM
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I kinda agree with the article. Why test that often if you do nothing with the results. I think the point of view it was written from is more to do something with the results if you are going to test that often.

I think any T2 (or even T1) who RESPONDS to BGs when doing 2-3 a day is going to have better control etc. than anyone doing 5-10 tests a day and doing nothing with the results.
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Old 03-14-2008, 04:57 PM
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Surely instead of complaining about test strip overuse he could give some diabetics the knowledge they need to use them wisely? why must people always complain about problems without offering an answer?

Reading that really pee'd me off... I do understand that Ds who aren't taking active control need help. Limiting their strips doesn't help, it hurts. Instead, they need knowlege to use them properly! They need to know what to do with those numbers.

I bet most uncompliant diabetics are actually just lost because they have had that silly simple explanation from their doctor and no help since.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:37 PM
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I agree with what this pharmacist has to say. However, they way he says it is rude and a total turn off. His holier than though attitude and foul language is really a quick way to get people to turn a deaf ear. What this fellow said could have been said in about one paragraph and done quite nicely without his nasty attitude toward the people he is supposed to be helping.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:12 PM
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This guy & his whole blog pi**es me off!!! He's so cocky, rude & condescending, that most people can't get past any of that to decide whether or not they'd actually agree with him on something.

I just "love" (SARCASM) how he calls the general public (as Nancy so aptly put it - the people he's supposed to be helping) "tards." What a smug know-it-all. He's a bona fide jack a$$, in my NOT so humble opinion. Wish I knew where he worked so I'd know NEVER to go there. Oh wait....My pharmacy is mail order.

Sorry, he just struck a chord in me. I'm with Nancy (with regard to the guy's 'tude), Mich Mike and some of the others.
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:52 PM
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What this fellow said could have been said in about one paragraph and done quite nicely without his nasty attitude toward the people he is supposed to be helping.
...but then there wouldn't be a 2 page thread on the site.

Howard Stern knows, controversy sells. If the blog was polite, no one would read it.
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:58 PM
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Ahhh heck Gangrel, I would have read it. Honestly, I don't need anyone to swear at me or insult me to read or listen to them!

I know what you are saying. It is kinda like a train wreck, you just can't help but look.
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:55 PM
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This guy & his whole blog pi**es me off!!! He's so cocky, rude & condescending, that most people can't get past any of that to decide whether or not they'd actually agree with him on something.
Hey Dewey, I am right with you on this one honey!!

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I just "love" (SARCASM) how he calls the general public (as Nancy so aptly put it - the people he's supposed to be helping) "tards." What a smug know-it-all. He's a bona fide jack a$$, in my NOT so humble opinion. Wish I knew where he worked so I'd know NEVER to go there. Oh wait....My pharmacy is mail order.
Dewey, I am the poor sod who go to the pharmacy for these soden strips so here is the questions that I tell them.
  • are you a diabetic?
  • Are you on insulin?
  • Do you have to count carbs and match that with fast acting insulin?
  • Do you have to watch what you doing with exercise?
  • Do you take jelly beans to prop up yourself if you get low?
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Sorry, he just struck a chord in me. I'm with Nancy (with regard to the guy's 'tude), Mich Mike and some of the others.
Hey Dewey, There is noth'in like a Jacka$$ who seems to think that is all you need, You know I see that the pharmacist is that of a type 2 and god I'll give her heaps. Sorry Dew, I'll put back my colt 44 back in the holster.
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:42 PM
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That's what drives me nuts. These large corporations that can change that do nothing. Where is the JDRF? Where is the ADA? How about the IDF? Why are these companies that have millions donated to them yearly not helping the general public to make the items more affordable? Heck, they'd get twice as much money donated if they cut strip pricing in half (which in my opinion is very reasonable.)
This is what drives me crazy too. Who cares what some moron obviously without diabetes has to say about people who test too much (if there is such a thing). Yes, I agree, test wisely and use your results to change something or work with your doctor to develop a different regimen, but if you think you need to test 10+ times a day , and are willing to do it...more power to ya!!

But the whole money thing is what kills me. Why do strips cost a dollar a pop? Because these companies know they can charge that. They don't care about you and me. I'd be willing to bet that we don't even need to use a blood sample to check our blood any more. Are you telling me that the technology to test without a blood sample is not out there? Or is it that these glucose monitoring companies know that if they make it so we can use a UV light (or whatever the case may be) to check our BG that they would be lossing billions in test strips. Ever thought about how they can afford to give away free meters? They want your business buying strips. Pi**es me off. Okay, now I'm angry. Deep breath....
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:28 PM
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Funny Girl, I checked the site out that you posted.
The guy sounds like an eliteist idiot.

I test often too. It's the only way I can keep tight control.
I like to know how a meal affected me or how a workout benefited me. It helps.
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:56 PM
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Well, if the answers to the supposed questions were really "no" then the person shouldn't bother to test (not changing anything -- meds, foods or actiions) based on the meter results. However, I can't imagine a person testing more than 4x a day (more than the doctor said) if they were not basing action on the numbers. Personally, I do adjust my insulin based on my pre-meal numbers, I factor what I will be eating based on my number, and I figure what I ate that did well or not based on the numbers... Basically just like I think most of us do!

Let me rant about the pharmasists and the pharmacy assistants. There are sure some ______ that choose that line of work. I've learned do NOT drop a prescription renewal off before it's due to be refilled as they will loose it, and then do every thing other than say "I don't care" when you ask them how they could loose it and explain you now need the meds. Don't expect them to call if they can't refill the prescription like the automated system says they will. Don't trust them to fill the prescription as the doctor said (I've gotten 1/2 the pills I needed before, and then had to argue w/ the person that you need more than 15 pills to take 1/2 a pill 2x a day for 30 days). I just love CVS (not). Haven't bothered to switch as I've hard the competitors are just as much fun.
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I just love CVS (not). Haven't bothered to switch as I've hard the competitors are just as much fun.
Can't stand CVS either... We switched to Costco, we love them, but limited hours. You don't have to be a member, and their prices are great! Turns out my ACE is cheaper to buy cash than to go through insurance... CVS wouldn't have done that for me...
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Old 03-15-2008, 03:04 PM
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I actually agree with parts of it too. I DO take my meter to my Dr when I go in each and everytime, and he seems to think I am testing enough.

I have NO medical coverage at all and everything comes out of my pocket, so I don't test 5+ times a day. I test now MAYBE once a day, only then to make sure I am still on track, but sometimes it may be a couple of days. Usually only under the following criteria now:

In FACT, since I have gotten mine under control and I know how just about every reading makes me feel, example, when I start feeling all woozing and dizzy I know it is getting a little low and I need to get something in me to fix this. On the flip side, if I am getting a headache and get tired, I know it's about 170-180 and I need to...... well, just chill, because no one has ever given me instructions on how to combat THAT. While it doesn't happen often, it does happen, mostly with stress, so a hot bubblebath behind a LOCKED door helps relieve that, of I am sick, those are the only times I go high.

I don't want to be bashed on because of this, but I know what MY body is doing better than anyone else and after spending almost a year getting to know my disease and how my body is dealing with it and what foods do what to me, I just don't feel the need and to me it is totally wasteful.

IF I was Type one or on shots or anything more extreme than Metformin and needed that, I'd test more, but to ME, in my head, it is just wasteful for me to poke myself and have that number read what I know it is. My husband got really angry with me at first and wasn't happy I wasn't testing as much. BUT, I'd have to show him, BEFORE I ran a test, I'd tell him what it was going to read and not one time have I been more than +/-5 pts..... so to me it's wasteful to test more than I do.

Not to mention I don't have funds to test 5+ times a day... and probably wouldn't if I could. I want to control my disease, NOT my disease controlling me...... sounds like I am bashing on others, but I am seriously not, I am simply posting what works for ME....... I am just insanely disciplined and self controled and I know what my body needs..... I stay in tune with it so PILLS don't have to.


HOWEVER, if I eat out, regardless of how I feel, I DO test then. always always, but MY cooking, I know exactly what is in it.
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Wow, just wow. Remind me not to use TAP's pharmacy. Bad Bad advice.
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Old 03-17-2008, 12:28 AM
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Make sure to view his most recent post, now.
You know, the saddest & scariest thought is that this jacka$$ and his followers are the very people there to supposedly "help" us. Whether or not the people I've dealt with have been that way behind patients' backs, they've always been kind & helpful toward folks - which I honestly hope was sincere. What the he** is the point of being in a job where one's supposed to help people, if they're going to be rude & NOT help!?

This guy needs to get OUT of the business & stay the He** OUT. He also needs to take his chums (who smugly agreed & used the same "wonderful" language & lack of intelligence he did) out with him!!

For the record, had this blog not been introduced, I likely would Never have read it. Why read a bunch of negativity from a jerk like that? That said, I'm glad that I did read it. It reminds me just how mean & stupid some people can truly be. I doubt anyone's intelligent comments will sink into that jacka**'s head...
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