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04-15-2008, 06:40 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008
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| | Accu Chek Aviva or Ultra 2 My friend asked me to see if I could get some information for her. She doesn't have internet access so I'm her "in between". She has a free Accu Check Aviva and a One Touch Ultra 2. Both seem fine to be working fine she says. She loves how the One Touch keeps track of food (before and after readings), how you can see how it lists the results, the back light, etc... She REALLY loves the Multiclik lancet that came with the Aviva. I've only used the Freestyle so I can't give advice.
How accurate are those 2 meters? Is there somewhere that compares meters that I can check for her?
If she goes with the One Touch, do doctors frown upon giving prescriptions for 1 meter and another to get your lancet from a different maker?
Thanks for any advice....I'll pass it on to her.
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04-15-2008, 07:55 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
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| | | I can't comment on the prescription issue. In Canada there's no problem at all as I can get a free meter at any phamacy with the purchase of 100 strips. I don't need scripts for meters and strips. I use the multiclix with my BD Link.
Both Aviva and U2 are great meters. They are both accurate as are all meters on the market today. Go with the one she likes the best.
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04-15-2008, 09:42 PM
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| | | Both are great meters. I'm a Lifescan fan so I'd choose the Ultra 2. As for the lancet device she should be able to use whatever one she wants. I have heard nothing but positive items about the Multiclix and there should be no problem with them covering lancets for it.
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04-16-2008, 09:00 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas
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| | | My multiclix is my peferred lancing device, I use it with my Ultra 2 and BD link meter. Insurnace covers the multiclix drums for me no problem. Insurnace has also covered both the Ultra 2 strips and the Novamax strips that work with the BD link. | 
04-17-2008, 07:32 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008
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| | | Thanks everyone for the information. I guess the one she likes has been 10 points higher than the other. So she still doesn't know which to use as her "regular" meter but I did pass along what you said.
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04-17-2008, 07:45 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
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Originally Posted by cindel Thanks everyone for the information. I guess the one she likes has been 10 points higher than the other. So she still doesn't know which to use as her "regular" meter but I did pass along what you said.
Thanks | She can't possibly say this without extensive testing which I'm quite positive she hasn't done. These things can have a 20% variance. If she can, have her do say 100 tests, then maybe start making such judgements.
__________________ Michael Pollan on CBC In Defense of Food with Michael Pollan T1 1975, MM 722 pump
A1C 7/08 5.9%
HDL - 1.55 (59.9)
LDL - 1.76 (68.1)
Triglicerides - 0.44 (40.0)
Called John, plus many other things
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04-17-2008, 01:53 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hogwarts, Hobbiton, the Galactic Milieu &Ks when I have to be here
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| | | With meters, it's best to pick one type and stay with that meter based on your Personal experience.
I have 5 different types of meters, the Ins. has forced me to change several times, but I always go back to the OneTouch simply because I like it best.
I have compared the different kinds and there is always a difference in B/G #s, but each is consistent within it's individual parameters.
Tell her to pick the one she likes, and if possible, stick with it.
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04-17-2008, 02:34 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Crestline, CA.
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| | | Aviva is a great meter.
I also have the Ultra 2 and the Ultrasmart, also great meters.
I USE the Aviva, I have MONTHS of strips for it, so, I stick with it. I like it's simplicity and it's logs
The Ultra 2 is VERY nice. I can log pre and post prandial BGs with it, the lighted screen is VERY nice. But I don't use the pre and post prandial features, even though all I have to do is press a button to tell it which I am testing for. Which I "should", really.
The Ultra Smart is VERY neat! It has all sorts of different features, none of which I use. Not that they don't have a use, they are very handy things, and if I were a "better" diabetic, I'm sure I would use them, it's a lack of my own discipline that I do not use those features. Liek the Ultra 2, I don't use those features because I don't typically use those meters as I have a very short supply of those strips. I'd probably teach myself a routine to use these features if I weer emore motivated, such as had strips to use as needed like I have with my aviva.
Now, my multiclix lace device is GREAT! It came with my aviva and I really like the lancet drums.
Down to my point. If I had the same amount of strips for my Ultra 2, I would simply use the multiclix with the ultra 2, while the Aviva is great, IMHO, I think the Ultra 2 offers me some things I REALLY should use, it's good information.
Does this help?
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04-17-2008, 09:15 PM
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| | | I use the OneTouch ultra; I am not crazy about it but it was the one my DE recommended and gave me and it's OK; I actually have three of them, one for home, one for work (when I was working) and one for my travel trailer. I have an order in for a free Aviva and I will give it a try for comparison. I am pretty sure shecan use whatever lancing device she wants; just have the doc write the script so her insurance will cover the lancets.
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04-18-2008, 06:24 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by xMenace She can't possibly say this without extensive testing which I'm quite positive she hasn't done. These things can have a 20% variance. If she can, have her do say 100 tests, then maybe start making such judgements. | Judgement on what???? She IS entitled to an opinion. | 
04-18-2008, 06:28 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by pokie I use the OneTouch ultra; I am not crazy about it but it was the one my DE recommended and gave me and it's OK; I actually have three of them, one for home, one for work (when I was working) and one for my travel trailer. I have an order in for a free Aviva and I will give it a try for comparison. I am pretty sure shecan use whatever lancing device she wants; just have the doc write the script so her insurance will cover the lancets. | Apparently her insurance will NOT split between companies. She can't get 1 meter from one company, and lancet from the other. Oh well. Like said before....it's personal preference.
Thanks for all the advice!!!!!!! | 
04-18-2008, 06:37 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan
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| | | Ultra 2
Use the poking device of your choice. Most use the same lancet, (round). I think there are still a few that use the flat lancet though.
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04-18-2008, 08:00 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008
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| | | Personally I use the Freestyle Flash and lancet that came with it. I don't know anything different so that's what I'll use. I'm not sure what you mean by round or flat lancet. | 
04-18-2008, 08:10 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MN
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| | | I use the Aviva, and tested against my Ultra Mini and it was within like 3 BS points. It shouldn't matter which lancing device you use; insurance companies are stupid like that. | 
04-18-2008, 08:54 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan
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Originally Posted by cindel Personally I use the Freestyle Flash and lancet that came with it. I don't know anything different so that's what I'll use. I'm not sure what you mean by round or flat lancet. | The lancet itself, not the mechanism you use to poke your finger with it. The freestyle one is round. There used to be some that were flat (like the width of a test strip) I don't remember who made them. Even when I switch meters I still use my navy blue poker from OneTouch. The name of it has long since worn off, but I think it came with my original Fastake or Ultra.
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