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Old 11-16-2009, 11:06 AM
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Breeze2 issues

If any of you are using Breeze2 by Bayer and came from another meter -- do you experience these annoying E8 errors all the time which waste a strip? I swear since I got mine I've blown thru at least 12 strips with an E8 error. E8 is an "insufficient blood drop" error. Is this one of those 3u of blood required meters?

My FreeStyle lite and the ReliOn Micro both only require 1u of blood. I've got to prick myself a lot deeper to get the blood needed for this Breeze2 it seems.. I LOVE it for the convenience of the 10-strip discs... And it was more in sync with the ReliOn's numbers. My Freedom Lite was always about 10-12% higher in the numbers.. I prefer a more 'real number' and not artificially inflated for whatever reason.

But is there a secret to getting a read EVERY time on the Breeze2?

If this meter needs 3u of blood I may have to drop it.. And I JUST changed the scrip at my Drs.. ofc... Uggh..
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:23 PM
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It needs more blood but I think that's what makes it more precise.

At the beginning I wasted like 5 strips but after I figured the necessary size of drop I never had that problem again.

With the multiclix it's pretty easy for me to get a reasonable drop.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:09 PM
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It needs more blood but I think that's what makes it more precise.

At the beginning I wasted like 5 strips but after I figured the necessary size of drop I never had that problem again.

With the multiclix it's pretty easy for me to get a reasonable drop.
Thanks Grunch.. I was like spoiled with the other meters that needed less. I didn't have to prick my finger so deeply.. It seems that the more blood you need the deeper the prick needs to be.. Oh well.. C'est la vie..

Thanks!
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Meds: Metformin XR 500mg-2/day, Lantus 24iu 8:30am, Diovan 80mg-1/day,
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Weight mngm't: 288 (7/15/09) | 262 (2/7/10) | but down a total of 26 lbs
Regained 2 lbs after adding back a tiny bit of Novalog to my regimen. - Have to stay off it for now.
Exercise reg: 1hr at gym or 1 mile walk weather permitting 3-4x/week
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:18 PM
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I just got my Breeze2 today and I have to say that I really like it! I have not had any errors as each time I got a good reading. In fact, I have been testing with it and my Aviva and the readings have been exactly the same or with 1 or 2 points. I love that I don't have to handle the strips anymore but I will say this. Those strips for this meter are tiny!

I just order 100 more strips for my Breeze2 and plan to make it my primary meter now. I do love the Aviva and I got it because it does tend to provide higher readings but I am glad because I want tighter control. With the Breeze2 seeming to provide very similar readings, I feel I have two very solid meters to help me keep tight control.

I appreciate Bayer sending me this meter for free. I am looking forward to the new Bayer Contour USB but I really like this 10 strip wheel setup and no playing around with putting strips into the meter.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:51 AM
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My FreeStyle lite and the ReliOn Micro both only require 1u of blood. I've got to prick myself a lot deeper to get the blood needed for this Breeze2 it seems...
Are you using 3 different meters on a regular basis?
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:33 AM
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Are you using 3 different meters on a regular basis?
No. Wasn't satisfied with the discrepancy between Freedom Lite and ReliOn Micro with readings under 110. Vast difference.. 25%+.. so I needed a "tie-breaker". Loved the idea of the strip discs. And their computer software tracking. So for a week I used all three for testing. The Reli-On and the Breeze2 tracked within 1-2 points of each other each test using the same blood drop. The Freedom Lite was artificially high by 5-10 points. I also varied which meter was the first to receive the blood from the site. Same results.

Now I've changed over to the Breeze2 fully.

I wanted to have accurate 7, 14, 30 day averages too only possible with one meter.

The Breeze2 also, only immediately after the test, has the ability to erase a bad reading.

Other than needing more blood-I'm happy with this meter.

Will retire my Freedom Lite and use my ReliOn as my spare.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:50 AM
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No. Wasn't satisfied with the discrepancy between Freedom Lite and ReliOn Micro with readings under 110. Vast difference.. 25%+.. so I needed a "tie-breaker". Loved the idea of the strip discs. And their computer software tracking. So for a week I used all three for testing. The Reli-On and the Breeze2 tracked within 1-2 points of each other each test using the same blood drop. The Freedom Lite was artificially high by 5-10 points. I also varied which meter was the first to receive the blood from the site. Same results.

I have been using the Freedom Freestyle for a long time. My doc checks it for me against the lab and it is always reading within one or 2 points so I consider it to be pretty accurate. Plus you can use a very small amount of blood to get the reading, also you can use it other places on the body like arms and legs.

Every time I have a complaint about control doc checks my meter. He is stuck on re-wind. good thing I have you guys to bounce ideas off of.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:36 AM
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I am looking forward to the new Bayer Contour USB but I really like this 10 strip wheel setup and no playing around with putting strips into the meter.
Your Breeze2 doesn't have a USB port, mine does, or do you just prefer the Contour? The Contour USB was my first meter and I soon tired of fumbling with the individual strips.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:28 AM
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I have been using the Freedom Freestyle for a long time. My doc checks it for me against the lab and it is always reading within one or 2 points so I consider it to be pretty accurate. Plus you can use a very small amount of blood to get the reading, also you can use it other places on the body like arms and legs.

Every time I have a complaint about control doc checks my meter. He is stuck on re-wind. good thing I have you guys to bounce ideas off of.
Let me reiterate from my post#1 -- from 110-200 the two meters tracked about even (Freedom Lite, Relion Micro). The discrepancies come from 70-110 where the Freedom Lite is consistently reporting higher than the other two meters. Very consistenly (or should I say 'inconsistently') higher than the Breeze2 or the ReliOn Micro. Imagine our good buddy ShottleBop getting a 96 instead of an 84 on any given reading how he might change what he ate to get even lower.. to the point of maybe even being in hypo range.

I need 'better accuracy' in the lower range. My Freedom Lite seemed perfect to me at first and very consistent.. It's only been since my numbers are better controlled and lower that I've become unhappy with it. The Breeze2 is such a FAT monitor and bulky in comparison too.. It has to leave room for that disc mechanism.. So -- and hey -- maybe something happened to my monitor.. In its early days I remember inserting the bloody end INTO the meter.. Maybe I broke it then.. I just love the disc concept of never touching or inserting another strip. That's huge.. And there IS USB connection on a Breeze2. Not sure why an earlier poster said you'd need a Contour to get that feature. The Breeze2 in their 'newer' meter from Bayer.
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Weight mngm't: 288 (7/15/09) | 262 (2/7/10) | but down a total of 26 lbs
Regained 2 lbs after adding back a tiny bit of Novalog to my regimen. - Have to stay off it for now.
Exercise reg: 1hr at gym or 1 mile walk weather permitting 3-4x/week
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:38 PM
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Your Breeze2 doesn't have a USB port, mine does, or do you just prefer the Contour? The Contour USB was my first meter and I soon tired of fumbling with the individual strips.
There is a connection for a USB cable for the Breeze2. And I agree with you on the strips. I really like the 10 strip wheel the Breeze2 uses!
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