[Schlep]

I am interested to hear from anyone taking the Vitabase blood sugar formula and the results that they have had.

Thanks

[wiseguy]

Originally Posted by Schlep

I am interested to hear from anyone taking the Vitabase blood sugar formula and the results that they have had.

Thanks

These concoctions contain a variety of substances that are known to help reduce blood glucose levels. The problem is that they are not in near the quantity needed to produce results at the recommended dosage. So in my opinion they are totally useless.

[xMenace]

Someone's making lots of money, but you're not getting any better.

[Schlep]

Okay - thanks for the opinions but I would like to hear from anyone who actually has tried these.

[jeni]

You can always check out ______________for reviews on different products.

[Schlep]

Originally Posted by jeni

You can always check out ______________for reviews on different products.

I did check that out was not sure if the reviews were unbiased or not.

[Old man]

I just replied to this question in the above "Which supplements do you take" so this is sort of a double post.
Tried a few bottles of Vitabase blood sugar formula and it seemed to do no harm. I found Nature's Way Completia Diabetic Tabs which I think is a good multi-vitamin and mineral supplement and it has everything listed in the Vitabase product at $14.95 per 90 tabs at Highlife-vitamins. I take one tablet three times per day. I did not notice a lowering of my usual 100 to 110 fasting levels. As a matter of fact after about a year I now have fasting of around 120. I actually think the Vitabase ingredients have neither helped nor hurt. Maybe someone with higher numbers would benefit. If I can't lower mine soon I may take a trip to the vet to get some met.

[Alice]

Since supplements aren't regulated, they can make all the claims they want and not have to provide research and testing to prove results. This is a huge loophole in the supplement business...and the reason why so many people are making huge amounts of money selling this stuff.

I don't think these things can "hurt"...but I'd take them with a grain of salt and knowing you are handing money over to a company that doesn't have to provide results.

I have a friend who is an attorney for such a company.

Someone is making a lot of money selling cinnamon right now (a few people)...who would have thought? (No, I don't want to hear about the miracles cinnamon provides...research and the ADA say nothing has been proven)

When it has been proven, then I'm open to spending money.

[Schlep]

Originally Posted by Alice

Since supplements aren't regulated, they can make all the claims they want and not have to provide research and testing to prove results. This is a huge loophole in the supplement business...and the reason why so many people are making huge amounts of money selling this stuff.

I don't think these things can "hurt"...but I'd take them with a grain of salt and knowing you are handing money over to a company that doesn't have to provide results.

I have a friend who is an attorney for such a company.

Someone is making a lot of money selling cinnamon right now (a few people)...who would have thought? (No, I don't want to hear about the miracles cinnamon provides...research and the ADA say nothing has been proven)

When it has been proven, then I'm open to spending money.

I do not dispute any of this and that is why I asked for comments from those who have tried the supplement.

If we all close our eyes to everything that is said no one would be using insulin now as for every statement made someone can find a claim for it and one against it.

What about those that say there is a cure for diabetes out there but there is to much money to be made by not disclosing the cure.

What about the FDA approving nutra sweet if you read up on it you will find that it originally started as an ant poison and the FDA denied its use. Now it is okay?

So please in my post I asked for opinions from those that had used it to see what the results are. Don't be so sure that the FDA and other government departments are looking out for your best interest all the time.

Why has the FDA not approved stevia?

[AliB]

Hi. I am one of those people you have been wanting to hear a reply from.

I have been taking the Vitabase Blood Sugar Formula for over a month now. It has brought my sugar levels down from consistently over 300 to within, or just above 'normal' range.

I am absolutely delighted with the result. Not only is it cheap, it works.

You have to be sensible with your food control and limit the carbs - particularly if you are trying to lose weight, which is how Diabetics should eat anyway. If it is used as an excuse to pig out or carry on eating too much food and too much rubbish, it will not work.

My doc took me off insulin and put me on to Byetta, but took me off after 3 months as although it had helped me lose some weight (by making me feel so ill and giving me raging diarrhea), it had not touched my blood sugar levels and he felt the awful side effects weren't worth the sacrifice.

The day after going back on the insulin I started the Vitabase, getting virtually instant results which are improving all the time, and haven't looked back since. I get such a kick out of seeing most readings now consistently within in normal range!

Hey all you cynics out there - don't knock it till you've tried it! Give me a natural remedy over toxic drugs and their horrendous side effects any day!

[wiseguy]

Originally Posted by Alice

Someone is making a lot of money selling cinnamon right now (a few people)...who would have thought? (No, I don't want to hear about the miracles cinnamon provides...research and the ADA say nothing has been proven)

What does the ADA have to do with it? These are the morons that tell you that an A1c under 7% is just fine. And how about the position of Richard Kahn, Chief Scientific Officer of the ADA, that there's no value in using an insulin pump, or a CGM system, or even a fingerstick meter if you're a Type 2 not on insulin.

In other threads, I have shown plenty of proof that cinnamon does help lower blood glucose levels in type 2 diabetics. I will not go into all of that again here.

[wiseguy]

Originally Posted by Schlep

Don't be so sure that the FDA and other government departments are looking out for your best interest all the time.

Why has the FDA not approved stevia?

Stevia has been approved by the FDA as a supplement but not as a sweetener. So it won't hurt you if you ingest it as a supplement, but don't dare use it to sweeten your coffee. Just another example of the FDA's ties to big business. Stevia is a natural substance that cannot be patented and therefore is detrimental to the profits of the sugar substitute industry.

[Alice]

ADA aside, there needs to be some protection of people who throw money into hope. It's my personal option to wait and review research and testing before giving someone my money. I find fault with ADA for many things (lack of public education for one...related to my issue with supplements)... but they are at least a body working, with all their faults, toward filtering some of this mis-information that permeates our community.

Those that say they benefit from a supplement are also using other methods that can reduce glucose...such as meds, exercise & diet.

To say that a supplement has magically reduced someones glucose level is very misleading and dangerous.

But, in the US, people can hand their money to whatever hope they wish for...

Diet supplements, muscle-building supplements...I think it's a cagey business. My opinion...but I have a hard time watching these forums fill up (not just DF) with ads for supplements via postings. Not suggesting that's what the original poster is doing, but without expressing my opinion on the lack of regulation, a lot of people only get the "sell"...not the caution.

[Schlep]

Originally Posted by Alice

ADA aside, there needs to be some protection of people who throw money into hope. It's my personal option to wait and review research and testing before giving someone my money. I find fault with ADA for many things (lack of public education for one...related to my issue with supplements)... but they are at least a body working, with all their faults, toward filtering some of this mis-information that permeates our community.

Those that say they benefit from a supplement are also using other methods that can reduce glucose...such as meds, exercise & diet.

To say that a supplement has magically reduced someones glucose level is very misleading and dangerous.

But, in the US, people can hand their money to whatever hope they wish for...

Diet supplements, muscle-building supplements...I think it's a cagey business. My opinion...but I have a hard time watching these forums fill up (not just DF) with ads for supplements via postings. Not suggesting that's what the original poster is doing, but without expressing my opinion on the lack of regulation, a lot of people only get the "sell"...not the caution.

I don't think anyone can be quick to judge unless they have tried something and it did not work. To spend $10.00 on a supplement to see if it works and the claims are true or false is something after getting as much information as I can I think myself and others have the right to do.

My goodness what happens if something actually works will you continue to deny it or wait for the FDA to okay it in 10 years?

They okayed saccharin and what happened there? And what about thalidomide?

[notme]

Originally Posted by Alice

ADA aside, there needs to be some protection of people who throw money into hope. It's my personal option to wait and review research and testing before giving someone my money. I find fault with ADA for many things (lack of public education for one...related to my issue with supplements)... but they are at least a body working, with all their faults, toward filtering some of this mis-information that permeates our community.

Those that say they benefit from a supplement are also using other methods that can reduce glucose...such as meds, exercise & diet.

To say that a supplement has magically reduced someones glucose level is very misleading and dangerous.

But, in the US, people can hand their money to whatever hope they wish for...

Diet supplements, muscle-building supplements...I think it's a cagey business. My opinion...but I have a hard time watching these forums fill up (not just DF) with ads for supplements via postings. Not suggesting that's what the original poster is doing, but without expressing my opinion on the lack of regulation, a lot of people only get the "sell"...not the caution.

Originally Posted by Schlep

I don't think anyone can be quick to judge unless they have tried something and it did not work. To spend $10.00 on a supplement to see if it works and the claims are true or false is something after getting as much information as I can I think myself and others have the right to do.

My goodness what happens if something actually works will you continue to deny it or wait for the FDA to okay it in 10 years?

They okayed saccharin and what happened there? And what about thalidomide?

I can see valid points in both posts. My big concern is that people get "sold" on some item (and there are SO many claims to cure) and they damage their health taking a so called natural suppliment. Many of these natural suppliments are harmful if taken in excess.

The American public, in general, is gullable. There does need to be someone or body of people that protect the public from the scammers that tell us we will be cured if we ingest some foreign substance.

If a miracle cure or suppliment is found, you can be assured that word will get out. Claiming that a suppliment will lower your blood sugar enough to give up taking insulin is pretty wreckless. I would hope that people would be careful when experimenting with this drastic decision.

Honestly, I would be much more inclined to believe this type of claim from a long time poster on our site who tried something new and found it to be amazing. I am always leary of people that post without an introduction and claim a miracle drug is out there. No offense intended to anyone. Just my opinion.