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11-01-2009, 01:16 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northeast USA
Posts: 733
| | | Lisinopril - NOT! -- What next? Any experience?
Hey gang,
I wanted to see what Metformin and Lantus did before I started any Blood Pressure or Cholesterol meds that the Dr ordered for me back in July. I like to log side effects from one med at a time.
Well started the Lisinopril 8 days ago. From about day 4 I noticed a little tickle in the back of my throat that was reminiscent of the feeling I used to get that eventually put me on Nexium; silent reflux - that never gave me heartburn but injured my larynx. So I thought I'd just had some reflux and by the next day it usually settles down. Well from Day 4 to Day 8 it kept increasing to the point of causing a dry cough and a lot of feeling like someone was putting their finger down my throat -- creating a bit of a gag reflex.
So I went to the net and a little reading quickly revealed that this is a pretty typical side effect of Lisinopril (I hadn't looked up side effects BEFORE I started it - I've stopped doing that for fear of hypochondria affecting my judgment). I knew that most BP meds gave some dizziness and headaches but those side effects were starting to affect my day as well. Some reported that all Lisinopril side effects will eventually go away. But I'm not willing to accept these --at all. There are many BP meds out there to try. In a week my BP readings hadn't gone down at all either. But it probably needs to build up in my system.
Did any of you have a bad experience or have similar side effects to mine on Lisinopril?
And then what did you end up on for Blood Pressure that proved minimal (to no) side effects for you?
Any help would be great! |
11-01-2009, 01:23 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 1,875
| | | When my doc started me on b/p meds, he used Lisinopril, with the adamant instructions that if I developed "the cough", I was to report to him for a change of meds.
I did develop "the cough", and he immediately switched me to Atenolol. End of story - I'm fine on Atenolol.
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11-01-2009, 01:35 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 5,422
| | | I am on ramipril and coughed once -- the first time I took it.
My husband got put on an ARB for coughing on an ACE inhibitor. It now costs him 50 bucks a month copay, and he is considering switching back to an ACE inhibitor and trying to adjsut to it.
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5% 
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
11-01-2009, 01:36 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: France
Posts: 186
| | | I'm absolutely fine on Lisinopril, but my husband had the cough. Some people get it, some don't. On the other hand, I tried Atenolol and could barely keep my eyes open. It's pretty YMMV with anti-hypertensives. |
11-01-2009, 02:18 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northeast USA
Posts: 733
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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny  When my doc started me on b/p meds, he used Lisinopril, with the adamant instructions that if I developed "the cough", I was to report to him for a change of meds.
I did develop "the cough", and he immediately switched me to Atenolol. End of story - I'm fine on Atenolol. | Thanks, Shanny. My doc gave me no such warning..  He's known me thru the 'hypochondria years' and was the one who suggested I not read too much about side effects before starting. He said the 'problematic' 'dangerous' side effects you'll feel immediately and know to stop and get to the ER. Other than that most can 'adjust' well if you 'don't read about them' and psych yourself out.. I don't know about his wisdom on that front. Quote:
Originally Posted by foxl I am on ramipril and coughed once -- the first time I took it.
My husband got put on an ARB for coughing on an ACE inhibitor. It now costs him 50 bucks a month copay, and he is considering switching back to an ACE inhibitor and trying to adjsut to it. | I'm sorry Linda - what's an ARB? The accounts I've read of others tell me that no remedy got rid of the cough for them. A couple said they 'got used to the med' and no more cough - kinda like several of us acclimated to Met. Quote:
Originally Posted by Abra I'm absolutely fine on Lisinopril, but my husband had the cough. Some people get it, some don't. On the other hand, I tried Atenolol and could barely keep my eyes open. It's pretty YMMV with anti-hypertensives. | Yeah. It seems so. I can bear with some sleepiness, I think.. Fight it with Vitamin B and some caffeine, but the tickle/cough thing -- NO WAY.. And the dizziness -- well I could bear that if I knew I would acclimate eventually.
Thanks everyone so far!! Are some of them diuretics? Or Antidiuretics? Pros? Cons? |
11-01-2009, 03:07 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Boston
Posts: 109
| | I got put on lisinopril 2.5 for my kidneys according to my endo. I don't have any of the side effects, though the first couple weeks I took it I was totally dizzy. I guess it's because I don't have high blood pressure? I asked the doctor and she told me if it got worse to let her know, but she said this was the right drug for me because it's used to protect your kidneys.
Everyone is different. 
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Type 2 Diabetic
Changes:
10/8/09: 143 pounds 11/20/09 127
Medicine: Lantus (Started 10/8/09)
Metformin 500 2x daily (Started 10/19/09)
Lisinopril 5mg, up from 2.5 (Started 11/20/09), for my kidneys
100mg Effexor 2x daily, for anxiety
Buspar 2x daily as needed, for anxiety(Started 11/20/09
Alpha-Lipoic Acid 600mg
Omega 3 Mood, 2 capsules(2000mg)
Chromium 400mcg
Women's Ultra Mega Multivitamin(Gnc)
Last A1C, 8.5 after having a 10 on 10/8/09
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11-01-2009, 03:27 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas
Posts: 311
| | Been on Lisinopril for nearly a year now (5 mg.daily), and can't say I've had a problem one. How difficult it must be to be a Dr., and prescribe so many different medications, (including insulin), as we are all SO different.....  |
11-01-2009, 03:53 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 5,422
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Originally Posted by NewdestinyX Thanks, Shanny. My doc gave me no such warning.. He's known me thru the 'hypochondria years' and was the one who suggested I not read too much about side effects before starting. He said the 'problematic' 'dangerous' side effects you'll feel immediately and know to stop and get to the ER. Other than that most can 'adjust' well if you 'don't read about them' and psych yourself out.. I don't know about his wisdom on that front.
I'm sorry Linda - what's an ARB? The accounts I've read of others tell me that no remedy got rid of the cough for them. A couple said they 'got used to the med' and no more cough - kinda like several of us acclimated to Met.
Yeah. It seems so. I can bear with some sleepiness, I think.. Fight it with Vitamin B and some caffeine, but the tickle/cough thing -- NO WAY.. And the dizziness -- well I could bear that if I knew I would acclimate eventually.
Thanks everyone so far!! Are some of them diuretics? Or Antidiuretics? Pros? Cons? | ARBS, ACE Inhibitors - High Blood Pressure (Hypertension) and Related Information on MedicineNet.com
Diuretics do not preserve renal function as well as ACEs and ARBs. There is one nice link explaining what both classes of BP meds do!
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
11-01-2009, 04:00 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan
Posts: 528
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Originally Posted by NewdestinyX Hey gang,
Did any of you have a bad experience or have similar side effects to mine on Lisinopril?
And then what did you end up on for Blood Pressure that proved minimal (to no) side effects for you?
Any help would be great! | This is going to sound stupid but my dad had some bad experiences with blood pressure meds. My mom did some research and found that red wine helps blood pressure. Dad went off the meds, drinks 1/2 glass of red wine twice a day. His pressure is perfect.
Another one is my aunt, she refused to go on BP meds and opted for diet and exercise. She is fine also.
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Current Meds
Lantus 26 units Split dose
Novolog as needed
Metformin 1500mg
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11-01-2009, 04:30 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Carolina
Posts: 422
| | | I've been on ramipril for some time. I have actually NEVER had an abnormal blood pressure reading, but my doc insists that it is part of the D treatment protocol. That said, I have also had no side effects at all.
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DX T2 Sept 1999
Metformin 1000 mg
Lantus 16 units
Prandin based on carb load
Ramipril 10 mg
Crestor 20 mg
Multivitamin, B-12, D-3 daily
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11-01-2009, 06:33 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan
Posts: 528
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Originally Posted by plattb1 I've been on ramipril for some time. I have actually NEVER had an abnormal blood pressure reading, but my doc insists that it is part of the D treatment protocol. That said, I have also had no side effects at all. | Can you tell me why he says it is part of the D protocol? If a person doesn't have high blood pressure why would they take the drug? What else is it doing for you? I am not questioning your doc, I am truly ignorant to this. I had not heard this before. 
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Poppy
Current Meds
Lantus 26 units Split dose
Novolog as needed
Metformin 1500mg
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11-01-2009, 06:39 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 1,875
| | | I wonder if it's anything like the statin doc started me on at first. For all these years my lipids levels were stable, and were deemed acceptable for a non-diabetic patient, but when diabetes is added to the equation, the same lipid levels pose a greater risk. Sorta like diabetes added to the pregnancy equation makes it higher risk also.
__________________ "Reputation is what others know about you.
Honor is what you know about yourself." Lois McMaster Bujold "Courage is not the towering oak that sees storms come and go;
it is the fragile blossom that opens in the snow." Alice Mackenzie Swaim
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11-01-2009, 06:45 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan
Posts: 528
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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny I wonder if it's anything like the statin doc started me on at first. For all these years my lipids levels were stable, and were deemed acceptable for a non-diabetic patient, but when diabetes is added to the equation, the same lipid levels pose a greater risk. Sorta like diabetes added to the pregnancy equation makes it higher risk also. | AH like being boarder-line is okay, but throw D into the equation and the varibles change.....got ya!
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Poppy
Current Meds
Lantus 26 units Split dose
Novolog as needed
Metformin 1500mg
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11-01-2009, 06:50 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 1,875
| | Perfectly stated! You're much more concise than I! 
__________________ "Reputation is what others know about you.
Honor is what you know about yourself." Lois McMaster Bujold "Courage is not the towering oak that sees storms come and go;
it is the fragile blossom that opens in the snow." Alice Mackenzie Swaim
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11-01-2009, 07:00 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny Perfectly stated! You're much more concise than I! | Na,,,,just a lucky guess
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Poppy
Current Meds
Lantus 26 units Split dose
Novolog as needed
Metformin 1500mg
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