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12-05-2008, 07:19 AM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 533
| | | Welcome,
Panic, yes that is a good word for finding your world upside down.. But after a couple years of dealing with the onset of diabetes I can say that if your serious in your approach and make sensible changes it can be in some ways a better life than you had..
For example. I was over weight by about 30 pounds. Ate mostly the wrong things. Had no regular exercise routine. Ate way too much food. Didn't like the way I looked and as you said, felt badly.. Much of which may be from apprehension of what you don't know. I can have my self nearly dead over a tooth ache. So I know how things can seem much worse than they are when I focus on them.
Now to the controversy at hand.. I think if you cut your carb intake to around 50 for breakfast and under 70 for meals, you will loose most of the tire, considering you also walk a half hour at least a day.. I do it twice often now. You don't have to give up anything, you just can't eat them like there is no limit or consequences. I mostly stick to food with whole grains for fiber when I can. I can't always. We have fruit with every lunch an on my cereal. No big deal as long as your not overdoing the total carbs. Its pretty simple once you figure it out.
Now as to the fat. Yes I worried a lot about the fact that low fat items have usually more fat. I had 90% blockages in four arteries and had to have bypass surgery about 5 years ago so I was very leery of that one. But oddly, by eating less, walking more and having a more balanced life, I have discovered my numbers improving over the past four years. I eat eggs and bacon and lunch meats on whole wheat for lunch. But I watch how much and try for low or no fat versions. We have low 4 carb (when figured for the fiber content), Ice cream for many deserts which has some fat of course. I just had a blood test a few weeks ago. It shows my coronary risk to be 2.1. That is way towards the low end of the suggested levels and is down from 3.8 a little each year for three years. My triglycerides are 37, they used to be up near 150. My good and bad cholesterol are at there best levels since I started having blood test 40 years ago.. My Cholesterol as 144, up a hair over last test, it was 135. I used to come in at 257. I am on a half dose of a stain to lower it.
But I think the activity and balance of foods, less of them has added to this result.
So I would have to think that for me at least, the body compensates when you eat smaller amounts and in the right combinations, along with exercise and medication.
One interesting fact for me is that I have never had lower morning after eating readings than when I have real bacon and eggs followed by my usual cereal which is always a high fiber and comes in somewhere under 20 actual carbs. I put some frozen berries cut in piece on it and a bit of splenda.
I don't know that everyone would keep things under control the same way, but I didn't expect these results either.
Oh yes, the fasting number was 100. It was 128 two years ago when the doctor pointed out I was most likely either type two or on the way.. I am doing what I can to stall that result. | 
12-05-2008, 09:46 AM
| | Junior Member
I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mobile
Posts: 48
| | | Me too, too! OK, I am a newly diagnosed Type 2. Totally floored at this diagnosis as I have always worked out, eaten healthy, yada yada, people always came to me for health advice! Now I am looking at a disease that I cannot wrap my mind around. No predisposition, none in my family, no gestational diabetes. But it is what it is. So, I am considering myself a guinea pig and reading everything I can get my hands on and trying everything I can afford. I am overdue to go back to the dr as she wants to put me on HBP meds just as a precaution. I do not want to be on any meds! My Ac1 was at 6 and she says I am at the door. My levels range from 150(High) in am to 70 during day. MOstly though in am it's around 128. One experiment that I have tried (ya'll tell me if this is crazy), is that if I eat Peanut M&M's (dark chocolate only) in the evening right before I pass out (3 jobs) my morning levels are typically LOWER. What's up? is it the peanut (fat, choco) mixture? Anyway, I will continue to be an experiment until I locate the fountain of youth, or the right combination for me! Any and all comments are appreciated and thoroughly enjoyed! | 
12-05-2008, 11:08 AM
| | Senior Member
I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 533
| | | Protein seems to help keep numbers lower at times. I have read that eating something like that at night can help. I have no factors in my past as you. I think its in the chemicals we are exposed to in every thing we eat or do. People didn't used to be in this boat like now. Everyone here in the country seem to have it. If you just starting out diet and exercise will perhaps bring your numbers down if you eat right and keep at you activity level being high. My worst part is I enjoy my after dinner nap. Its time now and I probably will, even though it may raise my numbers. Funny once in a while I have a much lower reading after laying down. Its just a crazy and unpredictable situation.
If your referring to high blood pressure med's in your letter you may want to reconsider that because its just too dangerous for your body to have high numbers. I avoid the diabetic med's for now, but not the high blood pressure. | 
12-05-2008, 11:25 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Brunswick Canada, eh
Posts: 8,646
| | I am so totally confused about ths thread. Not the fat and heart stuff. I don't believe saturated fat is bad for me at all, at least not from grass-fed animals. From seed-fattened, probably.
What confuses me is this original poster. A reading of 100 mmol/l should not only land the Moose in a hospital bed with a firm diagnosis of diabetes and DKA, but he should also be totally dead, deceased, and part of the past. If it's a test of 100 mg/dl, then this person did not get it from a British hospital, is probably not a brit living in the UK, but is likely a troll living in Vermont or Wyoming, the obvious abodes of Moosies and Moosites. A 100 mg/dl is on the total normal side and in no way indicates diabetes. If he is experiencing those diabetes-like symptoms, he should get more complete bloodwork via his doctor.  | 
12-05-2008, 11:28 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 5,103
| | John - The OP did mention a US significant-other, so perhaps the conversion was done but I also questioned it earlier with no clarification since 
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12-05-2008, 11:30 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Brunswick Canada, eh
Posts: 8,646
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Originally Posted by fgummett John - The OP did mention a US significant-other, so perhaps the conversion was done but I also questioned it earlier with no clarification since  |
What do Brit's call their GP? A GP? | 
12-05-2008, 11:42 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 5,103
| | | As I recall, Yes... a GP.
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