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Old 04-01-2009, 11:17 AM
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All in my head?

I recently got to thinking that maybe (despite having all the symptoms), I'm not really pre-diabetic at all.

The highest reading I've had (outside of my meter during my OGTT) has never been over 200.

Usually 2 hours post-prandial I'm between 80-140. It almost doesn't seem like it matters WHAT I eat. Sometimes it goes high (the other day I ate 15 carbs of rice cakes and went up to 167, some days I can eat pizza and not go that high).

Last night I was 111 before dinner, and an hour after I ate I was at 84. I just read an article that said normal glucose readings after eating are 70-150.

I've never had access to test during my bad hypos, but when I feel the starts of one, I'm usually at about 70, in my OGTT I got shaky and cold, and I was in the 60's. That's the lowest meter reading I've gotten.

I mean, I never go over 200 post-prandial. It does seem like sometimes my body kicks out more and sometimes it doesn't. I guess I feel very alone and want someone to tell me there's nothing wrong with me. My doctor is acting like there is absolutely nothing wrong with me, I just want someone to tell me I'm not heading down a bad road. Sorry, this is very needy, haha.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:23 AM
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You need to test two hours after eating, one hour is not going to be accurate.

If you have hypos, and your blood sugar goes over 150, then I would think that you are predabetic.

With regular exercise and a lower carb diet you could totally change that though.

I'm not going to tell you there is nothing wrong with you. I will tell you though, that it is manageable. Some people with pre diabetes use cinnamon capsules to help keep their blood sugar lower. Maybe that will help.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:23 AM
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At a diabetes technology meeting a couple of years ago, some guys from Germany presented some performance data for a continuous (actually every 15 minute) glucose monitor to be worn for three days. In adults with normal glucose metabolism (BMI under 25, fasting glucose under 100, 2 hour glucose on a GTT of under 140), 80 percent of the readings were under 100. That's 20 out of 24 hours. So after meals, the glucose goes up for an hour or two at the most, and then is back under 100 (not 140!). That is PERFECTLY NORMAL (or healthy) glucose.
Are your BG readings normal or a sign that you need to take some action
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:23 AM
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that if your blood sugar goes over 140 - 2 hours after a meal it means something isnt ticking right on the inside. Sounds to me like your pancreas is sputtering in and out of functioning properly.

But I dont really know a whole lot. Just another diabetic who thinks she knows a little bit of something
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:46 AM
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that if your blood sugar goes over 140 - 2 hours after a meal it means something isnt ticking right on the inside. Sounds to me like your pancreas is sputtering in and out of functioning properly.

But I dont really know a whole lot. Just another diabetic who thinks she knows a little bit of something

Best to look it up -- American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists says:



Prediabetes currently refers to people who have IFG
(100-125 mg/dL [5.6-6.9 mmol/L]), IGT (2-hour postglucose
load, 140-199 mg/dL [7.8-11 mmol/L]), or both.
There is a continuous spectrum of glucose levels
between those considered normal (fasting <100 mg/dL
[<5.6 mmol/L]; postchallenge <140 mg/dL [<7.8 mmol/L])
and those that are considered diagnostic for diabetes (fasting
≥126 mg/dL [≥7 mmol/L]; postchallenge ≥200 mg/dL
[≥11.1 mmol/L]). IGT should be considered more important
for risk than IFG.

The upper limit of normal fasting plasma glucose
is widely believed to be 99 mg/dL (5.5 mmol/L) although
metabolic and vascular abnormalities have been described
recently at values less than that. Similarly, 2-hour postglucose
levels less than 140 mg/dL (7.8 mmol/L) are believed
to be within the reference range.


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Old 04-01-2009, 07:50 PM
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IThe highest reading I've had (outside of my meter during my OGTT) has never been over 200.
If it was over 200, you'd be full-blown diabetic...you're not in that range yet, but you have had *some* readings out of the "normal" range, right? If so, then sorry, but that just means you're not full-blown diabetic yet, not that you're not pre-diabetic.

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It does seem like sometimes my body kicks out more and sometimes it doesn't.
That is very possible. Your pancreas may be working better some days (or times of day) than others and/or your insulin resistance may be worse at some times than others.
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:15 PM
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I used my meter during my 5-hour OGTT. I didn't test twice, and I suppose I should have, but all the other numbers came out within the 20% error margin, except fo the 1st hour. My meter said 245, but the lab got 185 (I think, or 182).

I'm thinking about asking for a repeat test, but the thought of sitting in the lab for another 5 hours seems daunting. Maybe I could do a 2 hour. On the first test, I had a reactive hypoglycemia episode, and it was horrible once I hit hour 4&5.
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:23 PM
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" Originally Posted by angelsbridges
It does seem like sometimes my body kicks out more and sometimes it doesn't."

"That is very possible. Your pancreas may be working better some days (or times of day) than others and/or your insulin resistance may be worse at some times than others."

I agree, i believe depending on what activity you have or havent done will affect your insulin resistance on those certain days or times. Are you overweight?
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:28 PM
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No, I'm 5'3", 110ish lbs.
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:33 PM
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have you lost weight recently or gained?
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:43 PM
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Well, yes. In the last year and a half I gained 35lbs. In the last 6 months, I've lost around 10 (I finally forced myself to STOP eating all the time).

I never thought about it until recently as being weird, because I was only 80lbs before I gained. So I didn't think it odd because I didn't mind the weight.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:10 PM
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usually when your diagnosed you have lost around 15 pounds or more because the sugar/carbs your eating isnt being turned into fat because not enough insulin in your blood stream. But maybe since you gained 35 pounds your body reacted by making you insulin resistant for awhile and if you add a little weight training to build muscle mass instead of fat, you might be able to avoid diabetes. Which honestly if i had your numbers even with just pills, i would be happy as a diabetic.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:13 PM
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the weight loss happens within a couple months usually, i lost 30 pounds in a span from April to July then slowly lost another 20 over the years.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:18 PM
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Well, about 2.5 years ago is when I lost a ton of weight. I lost about 20/25lbs in the course of a few months. They never checked my blood sugar then, and I came back positive for mono at the time, so they told me it was mono that made me lose that much. I was unable to gain weight after that until the last year and a half. I overdosed and was hospitalized, and after that I started drinking tons of milk (I'd go through 2 gallons/2 days), and then that sort of opened a gate to where I started eating ALL of the time, and never got full, and gained 35lbs. (I don't have any damage from the OD though). Could it all be related? Most of my symptoms started in the last year and half though...but I suppose maybe stuff could have started 2.5 years ago, type II and LADA can take a while for symptoms to show, right?

I'm hoping to get tested for LADA soon, but I'll probably have to wait until at least June. My biological father as an autoimmune, and all 4 of my grandparents are type II.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:23 PM
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That is what it seems to be doing to me also. Some days my fasting is under 100, others it is over 100. Sometimes I can eat very little carbs and go high, and then eat more later and it be lower.

I say that just to let you know your not the only one doubting your dx. I am planning on seeing another doctor, just to make sure because just in case I am they can help me get on the right meds, or if I am not advise me on how to prevent it.

Unless it is blatantly obvious I like to get 2 opinions, that's what my brother did, despite he never takes his meds, is overweight and a lazy bum, he still got a second opinion, what you do with the doctors information is up to you. For health sakes I hope you take it seriously, as I am starting to really realize this is something that can be very hazardous to you if not taken care off.

I wish you the best of luck in your situation.
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