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04-19-2009, 09:46 PM
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| | | Venting I LOVE Chinese food.
It seems to be the ONLY thing that spikes my blood sugar (that I like to eat).
It's been over 3 hours since I ate and I'm at 140.
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY????
I would gladly trade bagels for Chinese food! | 
04-19-2009, 11:02 PM
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| | | Girl, enjoy it..lol..I had some last week...7 u of rapid and came home at 11.3 (203) ..and bear in mind, I had no rice or noodles....oy...
I would love a bagel too, now that you mention it......
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04-20-2009, 06:45 AM
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| | | I don't know...for an occasional treat 140 after 3 hours isn't that bad in my opinion...
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04-20-2009, 06:56 AM
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| | | Bridgette,
What did you eat?
I eat chinese from time to time, I have over time found various dishes that work for me. I generally go for egg noodles in preference to rice as they work better for me.
I have also found that Thai food works even better for me.
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04-20-2009, 07:18 AM
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| | | I try to eat the shrimp and veggies to keep my BS low. Water chestnuts definitely will bring me up; who would think those little crunchy things could do that?
I never touch any noodles or rice because I know I can't tolerate those.
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A1C changes: 6.8-->6.6-->6.5-->6.1-->6.4-->7.2 --> 6.0-->6.4-->6.3-->5.9!!! (June 2009) (I am so happy I made the 5 club)!
Type 2 or 1.5?
Not so hot any more.
Lantus
Humalog
I have my ups and downs.
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04-20-2009, 07:21 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sarasota (sort of) Florida
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| | | No rice. No wonton soup. No sweet and sour anything.
Otherwise chinese doesn't bother me too much.
Of course at 140 I don't even blink. I don't reach for insulin until I hit 150.
Now bagels. Oh My God. But I do cheat and have a half every now and then. But I'll pay for it.
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04-20-2009, 07:27 AM
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| | | Some chinese restaurants have a" diet menu" that allows you to get the meal with sauce and rice on the side. Just have to find out which ones will allow you to do this. With more and more people eating low carb diets, would expect more places to offer this. Guess who is else loves a chinese meal once in a while. | 
04-20-2009, 12:13 PM
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| | | Hi Bridgette!
Eating in any restaurant is a gamble. My guess is that your favorite Chineese restaurant is probably using a lot of sugar in their cooking -- usually to apeal to their customer base.
Do you have a good Chinesse grocery anywhere nearby? I've found that most of the sauce bases have little to no sugar added (Hoisin being the exception -- that is almost pure sugar as it is simply a distilation of plums). You can find all the sauces that make your favorite dishes and you can make them at home. I do this all the time.
You might also try a different restaurant or simply tell them not to add sugar.
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04-20-2009, 12:21 PM
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| | | Yes ... become a REGULAR at one good Chinese Restaurant. Make sure they get to know you! And ask for no sugar.
Another "secret" to dining well in a Chinese restaurant:
1) ask if they have a "chinese" menu, in English. Often there are dishes that do not pander to american tastes, there. Some good and interesting stuff!
2) ask what vegetables are "fresh, today." And get them prepared in garlic or very lightly sauced.
I learned this from a Taiwanese friend before I had diet limitations. It works, every time! (and, of course still specify no sugar!).
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04-20-2009, 12:57 PM
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| | Hmmmmmmmmm, could it be the simple ingredients found in most Chinese Foods? Here's a quote from Richard K. Bernstein taken from the following URL: "The explanation lies in what I call the Chinese restaurant effect. Often Chinese restaurant meals contain large amounts of protein or slow-acting, low-carbohydrate foods, such as bean sprouts, bok choy, mushrooms, bamboo shoots, and water chestnuts, that can make you feel full."
That reply was to a question such as you've posed above, or:
"How can these low-carbohydrate foods affect blood sugar so dramatically?" Strange Biology PHENOMENA PECULIAR TO DIABETES THAT CAN AFFECT BLOOD SUGAR
Just another day in which I add something else that I didn't know about diabetes, ........ sigh!
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04-20-2009, 06:47 PM
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| | | I know how you feel, I could eat eggdrop wonton soup everyday. Oh well what can you do? | 
04-20-2009, 11:06 PM
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| | | It's the sauces that are the devil! Have you considered a Mongolian BBQ type place? I went to my first one the other day while traveling, a restaurant called BD's. Basically, you build the stir fry. You decide which meats, veggies, etc go into it and at what portions. You also choose the sauce (can sort of create your own by mixing sauce and adding spices). On the table they had a card listing the nutrition facts including carbs for all the sauces. That seems like an easy way to enjoy the type of food you lvoe and control the carbs you are getting.
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04-21-2009, 07:26 AM
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| | | Chinese is so tricky with all the sauces they use. You never know what is in it! BTW- You said it is the only thing that runs it up. Does pizza run your sugar up at all? That is the one thing I can count on to run mine up! | 
04-21-2009, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by angelsbridges I LOVE Chinese food.
It seems to be the ONLY thing that spikes my blood sugar (that I like to eat).
It's been over 3 hours since I ate and I'm at 140.
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY????
I would gladly trade bagels for Chinese food! |
Hi Angelsbridges,
I have to say I'm really surprised at your over-reaction to a reading of 140 - this equates to 7.78mmol - in Australia anything up to 144 (8 mmol/L) is considered NORMAL - for diabetics and non-diabetics alike - didn't realise folks on this forum got so upset and worked up over such small variances !!!!
Try not to sweat the small stuff, it's bad for your BGLs! 
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04-22-2009, 08:19 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Fla
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| | | Hmmmmmmmmm, Ms. Kitty, I know a few Aussie health professionals from my prior networking business, & I'm positive that you must be mistaken about readings of 144 being normal. Human beings are the same in that way as they are in any continent. I personally have never had an A1c reading above 7.2, but I have no doubt that I'm a confirmed T2 & need t/b ever watchful.
Could it be that we're NOT talking (posting) about the same scale here?
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T2, diagnosed 2004.
Janumet 50/500mg 2X/day
Glipizide 5mg/day
Lotrel 10/40mg/day
Hydrochlorot 25mg/day
Plavix 75mg 3X/week
Crestor 10mg 3X/week
Low Dose Aspirin 2 81mg/night
Several supplements, too many to list here!
Initial A1c 6.9 '04
High since then 7.2
Low since 2004, 6.2
Presently taking Metabolic Syndrome Formula daily
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