Dinner BS results~normal or not?

eliza0104 · #1 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 05:32 PM

Here's tonight's observations:

Before dinner~87

45 min's PP BS~157

1 hour PP BS~ 163

1.5 PP BS~64

I'm shocked at how fast my #'s changed from 1 hour to 1.5 hours. Wondering what you all think of these #'s in general, good or is the 163 too high?

GayleM · #2 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 05:45 PM

[quote=eliza0104;462447]Here's tonight's observations:

Before dinner~87

45 min's PP BS~157

1 hour PP BS~ 163

1.5 PP BS~64

Well....145 is the top range BG should ever reach by new standards. That's also a SEVENTY SIX point jump from your before dinner reading. Most people try to keep to no more than 40 point increase, if that.

I am not a doctor, of course, but since you asked, YES! Those numbers are way high, especially given your pre-meal number. Here's the key questions - What exactly did you eat? In what portions? How many carbs was it?

You may have just gone to high on your portion control. What was the total carbs you are trying to stick to at dinner?

It's wonderful you are testing!!! Like this meal showed you some surprising results, your meter will continue to tell you what is going on

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eliza0104 · #3 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 06:02 PM

I had a small boneless skinless chicken breast (don't know the carb count), and about 30 grams of carbs in sides.

I had a typical meal for me. I'm confused by the fact that my doctor wants me to check my BS but follow a diabetic diet. What will the dx be if my BS is normal all the time? non diabetic, prediabetic or diabetic (considering my 6.4% A1C)

I honestly don't know how many carbs I should be eating in a meal. I guess I'm trying to figure that out with trial and err. But I agree the jump from pre meal to PP is almost doubled in 1 hour and then 30 min's later it's down by almost 100 points! Seems to be some crazy swings in there!

GayleM · #4 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eliza0104

I had a small boneless skinless chicken breast (don't know the carb count), and about 30 grams of carbs in sides.

I had a typical meal for me. I'm confused by the fact that my doctor wants me to check my BS but follow a diabetic diet. What will the dx be if my BS is normal all the time? non diabetic, prediabetic or diabetic (considering my 6.4% A1C)

I honestly don't know how many carbs I should be eating in a meal. I guess I'm trying to figure that out with trial and err. But I agree the jump from pre meal to PP is almost doubled in 1 hour and then 30 min's later it's down by almost 100 points! Seems to be some crazy swings in there!

It gets awfully confusing, doesn't it? May I ask what the sides were? even thought the carbs totaled a reasonable 30, maybe there was a culprit in the sides that you don't handle well. I can handle a small baked potato at night, for example. But my neighbor's numbers go through the roof with any amount of potato. You just might not be able to do 30 carbs at dinner. Keep eating the same way tomorrow and see if the results differ greatly.

There's alot of debate on if an A1C is enough to diagnose from. I'd trust your monitor to give you the facts. I know I had some ambiguous results at first. You are doing great on your testing, keep it up for another full round of meals and let's see what that shows.

As for how many carbs, unless you have a job where you are physically working hard all day, a common total amount of carbs I see folks eating is 100-120. That is generally spread out between 3 meals and two snacks of 10-15 carbs each. I can handle more carbs at breakfast, less at lunch and more at dinner. We are all different that way. Once you find your peak, test around your meals mixing up the amount of carbs for each for a week or two and that will hopefully show you what times of day you can have more carbs.

Once you get through finding you peak and then testing after every meal at that peak time (and before meals sometimes just for comparison) I would take that info to your doc.

Please let us know how this works for you!

genie86333 · #5 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 06:40 PM

It may also be that 30g of carbs is too much for you at once - that may be why your blood sugar dropped too far too quickly - the carbs & slightly-too-high blood sugar may have triggered your body to produce too much insulin, causing too much of a drop.

foxl · #6 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 06:49 PM

30 g of carb per meal is not very much ... but it really may be too much for you, at least without adding a med.

Try eating 15 ... or 20 and see what your peak is.

The other factor (and it gets a little confusing) is glycemic index. How quickly could the carbs you ate be absorbed? If it was a mashed potato, or white bread or rice, it might be absorbed more quickly. Lentils or beans, or even whole grain brain or rice, might be absorbed more slowly. Or a high-fiber vegetable. What kind of carbs were these?

I also gave a rule of thumb on your other thread.

Sometimes these things change with time or weight loss, too and you can tolerate more carbs later.

eliza0104 · #7 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 07:28 PM

Carbs were from baby baker potato and mixed veggies.

Is it safe to assume that if I wasn't pre-diabetic (or could I be diabetic?) that my #'s wouldn't spike that high?

I don't need to lose weight, as I am 138lbs at 5'7". Perhaps I need to eat fewer carbs?

sumi · #8 (**permalink**) 06-12-2009, 06:33 AM

Hi Eliza,
Your numbers are a bit unusual, but we are all different. I personally don't think that your 1 hour reading would do you damage, as it quickly returned to normal. However, it did seem to overshoot the mark at 64. So at the very least, this would indicate a wider swing than most people have. If you try adding fat to your meal, most people find that it has a 'smoothing' effect; your bg levels should rise more slowly, and peak lower at a longer time from your meal (maybe 3 hours). You may be surprised to find that many of us-certainly not all- have much better numbers by lowering carbs and upping fats. This includes better lipid profiles. So in my case, I would have added cheese or butter to the veggies and skipped the potato. As you can see, it will take some time to figure out how your body responds and what you feel comfortable with.

foxl · #9 (**permalink**) 06-12-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eliza0104

Carbs were from baby baker potato and mixed veggies.

Is it safe to assume that if I wasn't pre-diabetic (or could I be diabetic?) that my #'s wouldn't spike that high?

I don't need to lose weight, as I am 138lbs at 5'7". Perhaps I need to eat fewer carbs?

OH a POTATO. They are notoriously high glycemic index. I was raised on them, they are like mother's milk to me ... and I ahve not had one since ... February.