Orbit 90 infusion sets

alisa · #1 (**permalink**) 07-16-2006, 10:13 AM

Anybody tried these?
http://www.orbit90.com/orbit90.asp

Funnygrl · #2 (**permalink**) 07-22-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by alisa

Anybody tried these?
http://www.orbit90.com/orbit90.asp

Nope, but thinking about ordering the sample. I like that they will be sold in drugstores!

JasonJayhawk · #3 (**permalink**) 07-23-2006, 07:04 AM

I think it's crazy that in order to send one sample, they must contact your doctor's office. I guess this is their way of making sure that the request is logged, so that any future infusion sets you order will likely come right off your medical chart. I think they're marketing more towards the doctor than the patient, in this case.

Funnygrl · #4 (**permalink**) 07-23-2006, 07:26 AM

They need to contact your doctor so you can get a prescription.

godismdma · #5 (**permalink**) 08-30-2006, 07:28 PM

so has anyone tryed them yet pros cons???

squidsdc · #6 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 09:36 AM

I signed up for some samples when I was at the AADA conference in WDC and just received them. I'm on my second set and love them. I am currently battling to find out where I can purchase them that will be "in network" with my insurance company. I don't know where funnygirl saw it mentioned that they will be sold in drugstores...I must've missed that, but that will indeed be my next step in trying to acquire them.

PROS:
Aside from the fact that they rotate and don't get hung up or as easily tangled, I have experenced other pluses.

I have been using Insets, and like others, have had problems with the insulin pooling and also with itchiness from the adhesive. The Orbit 90 adheres without having to use a Skin-Prep or Tegaderm...only an alcohol swab is necessary. I have had NO incidences of itching, redness or swelling as I have had with the previous Insets. (and I have tried the Inset 30 as well as the straight-in inset, and the manually inserted angled Inset)

It comes in a 30" length. (24 is too short, 42 is too long!)

They are planning an all-in-one unit to debut early next year (currently they are inserted manually but I have been told the can be inserted with a separate serter device)

For two days straight my basal rates have appeared to be too high...due, I surmise, to the better absorption and lack of pooling of insulin.

CONS:
Can't find a place to purchase. Animas is where I currently buy my supplies, and they have been giving me the runaround since I have asked who to contact to request that they carry this product.

I've never been one to get over the hesitation when "jabbing" a syringe. I used to place the needle directly to the skin and then PUSH. I have had a bit of difficulty trying to adjust to the manual insertion, as it does have to be a "jab" motion rather than a "push". If I can get more samples, I'll hopefully be able to practice more and maybe get over my hangup on inserting them.

Sometimes a hassle to get a script, but if you get one from your dr have him write it as "Orbit 90 infusion sets CSII therapy" and fax to 949 613 7343.

Hopefully if more people start asking about these, they'll be easier to find and purchase.

Mich · #7 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 02:11 PM

Looks a lot like a Cleo 90 from Smith Medical. Only difference I can see is skin-tinted tape. Tubing and cannula lengths are similar. Cleo inserter is pretty amazing, but makes a lot of waste. Great for kids though. No pain. Noisy, colorful & spring-loaded.

Cleo tubing attaches in any direction on an octagon base but isn't free rotating (I put it on in the direction I want it to go) and it is less succepable to catching on things.

Other than that, it looks like a ringer. Any other opinions? Anybone who has used them both?

I'd love to see all pump supplies available in the drugstore in case of emergencies. (I got trapped away from home by a forest fire for three days once...)

squidsdc · #8 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 04:13 PM

I've not used the Cleos myself, but I did look on the website earlier today to try to see what they're like, since I've heard good things about them.

From what I understand, the tape is not just flesh colored, it actually has some sort of reaction with the salts/fluids in the skin to make a firm contact. The instructions say to make sure to have the tape come up to body temp. I confirmed this because I just got off the phone with a rep from the company, because I had some questions. I gotta run now to pick my husband up, but I'll try to post more later this evening and explain what happened this morning. (a small problem, but found out why it happened when I spoke with the rep)
I so hope someone else out there has tried them and can also post their experience?

squidsdc · #9 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by squidsdc

I've not used the Cleos myself, but I did look on the website earlier today to try to see what they're like, since I've heard good things about them.

From what I understand, the tape is not just flesh colored, it actually has some sort of reaction with the salts/fluids in the skin to make a firm contact. The instructions say to make sure to have the tape come up to body temp. I confirmed this because I just got off the phone with a rep from the company, because I had some questions. I gotta run now to pick my husband up, but I'll try to post more later this evening and explain what happened this morning. (a small problem, but found out why it happened when I spoke with the rep)
I so hope someone else out there has tried them and can also post their experience?

OK--I've got a few minutes, so I'll add to my previous post. (I didn't see an option to edit) I'll apologize in advance for the length...

I'm not a shill; I have no connection with the company or people involved. I'm just so excited to find something that works for me, and to have something to contribute to this website. I'm trying to explain why I think these work for me as best I can.

I think I mentioned before my aversion to "jabbing." As hard as I try it's just one of those things I've not been able to overcome. Well, I thought I might have an easier time trying to manually insert in my leg. I've not been able to do so successfully with the Insets, so it was even more of a challenge to see if I could be successful with the Orbit. I got it in, but I didn't think it was in all the way. That darn reflex, I keep pulling back! I thought I gave the tape enough time to set, but apparently did not. When I stood up to get dressed, the inset popped off. Thanks to pointers from this site, I hadn't yet removed my old set, so I used that until I got to work and could put a new one in. I only had a 9mm with me, but even though I'm used to the 6mm it was no problem inserting the 9mm. No pain like I've even experienced with the Insets. So for me, I think I need to have some sort of automatic inserter to be able to use any infusion set in my leg. I may be able to use the Orbit, but I'd need to have a larger supply instead of a few samples to feel as if I could experiment.

I'm not sure I can explain why I think the insulin doesn't pool, but I'll try. On the Insets, and it appears it's the same on the Cleo, the insulin is delivered sideways. Even though the cannula is at a 90 degree angle, the insulin goes in to the cannula from the side. It's the only explanation I can think of why the insulin pools, and when it does pool, it's always on one side. The Orbit delivers from atop the cannula, and I think that's why I haven't had the same problem with pooling and absorption. (just a theory)

If anyone has any questions about it, I'll try to answer, and promise to be more succinct!

SoonerMark · #10 (**permalink**) 09-05-2008, 10:33 AM

Anyone know where I can get the Orbit 90? Is it still available? I need to find a distributor in-network with United Healthcare. Any help is appreciated.
Mark

squidsdc · #11 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SoonerMark

Anyone know where I can get the Orbit 90? Is it still available? I need to find a distributor in-network with United Healthcare. Any help is appreciated.
Mark

I suggest going to the Orbit 90 website and emailing or calling them. I am currently working with them to find a DME in network provider with Carefirst BCBS. Additionally I contacted my insurance broker at work so they can also try to work on it from the other end.

SoonerMark · #12 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by squidsdc

I suggest going to the Orbit 90 website and emailing or calling them. I am currently working with them to find a DME in network provider with Carefirst BCBS. Additionally I contacted my insurance broker at work so they can also try to work on it from the other end.

I'll try that, thanks!

JungleJim · #13 (**permalink**) 09-06-2008, 03:29 PM

I have used the orbit 90s, and while the rotating design is a good idea, they seemed to be built "flimsy" to me. The luer lock connection wasn't too stout and if I twisted it too hard, it would strip and turn past the stopping point. The connection at the site seemed like it could have been heavier made. I did like that the site would turn in any direction.

However, I got the Orbits off ebay a couple of years ago, and got 65 sets for $75.00!! So I can't complain. I just used them occasionally to make my other orders last longer. Looking back on it, the guy who sold them to me probably stole them from somewhere. Oh well.