[poodlebone]

I had to change my set this morning, as well as my reservoir. I decided to use a Sure-T and try the top of my butt, a site that never worked for me with Quick-Sets. It was a little awkward inserting, but since the Sure-T has a tail with the connection at the end of the tail I knew I wouldn't have to keep twisting around to disconnect/reconnect, since the connection would be in a more accessible place.

So, I get the set in and go to hook up the main length of tubing. It's empty, because I forgot to prime it. Aarrrggh! Even though I get my sets through my insurance, I hate wasting anything. Plus, I only got one box of the Sure-T's and didn't want to just toss one in the trash. So I pulled the needle out, primed the tubing, and slapped it back in. I cut out a square of Hypafix and taped it back down.

I did this once with a Sof-Set and had to trash it. I love these Sure-T's because even when you mess up the insertion, it can still be fixed! And since the disconnect isn't at the site, you can tape right over the cannula portion.

[Funnygrl]

You can't prime a sure-t after it's in?

[poodlebone]

Originally Posted by Funnygrl

You can't prime a sure-t after it's in?

You can prime the main tubing, but I wouldn't know how much to prime to fill the remianing tubing (between the cannula and the connection) as well as the cannula. The tubing doesn't disconnect right at the site, there's another length of tubing left attached. So, priming while it's inserted could be dangerous if you give too much, or you could end up high if you don't prime enough.

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by poodlebone

You can prime the main tubing, but I wouldn't know how much to prime to fill the remianing tubing (between the cannula and the connection) as well as the cannula. The tubing doesn't disconnect right at the site, there's another length of tubing left attached. So, priming while it's inserted could be dangerous if you give too much, or you could end up high if you don't prime enough.

Ah, I figured that would be included in the fixed prime somewhere.

[spike]

Originally Posted by Funnygrl

You can't prime a sure-t after it's in?

Priming a set while installed isn't exactly a safe procedure, as you could end up pumping in so much insulin that you give yourself a nasty hypo. ALL types of sets should be primed BEFORE insertion. Your suggestion that a set could be primed is scary! I'm hoping you asked the question just to get an answer, rather than your question being a roundabout way of declaring that it is ok to prime with the set installed.

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by spike

Priming a set while installed isn't exactly a safe procedure, as you could end up pumping in so much insulin that you give yourself a nasty hypo. ALL types of sets should be primed BEFORE insertion. Your suggestion that a set could be primed is scary! I'm hoping you asked the question just to get an answer, rather than your question being a roundabout way of declaring that it is ok to prime with the set installed.

I put the set in, disconnect the tubing, do the prime, then plug back in for the fixed prime. I figured any set that had a disconnect could be primed after putting it in, as long as you disconnected the tubing.

I use the Insets usually, and when you put them in, the tubing is connected to the set, so you have to disconnect to prime.

[spike]

Originally Posted by Funnygrl

I put the set in, disconnect the tubing, do the prime, then plug back in for the fixed prime. I figured any set that had a disconnect could be primed after putting it in, as long as you disconnected the tubing.

I use the Insets usually, and when you put them in, the tubing is connected to the set, so you have to disconnect to prime.

THAT'S WRONG!!! You are supposed to prime all the way through the set (UNATTACHED!!!), THEN put the set in and do a fixed prime to fill the cannula, if the set has one. needle type sets do NOT get a fixed prime because the insulin is already at the tip of the needle. YOU SCARE THE H*LL OUT OF ME!

[June91]

Originally Posted by Funnygrl

You can't prime a sure-t after it's in?

You should't prime ANY SET once it's in! Very very very bad idea, Spike is right.

[Moonlitknight]

I do exactly as funnygrl does. I prime until 4 or 5 drips come out, then plug it in and do my fixed prime. I don't understand what the problem with that could be.
Please explain

[spike]

Originally Posted by Moonlitknight

I do exactly as funnygrl does. I prime until 4 or 5 drips come out, then plug it in and do my fixed prime. I don't understand what the problem with that could be.
Please explain

The ONLY prime you do AFTER the set is installed is the tiny .3, .5, .8, etc prime to prime the length of the cannula. But you DON'T put in the set and then prime from the tubing, because there is no specification for the proper amount to fill the top portion of the set, plus the cannula. What she is doing is violating the instructions given with the sets, and with safe procedure, UNLESS she just isn't doing what I think she is doing, in which case she might want to jump back on this thread and clarify. If I misunderstood her...fine...then there's no argument, but so far it sounds like she is doing it incorrectly. A thousand pardons if my inference was wrong.
IF you read her post again, she said she is doing the "prime" with the set in her, but NOT hooked up to the tubing. THAT, IN AND OF ITSELF IS WRONG!

[notme]

I have done the exact same thing with a quickset. The set is ruined once you do that. You can leave the canula in, but have to do a prime with a new set and then attach it so the already inserted canula. Waste! bleck

[spike]

Originally Posted by notme

I have done the exact same thing with a quickset. The set is ruined once you do that. You can leave the canula in, but have to do a prime with a new set and then attach it so the already inserted canula. Waste! bleck

who are you responding to, Nancy?

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by spike

THAT'S WRONG!!! You are supposed to prime all the way through the set (UNATTACHED!!!), THEN put the set in and do a fixed prime to fill the cannula, if the set has one. needle type sets do NOT get a fixed prime because the insulin is already at the tip of the needle. YOU SCARE THE H*LL OUT OF ME!

I'm doing it how the pump trainer told me to do it. I'm not priming the site while it's connected, I'm putting the set in, disconnecting the tubing, priming the tubing, then connecting the tubing to the set, and doing the fixed prime. So the site is in when I prime, but the tubing isn't connected to it.

I do think you are misunderstanding what I am saying, because I see nothing wrong with what I am doing. Put set in, prime, connect tubing. The only difference with the insets is when you put the set in, the tubing is connected, so you have to disconnect the tubing first.

I'm not saying prime the tuning with it connected to the site, I'm saying disconnect, then do the prime. I figured minimed would list some kind of fixed prime for the tail of the tubing in case what happend in the OP happened.

[spike]

Originally Posted by Funnygrl

I'm doing it how the pump trainer told me to do it. I'm not priming the site while it's connected, I'm putting the set in, disconnecting the tubing, priming the tubing, then connecting the tubing to the set, and doing the fixed prime. So the site is in when I prime, but the tubing isn't connected to it.

I do think you are misunderstanding what I am saying, because I see nothing wrong with what I am doing. Put set in, prime, connect tubing. The only difference with the insets is when you put the set in, the tubing is connected, so you have to disconnect the tubing first.

I'm not saying prime the tuning with it connected to the site, I'm saying disconnect, then do the prime. I figured minimed would list some kind of fixed prime for the tail of the tubing in case what happend in the OP happened.

Thanks for the clarification. MM only lists the amount to prime the cannula, not the entire Quick Set.

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by spike

Thanks for the clarification. MM only lists the amount to prime the cannula, not the entire Quick Set.

So were you misunderstanding me, or do you still think what I am doing isn't safe? Not a trick question...a serious one.