Pump Comparisons.....All about pumps/companies - Page 3

typeone · #31 (**permalink**) 01-21-2007, 03:02 AM

You said:
"Cozmo/Smiths Medical is also planning to release (in the very near future - by year's end) upgraded pumps that will have software integrated for use with the Abbott Navigator CGMS system (which will also be released soon)."

Where did you hear this? I can't find any information which links Cozmo to the Abbott Navigator, but I sure hope it's true, since I use a Cozmo.

typeone

Dewey · #32 (**permalink**) 01-21-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by typeone

You said:
"Cozmo/Smiths Medical is also planning to release (in the very near future - by year's end) upgraded pumps that will have software integrated for use with the Abbott Navigator CGMS system (which will also be released soon)."

Where did you hear this? I can't find any information which links Cozmo to the Abbott Navigator, but I sure hope it's true, since I use a Cozmo.

typeone

I spoke to both Abbott & Smiths Medical reps at a Diabetes Symposium, and each said the same thing. They intend on linking one to the other (at least that is their intentions) with the implementation of the new software. Of course, the year's end ('06) has come & gone, but hopefully soon...Still impatiently waiting...

Mama Belle · #33 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 02:07 PM

I have read through this thread and have a question that I don't think was really addressed. I know that with the Minimed pathway program you can upgrade your pump during the warranty if a new pump comes out (for a fee). Does Cozmo have the same type of thing? Their literature says the upgrades are free, but refer to software and not the pump itself. My daughter is soon to start on the pump (hopefully April) and we are leaning towards the Cozmo, but if we get a pump now and a new one comes out next year do they have a program similar to the pathway program, or does their claim of "free upgrades" refer to the pump as well as the software? I am confused.

Funnygrl · #34 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mama Belle

I have read through this thread and have a question that I don't think was really addressed. I know that with the Minimed pathway program you can upgrade your pump during the warranty if a new pump comes out (for a fee). Does Cozmo have the same type of thing? Their literature says the upgrades are free, but refer to software and not the pump itself. My daughter is soon to start on the pump (hopefully April) and we are leaning towards the Cozmo, but if we get a pump now and a new one comes out next year do they have a program similar to the pathway program, or does their claim of "free upgrades" refer to the pump as well as the software? I am confused.

They mean the on pump softwaren(not just computer software). So if a physically different looking pump comes out (like the shape changes, and it has new hardware) that is not likely to be free. However, the Cozmo 1800 was recently released. This is a new pump, with new software. It has a food database, and several new features. I have a Cozmo 1700. I, along with all Cozmo users, are getting the 1800 for free. It's the same thing as the Paradigm Pathway, only FREE!

Mama Belle · #35 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 05:41 PM

Thanks!!! That helps me a lot! We can't wait to get her pumping and are pretty excited about the Cozmo.

Funnygrl · #36 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mama Belle

Thanks!!! That helps me a lot! We can't wait to get her pumping and are pretty excited about the Cozmo.

Awesome! You'll love it, I bet!

BTW, your daughter is too darn cute.

Mama Belle · #37 (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 06:14 PM

Aww, thanks!

iron999mike · #38 (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 08:58 AM

By the way, if you order a cozmo now you should get the new pump (1800). So upgrades probably won't be a problem for a while unless they have a problem. I ordered mine on Dec 16th and got it a week later.

The only negative thing about Cozmo's upgrade program is that if you return your pump for an upgrade, they will send you a used (different one) back. They are supposedly tested or what not, but could have some cosmetic defects. I got this information from the Cozmo rep when I got my pump because I was just going to get the old model in purple (a color they are discontinuing) and upgrade the software when it came out. I decided to get the new pump and black instead because of this information.

Funnygrl · #39 (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by iron999mike

By the way, if you order a cozmo now you should get the new pump (1800). So upgrades probably won't be a problem for a while unless they have a problem. I ordered mine on Dec 16th and got it a week later.

The only negative thing about Cozmo's upgrade program is that if you return your pump for an upgrade, they will send you a used (different one) back. They are supposedly tested or what not, but could have some cosmetic defects. I got this information from the Cozmo rep when I got my pump because I was just going to get the old model in purple (a color they are discontinuing) and upgrade the software when it came out. I decided to get the new pump and black instead because of this information.

My current pump is a refurb. I sent my old pump back with a huge scratch on it. My current pump is spotless. And it works perfectly. They do not have cosmetic defects. A rep told me they only ship perfect looking pumps.

So you have the 1800 now?

iron999mike · #40 (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Funnygrl

My current pump is a refurb. I sent my old pump back with a huge scratch on it. My current pump is spotless. And it works perfectly. They do not have cosmetic defects. A rep told me they only ship perfect looking pumps.

So you have the 1800 now?

Well that is good news. I didn't want to take a chance. Really wanted purple though, darn.

I have the 1800 now yes. I got it on Dec 27th and started pumping on Jan 9th. I am a new pumper though and wasn't getting an upgrade. I am just guessing, but I am thinking the upgrades take longer as they probably put an priority on new customers. In there defense though, I am sure a mass operation upgrading all those pumps takes a while too.

I really like it compared to MDI, but have a few qualms about how the Cozmo user interface is laid out. They could have done a lot better in my opinion. I don't know if it is different from the 1700, but all the settings are laid out in a linear fashion. So if you want to change one thing, you have to go through the settings page for several others first.

Also why would the vibrate/beep setting require 9 button presses (getting in and out)?

Funnygrl · #41 (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 11:18 AM

Yeah, that 1700 is set up like that too. For the most part, I don't mind it. I do all my setting via computer, and the options you use a lot (bolusing, temp rate) require very little button pressing.

Do you use the food database or the weekly programming?

Dewey · #42 (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by iron999mike

I really like it compared to MDI, but have a few qualms about how the Cozmo user interface is laid out. They could have done a lot better in my opinion. I don't know if it is different from the 1700, but all the settings are laid out in a linear fashion. So if you want to change one thing, you have to go through the settings page for several others first.

Also why would the vibrate/beep setting require 9 button presses (getting in and out)?

Truthfully, other pumps have similar layouts. You have to go to setup in each one to get to the sounds. Now, maybe with Animas it requires fewer button presses, but it's not available on the fly on any pump. Like Funny said, you can also set things up via IR with the computer, which makes it easier.

I've upgraded in the past, but had my pump upgraded in person. The rep. came & took us out to eat (Score, lol - jk!

) and upgraded the pump while we all snacked.

I've also had to replace the pump once due to stress fractures on the battery housing. When I got the new one, it looked brand new (just like Funny's) - no scrapes, scratches, etc..

Overall, I love the Cozmo & have had no problems with the service, features or anything on it. It's good that you got the new one. I'm hoping (this has never been said to me, just a personal wish) that in the future, we'll be able to select our colors (i.e. purple, green, blue, ice blue, etc.), regardless of the model we get. That'd be awesome!

iron999mike · #43 (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 12:32 PM

I (un)fortunately don't have a microsoft computer. I did use my parents comp to mess around on it and program some of my favorite foods and back up my settings. I also managed to delete my blood sugar history. I heard the program wasn't great so wasn't expecting to use it so it wasn't a problem. My schedule is pretty stable at the moment, so i don't use the weekly schedule.

I don't mean to be picking on Deltec specifically. I did do a lot of research before I chose a pump and I still think the cozmo was the best choice. I think that all of the pumps I saw had this problem to some extent. I believe all of the pump companies could do a much better job with there user interface. The computer software is also an disappointment. It looks like it was an afterthought. Again not picking on Deltec, I have heard this is a case for other companies as well.

I am sure they will get better with time, but I am impatient and an perfectionist, and there is no technical reason that they could not have been better now.

Doug · #44 (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 08:18 PM

Megan from the Insulin Pumpers list put together a nice spreadsheet of the various pumps and features

I converted it to PDF for the masses
Its posted here in PDF http://dfw-iug.org/pump_compare3.pdf
and here in HTML
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org/faq/Page.htm

elsex3 · #45 (**permalink**) 02-17-2007, 02:32 PM

New to thread, but one thing smiths medical told me is that there is a great demand right now for this "upgrade" and just be patient, (obviously). But I think one of the greatest things ever about diabetes management, is the introduction of the integrated glucose monitor and pump.. It is the ease of multi testing that will make every pumper a pro! when the navigator comes out and (Im guessing) Talks with cozmo pump, this too will be Amazing.. I have been Type I since 86 and wish I could have had this precision tool the whole trip. But have only have been pumping for 1.5 yrs. LOVE IT!!!