[JediSkipdogg]

Originally Posted by duck

I'm pretty sure the x22's have the predictive alarms...I'll know more Wednesday night, MM has a class here in Manassas that I am attending. I'll check, and if anyone has any questions they'd like asked, post away.

The x22 has the arrows but not the predictive alarm. By predictive alarm I mean you can tell it to alarm at you say 30 minutes before you hit 80. Instead of having to set the alarm at 90 so that you don't hit 80 (if you chose that level.)

[NoelD]

Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg

1) Louder alarms on the Guardian s. 522/722
2) Charts by time of day. I'm drawing a blank, but I know the Guardian has more options vs. the 522/722 for the CGMS.
3) Predictive alarms. The guardian can predict in advance when you are going to hit a low. So it will allow you to correct before you hit that level.
4) Alert if you don't complete the prime. I can't tell you the number of times that I would be in the 300-400s in the morning without this SAFETY feature that BOTH Animas and Cozmo have.
5) Food database. Although I don't have this option, it would be nice to have to help me from guestimating.
6) Longer battery life. Maybe I'm just a partial environmentalist, but I like that I can save batteries and don't have to carry them around with me all the time to change.

I know there's more, but I can't recall all of them right now. However, The first three automatically make me lean away from the x22 series and be happy with just the CGMS standalone. Also, for me, and maybe not others, #4 by itself just leaves me away. I know with my Animas I can't stop at any part of the prime. It's all or alarm.

You see 3 and 24 hour windows, with night time and daytime clearly marked, and can scroll easily through a 24 hour period to see any point in it. I don't get your reasoning for that one. My alarm goes off at a pre-set level to alert me ahead of time that I may be getting too low. It's all in how you set it up. I'll give you the one about how quiet the alarms are. I agree, it's not loud enough to really do anything, until it vibrates and almost makes me jump out of my skin. Forgetting to prime is an operator error in my opinion, but when I rewind, it beeps every minute then every few minutes or so until I do prime it. I could do without that, but I can't ever see myself forgetting to prime. The food database is, meh, not something I'd personally use. I follow a strict diet and know exactly what I am going to eat 95% of the time anyway, so I don't ever see me using that, but it may be useful to some. Another thing, my pump hasn't cracked or died. I have seen a LOT of others lately having that problem and some have had that problem many times before.

[JediSkipdogg]

Originally Posted by NoelD

. Forgetting to prime is an operator error in my opinion, but when I rewind, it beeps every minute then every few minutes or so until I do prime it. I could do without that, but I can't ever see myself forgetting to prime.

It may be operator error, but I get distracted alot. There's also times in my infusion set change cycle that I change how I change my set. Sometimes I'll handle all pump functions before I change the set, sometimes I'll do it after. I guess maybe it's the hectic lifestyle I live that I can't just do the same thing all the time and skipping a step is very easy and without the backup alarm it could be a huge problem.

Originally Posted by NoelD

Another thing, my pump hasn't cracked or died. I have seen a LOT of others lately having that problem and some have had that problem many times before.

Can we say 508? Animas just had their version of the MM 508 problem with the 1200/1250 series. I've already heard from users of the 2020 that they reinforced the section that cracked on the 1200/1250.

[Dewey]

Gentlemen, we can go round and round as to why we think the MM, Animas, Cozmo or (insert pump name here) is better/best, but each & every pump has its pros & cons. None of the pumps are an exception to the rule & None are without flaws.

MM seems to suffer fewer (if any) cracks & offers the CGMS/pump combo. Animas has the best battery life (& now, color screens - another pro ). Cozmo offers the most customization of any pump on the market. Each one is a pro....

Now, for some cons of each - and remember folks, what may be a con to one, is a non-issue to someone else.

Cozmo & Animas both suffer more cracks or stress fractures. MM doesn't allow for users to insert partially charged or used batteries in the event they don't have a fresh/unused one on hand.

We can go on all day about our personal likes & dislikes, but in the end, it's all about personal choice. What may work for one, may or may not work for others.

[JediSkipdogg]

Originally Posted by Dewey

MM seems to suffer fewer (if any) cracks & offers the CGMS/pump combo. Animas has the best battery life (& now, color screens - another pro ). Cozmo offers the most customization of any pump on the market. Each one is a pro....

Although MM DID have a huge problem at one point with cracks. Idon't know about past Cozmos, but I can say the IR 1000 with Animas was nearly impossible to take a crack. Heck, I don't even think the case was plastic, I think it was a plastic like rubber material as it just didn't have the feel of plastic.

Originally Posted by Dewey

We can go on all day about our personal likes & dislikes, but in the end, it's all about personal choice. What may work for one, may or may not work for others.

I didn't want to go there, but was requested by two members.

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg

I'm curious for those that are ordering theirs now if you get the 3 day or the 7 day sensor compatible pump.

The sensor life doesn't really matter- you can keep resetting them for as long as you can tolerate it.

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by Eyessack

Why are you not going to continue to use the Cozmo?

I AM going to continue to use my Cozmo. Duck explained the 2 options:

Guardian, w/ 4 sensors, $1399

vs.

Paradigm w/ 10 sensors $999.

Obviously, since insurance will pay for the paradigm, that's the better option for me. Plus, it will be nice to have a spare pump. I don't plan on using the real-time all the time, I just want it once in awhile. However, when I do want it, I like the idea of only needing one device, so I'll use the 522 then, and the Cozmo the rest of the time. My CDE even said apart from the real-time the Cozmo blows the Paradigm on features, but that Minimed easily makes the best CGMS. I'm getting the best of both worlds.

As for the Dexcom, several members here had horrible luck with it, and it's ugly and bulky, so I decided against it. It's 7 days sensors are going up in price as well. And, you have to use the Ultra to calibrate.

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by duck

"Lack" of what features?

Duck, I can't remember if you have the 1800 or not, but the 1800 has way more features than the x22 series:

Hypo manager
Missed meal bolus
carb database
meal maker
custom name basal patterns/alarms
basal testing guidelines
touch bolus
4 vs. 3 basal patterns
easier to view IOB
std. dev. on averages
duration of insulin action can be set in half hour increments
memorize custom temp rates and boluses
more slots for carb rations, etc (though who needs more than 8?)
I could probably continue on.

[JediSkipdogg]

Originally Posted by Funnygrl

The sensor life doesn't really matter- you can keep resetting them for as long as you can tolerate it.

To me that would be a reason to wait. It's a minor convenience option, but anything to lessen the hassle would be great especially since you know you aren't waiting on the FDA, just waiting on them to make and start shipping.

Originally Posted by Funnygrl

As for the Dexcom, several members here had horrible luck with it, and it's ugly and bulky, so I decided against it. It's 7 days sensors are going up in price as well. And, you have to use the Ultra to calibrate.

New studies have shown the 7 day Dex to be just as accurate as the MM now. The sensors are going up, but I'm sure MM will raise the rates on their 7 day one but if you can do it for 14 days, it would be worth it instead of trying to use a 3 day sensor 5 times over. Again, my opinion.

[duck]

Originally Posted by Funnygrl

Duck, I can't remember if you have the 1800 or not, but the 1800 has way more features than the x22 series:

I do not have the 1800. And since I didn't react fast enough, it will not cost me $299 for the pleasure. Ask me if I am willing to spend the $299 for that?

[jky400e]

I to am doing the billing code thing. what a pain in the..
Most of what i have seen is a case by case coverage. I have united health care insurance.
The last letter i recieved ,was they did not have the correct tax code for mm..... I said same mm that bills for the pump.
I have the mm 722. I upgrade from the 712. I have been pumping for 24 years. CGMS is excellent. I was a little concerened about the expense for the sensors. 35.00 each and FDA approved for three days.
You put in the sensor like a soft set. start it and two hr later you do your first cailbration.
At that point it starts reading. After three days the sensor will say sensor end. You can see all of the messages on the pump.
So after sensor end you restart as a new sensor and 10 min later you do a cailbration. Three more days.
After the six days I remove the transmiter recharge it and restart as a new sensor again this time 2hr cailbration.

So generally i use a sensor for 12 days i have heard of them going longer but that is good enough for me.

So out of pocket now is not bad. And i will continue to work on the ins co .

Joe
T1 1977
pumping from 1983 Many many pumps
cgms 2007

[duck]

Originally Posted by jky400e

I to am doing the billing code thing. what a pain in the..
Most of what i have seen is a case by case coverage. I have united health care insurance.
The last letter i recieved ,was they did not have the correct tax code for mm..... I said same mm that bills for the pump.
I have the mm 722. I upgrade from the 712. I have been pumping for 24 years. CGMS is excellent. I was a little concerened about the expense for the sensors. 35.00 each and FDA approved for three days.
You put in the sensor like a soft set. start it and two hr later you do your first cailbration.
At that point it starts reading. After three days the sensor will say sensor end. You can see all of the messages on the pump.
So after sensor end you restart as a new sensor and 10 min later you do a cailbration. Three more days.
After the six days I remove the transmiter recharge it and restart as a new sensor again this time 2hr cailbration.

So generally i use a sensor for 12 days i have heard of them going longer but that is good enough for me.

So out of pocket now is not bad. And i will continue to work on the ins co .

Joe
T1 1977
pumping from 1983 Many many pumps
cgms 2007

24 years?!?

That's kinda funny what your insurance co. said about not having a Tax ID for MM...the tricks they'll try and use. BTW, "claims" people at insurance companies are taught to reject first, pay after lots of *****in'.

Do you notice any scarring from leaving a sensor in that long?

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by duck

I do not have the 1800. And since I didn't react fast enough, it will not cost me $299 for the pleasure. Ask me if I am willing to spend the $299 for that?

I know the deadline is past, but there are people who got it free afterwards. Fast enough? Just must have slow reflexes...

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by duck

I do not have the 1800. And since I didn't react fast enough, it will not cost me $299 for the pleasure. Ask me if I am willing to spend the $299 for that?

I didn't realize they were charging if you got in after the free upgrade time frame was over. Nonetheless, Cozmo's software upgrades are often free, as opposed to the Pathway program.

It's not bad, considering the upgrades concerned. Since you are both going to get the x22 series, will you participate in upgrades on the Pathway program?

[Funnygrl]

Depends on the upgrade and cost.

Duck, I really would ask if you could still get the free upgrade.