[cheryl]

To PA, to get my grandmother's bedroom suite finally. We will have the money, I am very happy brent wants to leave in the evening late at night cause I will be sitting on my arse for 12 hours...and since I sleep at night, don't have to think about upping basal rates and all that............but when we come back oh yea, it will be in the daytime....Now I know I am good till about lunch time sitting on my tush....but my god if I do it too long after lunch I start to rise....I know this is only one day not to worry but what do any of you do, when you travel........OH and If there are any NYC's people around, I am so going into the city for pizza and bagels, what do you all assume the carb counts are in these, I have no flipping clue, and also Rolls, yummy rolls I am cheating big time while i am up there...I really don't care either...and a canoli(i know i am italian and I cannot spell it to save my life a canoli)....I want those too.....and I love rolls and boars head bologni for lunch seriously....omg....and I am so wanting a hot bagel with warm cream cheese on it and coffee, I look at bigger bagels in stores and it says like 60 ish....but I mean if you guys know, big city big bagels and big pizza, now pizza, don't really make me as nervous cause a regular pizza place the crust is kind of thin anyway, and the slice is big, I was only gonna eat one lOL....I am expecting kind of wacky sugars, but nothing over 230 so i need help just a tad LOL....

Cheryl

[palefacegirl03]

I have no clue on any of the counts,but it all sounds so GOOD!
Have fun and enjoy yourself.

[bryan42]

Have fun Cheryl, and eat for the rest of us!!!

[JadeMonkey]

I'd guess a big NYC style bagel to be about 60-80 grams of carbs, depending on the size and how dense they are. If you can find a scale (a deli should have one) ask them to weigh it and figure about 15 grams of carbs per ounce according to my diabetes educator.

Have fun on your trip!

-Jade

[morrisma]

Get the thin crust pizza to keep the carb size to a smaller mountain! Sounds like a fun trip though. Keep testing.
Mike

[Keezheekoni]

Have a great time on the trip! Have you checked CalorieKing - Diet and weight loss. Calorie Counter and more. to see if they have listed the places you're going, or something similar? That's usually the first site I check when I'm going to be getting something I'm unfamiliar with...

As for the car ride, as Brent to stop at every other rest stop so that you can get out of the car and walk around, stretch some. It'll keep you sane!

[cheryl]

Well it looks like I am looking at 60-70 carbs for a Bagel and a slice of pizza....hmmm LOL>......not too shabby....pizza I was figuring 50 or so...anyway, Bagel I was assuming that anyway....

I never know what to do....I told Brent, after we eat lunch while we are driving we are going to site see and move around for about an hour or two, then hop back in the car....I never know what to do with temp basal rates LOL.....ah well it's not a big deal i just want my pizza.....and my bagel seriously....LOL....

Cheryl

[Alice]

Have fun! (you might want to split that pizza/bagal bolus a little...teehee!)...that's some long-acting powerful stuff!

Big Ed's in Oak Ridge has some pretty famous pizza...

[cheryl]

Oh I meant 60 for the Bagel and 60 for the pizza LOL....and yea, the bagel is for breakfast and then recovery LOL...followed by a light lunch LOL.....and then pizza for dinner followed by recovery till about 1 in the morning LOL...but all well worth it....I will only eat pizza once but I am going to abuse my body every morning with a bagel dipping it in my coffee.....LOL....now how to bring my sugar free creamer to PA....LOL...cause I am so barely carbing the coffee with my bagel

Cheryl

[owlyn]

Those large bagels run around 90 grams of CHO. I have one every day. If you can, weigh them. They are about 50% carbs, so a 6 ounce bagel = 180 grams in weight= 90 grams carbs. Most of those big-city bagels are 6 ounces, but I have seen them vary on occasion from 5 to 7, but it's pretty infrequent. 90g CHO is a safe number.

Pizza works like this- for each inch in radius (center to the outside), multiply that by the width at the widest part- so say you have an 8" radius by 6 inch across- that gives you the number 48. Now multiply that by the number of days since the last leap year and divide by the probability of precipitation on the day after tomorrow. Take the square root of that number and divide by 18. That's how many units of insulin to think about taking. But, wait, you're not done yet- next, flip a coin. Heads the pizza wins, tails you lose. And, oh, if you are religeous, a prayer couldn't hurt. The formula for Chinese and Mexican food is strangely similar.

But seriously, here is my mostly unsuccessful method: I just look at it, imagine all the cheese and sauce gone, and try to guess how much dough there is. I figure this to be about 75% carb. Then I add about 15 g CHO for the sauce. But- the cheese really screws up whatever you came up with anyway because it slows down the carb absorption- but not all of it, and not in a consitent manner. The best thing to do is to do a manual double-wave bolus: Take about 1/3 now, and 2/3 in about 2 hours. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I've almost never gotten it right, even eating pizza from the same pizzeria, but that double-wave thing has had the best results. YMMV. A nice long walk helps to smooth it out, though.
May the force be with you.

[WAMB00]

If you're going to NYC first and then to PA... bring me a doggie bag? p p p pweeese?

wayne in northeast pa

[Alice]

Owlyn, your pizza calculation sounds a bit like mine. I squint over my glass of red wine and guestimate my slice in approximation to a single-serve frozen pizza...which is normally about 45 carbs.

Or if it's those little squares cut into a pizza (hate those, I feel like I'm eating appetizers)...then I count 1.5 squares for a unit of Humalog.

I always end up wrong...but it's always interesting. Unlike most people, I tend to go low eating pizza...from my "over guestimating" and it's slow digesting...I'm doing much better guessing wrong with my split boluses...

[cheryl]

Originally Posted by WAMB00

If you're going to NYC first and then to PA... bring me a doggie bag? p p p pweeese?

wayne in northeast pa

I am gonna be in northeaster PA, in Hawley, by Lake Walenpaupack....that area.......

[cheryl]

Originally Posted by owlyn

Those large bagels run around 90 grams of CHO. I have one every day. If you can, weigh them. They are about 50% carbs, so a 6 ounce bagel = 180 grams in weight= 90 grams carbs. Most of those big-city bagels are 6 ounces, but I have seen them vary on occasion from 5 to 7, but it's pretty infrequent. 90g CHO is a safe number.

Pizza works like this- for each inch in radius (center to the outside), multiply that by the width at the widest part- so say you have an 8" radius by 6 inch across- that gives you the number 48. Now multiply that by the number of days since the last leap year and divide by the probability of precipitation on the day after tomorrow. Take the square root of that number and divide by 18. That's how many units of insulin to think about taking. But, wait, you're not done yet- next, flip a coin. Heads the pizza wins, tails you lose. And, oh, if you are religeous, a prayer couldn't hurt. The formula for Chinese and Mexican food is strangely similar.

But seriously, here is my mostly unsuccessful method: I just look at it, imagine all the cheese and sauce gone, and try to guess how much dough there is. I figure this to be about 75% carb. Then I add about 15 g CHO for the sauce. But- the cheese really screws up whatever you came up with anyway because it slows down the carb absorption- but not all of it, and not in a consitent manner. The best thing to do is to do a manual double-wave bolus: Take about 1/3 now, and 2/3 in about 2 hours. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I've almost never gotten it right, even eating pizza from the same pizzeria, but that double-wave thing has had the best results. YMMV. A nice long walk helps to smooth it out, though.
May the force be with you.

90 flipping carbs OMG.............I dunno then I have not straight bolused like that in a long time....I dualwave high carbs but havent given myself over 4 units at a clip...since I have been pumping....but the pizza, I figure I am just gonna wing it...I am sooooo dualwaving it....but the bagel...I might just eat half of it then...that's 45 carbs....much safer, then everymorning I'll add more like 1 and half...LOL....I boluse for 60 something carbs tops...at a clip....that is enough for me....LOL.....I am very insulin sensitive....I wonder.......kind of freaking crazy 90 carbs for a bagel....wow oh wow...i might be brave and keep a bottle of syrup next to me...LOL....just as a safety precaution....ok done pannicking now teehee...

Cheryl

[WAMB00]

Originally Posted by cheryl

I am gonna be in northeaster PA, in Hawley, by Lake Walenpaupack....that area.......

Rats... I'm another hour West.