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View Poll Results: Which method would you prefer if you had to choose one?
Untethered regimen (Either Lantus/Humalog or Lantus/Novolog) 9 33.33%
Novolog Only 12 44.44%
Humalog Only 3 11.11%
Not sure.... 3 11.11%
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:29 PM
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Which method would you prefer (if you had to choose one)?

Ok...I may be at a decision point, and would like some input from others on what they think or feel....I've read some posts and threads on both the untethered regimen and Novolog, but was looking for a little more...Have you (ever) switched from Humalog to the "untethered regimen" or to Novolog? If you have, or have tried both, is there a method you prefer more? All input is appreciated. My current regimen no longer seems to be working the way I'd like, and I'm now exploring other opportunities...Thanks for any info.
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:21 AM
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Hi Dewey, 50/50 so far.

Speaking for Thomas (I haven't asked him), I don't think he would go for the untethered regimen. But only being 11 (almost 12) he would have to carry his pump with him everywhere anyway and it would be another shot for him that he wouldn't care for.
We did switch him from Humalog to Novolog (back in November) with very good results. His sites last longer and his bgs seem to be better.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:28 AM
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Nancy, when you say that his sites last longer, what do you mean by that.. right now I am on humalog, and after reading alot of sites, including this one,I am at least interested in trying novolog on my pump... and the old"they are the same thing" I get from my doctors just does not cut it especially when others around the world on all the chat boards out there say theres a big difference.....
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:16 AM
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Nancy, when you say that his sites last longer, what do you mean by that.. right now I am on humalog, and after reading alot of sites, including this one,I am at least interested in trying novolog on my pump... and the old"they are the same thing" I get from my doctors just does not cut it especially when others around the world on all the chat boards out there say theres a big difference.....
Last time I checked on Novolog, it lasts longer than Humalog. Is that the sort of insulin action you want for your pumping therapy?? If any insulin mfg comes out with something faster than Humalog, I'll be the first to try it. I found a huge improvement in my ability to control my bg's when I switched from Velosulin to Humalog.

I'm curious what you perceive to be the benefit of using Novolog.

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Old 05-31-2005, 11:27 AM
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Actually one I have been watching is Apedria, from aventis.. it's supposed to be faster then humilog. but it's not on the market yet. they have given samples to endo to try out, but thats the extent. they did get fda approval in april 2004, but will not market it untill they can come up with a pen format also.. which according to the rep I spoke with, will be early next year, but it was approved for the pump already, and is supposed to pack a bigger punch then either humilog or novolog, at least according to the marketing rep...
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Old 05-31-2005, 12:45 PM
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I prefer Novolog. My endo recently had me try Humalog, and it did not work for me at all! I had to raise my basals from 0.65/hr to 1.3/hr and I still couldn't get my bg's under 300.
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Old 05-31-2005, 01:18 PM
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Nancy, when you say that his sites last longer, what do you mean by that.. right now I am on humalog, and after reading alot of sites, including this one,I am at least interested in trying novolog on my pump... and the old"they are the same thing" I get from my doctors just does not cut it especially when others around the world on all the chat boards out there say theres a big difference.....
Since he has switched from Humalog to Novolog he doesn't have the increase in bg on day 2-3. When he does have a high bg, because of miscalculated carbs or bent cath., the correction bolus kicks in within 15 min.
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Old 05-31-2005, 03:51 PM
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Actually one I have been watching is Apedria, from aventis.. .
I googled Apedria and came up empty. Are you sure you spelled it correctly? I looked at Aventis and didn't find anything there either about new insulin. I checked their press releases too.
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Old 05-31-2005, 03:53 PM
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Ricardo, I'm fairly sure it's spelled Apidra.
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Nancy, when you say that his sites last longer, what do you mean by that.. right now I am on humalog, and after reading alot of sites, including this one,I am at least interested in trying novolog on my pump... and the old"they are the same thing" I get from my doctors just does not cut it especially when others around the world on all the chat boards out there say theres a big difference.....
I looked up Novolog today and found info that contradicts what I had thought about the peak and duration. I hate it when I "mis-remember" things!
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Ricardo, I'm fairly sure it's spelled Apidra.
Thanks, Amanda! I'm reading about now...

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Old 05-31-2005, 04:55 PM
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No problem Ricardo! Has anyone actually tried Apidra? My endo was thinking about having me try it but he decided against it (only because it's new). Does anyone have any good/bad experiences w/it?
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No problem Ricardo! Has anyone actually tried Apidra? My endo was thinking about having me try it but he decided against it (only because it's new). Does anyone have any good/bad experiences w/it?
I got thoughts of "guinea pig" when I read the passage, "My endo was thinking of having me try it..." Ask him about it after it's been out a while! Just like electronics suffering from "infant mortality", patients suffer from adverse reactions more often while taking brand new drugs. I'd give it a while. Humalog is a "known entitiy". At least that's how I feel about using newly marketed meds.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:18 PM
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Lol Ricardo, I did have an endo like that! He was horrible! Actually the endo I have now made the decision not to try it until it's been out on the market for a whilte.I was hesitant because I hadn't heard of it at the time. He asked me if I would like to try it and I said I wasn't sure. He just said he would rather wait to see how people react to it.
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try this link..

http://www.apidra.com/index.do

sorry about the spelling before ...
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