[jeggeman31]

Has anyone seen it yet ? I was on the ADA board today and they are talking about the reps showing it and saying it will be out in another 12months or so. From what I have been told they will have one with an option of holding 200 300 or 400 units of insulin. I was just wondering if anyone has seen it and maybe might have a photo of one? I have not seen anything yet about it on the Animas website.

I think with J & J buying out will do wonders for Animas and their pumps

[JediSkipdogg]

Do a search on Google for Animas and Debiotech. Debiotech is the company that is producing a microneedle that is undetectible by basic touch but still is very functional. It has been in the conceptual stage since about mid-2005 with no known release date. There are a few different methods for the implementation, one including an idea like the OmniPod but with an Ipod type look to it. Basically as thin as an Ipod, somewhat larger in surface area than a regular infusion set, but the entire unit is in one. ENjoy researching.

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by jeggeman31

Has anyone seen it yet ? I was on the ADA board today and they are talking about the reps showing it and saying it will be out in another 12months or so. From what I have been told they will have one with an option of holding 200 300 or 400 units of insulin. I was just wondering if anyone has seen it and maybe might have a photo of one? I have not seen anything yet about it on the Animas website.

I think with J & J buying out will do wonders for Animas and their pumps

Ok, this is what I'd found so far, and Debiotech doesn't allow anyone to "copy" their pics, so here's the site:

Animas/Debiotech Micro-Pump

So far, that was all I was able to see. The pic farther down has been out for a while, but the one toward the top (I believe) is the newer prototype pic for the Micro Pump. This would be awesome, but personally, I've never cared about how big or little my pump is....It's just cool to see, that like computers, cell phones, etc., pumps are now packing even more technology into smaller spaces.

[camjen1]

Good luck trying to keep track of that pump!

[soremom]

When I was at the ADA Expo last August, the Animas reps had a proto-type of it. I was amazed at how small it was. It looked different than the one shown on that web site but very similar. They had a time line of estimates on releases and I believe it was mid 2007. I can't remember the exact time of the year, just remember thinking yeah and atleast 6 months on to that. Seems to always take longer.

Size doesn't bother me but this would be nice. It was amazing how small it was and how much insulin it would hold. They didn't have any in but could open to show you were it was held. This size though may get more people to go on the pump since it will be basically undetectable.

Kim

[spike]

Originally Posted by Dewey

Ok, this is what I'd found so far, and Debiotech doesn't allow anyone to "copy" their pics, so here's the site:

Animas/Debiotech Micro-Pump

So far, that was all I was able to see. The pic farther down has been out for a while, but the one toward the top (I believe) is the newer prototype pic for the Micro Pump. This would be awesome, but personally, I've never cared about how big or little my pump is....It's just cool to see, that like computers, cell phones, etc., pumps are now packing even more technology into smaller spaces.

The miniaturization is remarkable but just how do I read the pump and push it's buttons if it's taped to my body? am I missing something?

[someone]

Originally Posted by spike

The miniaturization is remarkable but just how do I read the pump and push it's buttons if it's taped to my body? am I missing something?

I believe I read that it is controlled by a remote. I am assuming that remote has some sort of display.

[Diana]

I went to the link, and the pic at the top looks great in terms of size, but when I went to the technical specifications, it had the size listed as 6cm by 6cm by 1.6cm? That doesnt seem all that small, as my IR1200 is roughly 7.5 by 5 by 2?

Anyway, it would be great if they did come up with a pump that is significantly smaller than the current models, as at the moment I still have a bit of trouble finding somewhere good to put it in certain clothing. Ah well, all advances are good advances, I say.

And I am sure that by the time I can next get a new pump from my insurance, there will be some wonderfully small, sexy and smart device out there.

[Doetsch]

Originally Posted by jeggeman31

Has anyone seen it yet ? I was on the ADA board today and they are talking about the reps showing it and saying it will be out in another 12months or so. From what I have been told they will have one with an option of holding 200 300 or 400 units of insulin. I was just wondering if anyone has seen it and maybe might have a photo of one? I have not seen anything yet about it on the Animas website.

I think with J & J buying out will do wonders for Animas and their pumps

I have seen it. I talked to the Animas rep in my area due to changing to Cozmore & the rep wanted me to stay with the 1200 due to the new Animas pump. The rep told me that it would be made available to the public early 2007 and is currently going through the FDA for approval. The version i saw is what the rep told me would be the final version. It was the size of a credit card and had the thickness of an ipod. It was very small, I brought the same question to the rep asking about the accesibility. He advised me that you would never have to take it out in public to make changes, boluses etc. He stated that the pump will come with a small pda device that will have preloaded diabetes management software that will track A1c, Ketones, BG results, trends etc that can be downloaded at your doctors office. He stated that the PDA itself will have a direct testing ability kinda like that freestyle pda but without the bulkiness. As for transmitting data -> The rep stated that the pda will transmit through radiowaves to the pump like cellphones. It will not need a direct Infrared connection to transmit. The pda will also have the software of the pump to change basal and so you can customize the pump directly from the pda. It sounds like Animas will be leading the new wave of pumping and it will destroy all the other competitors, I needed a pump with custom settings now so I went with the Cozmore but I have gotten approval from my insurance to switch prior to the 4 year mark so I will definetely go back to Animas in 07' when this new pump hits the streets.

[spike]

Originally Posted by Doetsch

I have seen it. I talked to the Animas rep in my area due to changing to Cozmore & the rep wanted me to stay with the 1200 due to the new Animas pump. The rep told me that it would be made available to the public early 2007 and is currently going through the FDA for approval. The version i saw is what the rep told me would be the final version. It was the size of a credit card and had the thickness of an ipod. It was very small, I brought the same question to the rep asking about the accesibility. He advised me that you would never have to take it out in public to make changes, boluses etc. He stated that the pump will come with a small pda device that will have preloaded diabetes management software that will track A1c, Ketones, BG results, trends etc that can be downloaded at your doctors office. He stated that the PDA itself will have a direct testing ability kinda like that freestyle pda but without the bulkiness. As for transmitting data -> The rep stated that the pda will transmit through radiowaves to the pump like cellphones. It will not need a direct Infrared connection to transmit. The pda will also have the software of the pump to change basal and so you can customize the pump directly from the pda. It sounds like Animas will be leading the new wave of pumping and it will destroy all the other competitors, I needed a pump with custom settings now so I went with the Cozmore but I have gotten approval from my insurance to switch prior to the 4 year mark so I will definetely go back to Animas in 07' when this new pump hits the streets.

From what you've said, the pump would actually INCREASE the amount of electronics you'd have to carry around, rather than decrease it. I need no such "PDA" with my 515. ONE bit of gear clipped to my waistband and that's it. I still don't see the advantage of a smallish pump device being stuck on the skin where I can't see the screen or press the controls because they are hidden by clothing and THEN I've got to carry another device in my pocket to interact with the pump. I just don't get it!

[Lynne1]

Originally Posted by spike

From what you've said, the pump would actually INCREASE the amount of electronics you'd have to carry around, rather than decrease it. I need no such "PDA" with my 515. ONE bit of gear clipped to my waistband and that's it. I still don't see the advantage of a smallish pump device being stuck on the skin where I can't see the screen or press the controls because they are hidden by clothing and THEN I've got to carry another device in my pocket to interact with the pump. I just don't get it!

I can think of a few reasons:

1. Don't need lengthy tubing in order to connect the pump to the site. So you would reduce the chance that pulling on the tubing would pull the cannula out.

2. Can put the PDA anywhere...don't have to attach it to your belt or keep it on your body for that matter. I guess that increases the risk of losing it, too

3. No one will know you are wearing a pump. Not a big deal to me, but might be to some folks.

Just my thoughts.

[spike]

Originally Posted by Lynne1

I can think of a few reasons:

1. Don't need lengthy tubing in order to connect the pump to the site. So you would reduce the chance that pulling on the tubing would pull the cannula out.

I've only pulled out 2 sets in 10 years.

2. Can put the PDA anywhere...don't have to attach it to your belt or keep it on your body for that matter. I guess that increases the risk of losing it, too

ANOTHER device to put in a pocket? NO THANKS! It's bad enough I carry 2 rolls of glucotabs, a meter, and a lancet device.

3. No one will know you are wearing a pump. Not a big deal to me, but might be to some folks.

My pump is in plain sight on my hip and almost NO ONE knows it's a pump. If they did, so what? They think it's a pager. women often wear pumps in their bra. I doubt the average onlooker will know they have a pump!

Just MY thoughts!


Just my thoughts.

see inline comments above

[Doetsch]

Originally Posted by spike

From what you've said, the pump would actually INCREASE the amount of electronics you'd have to carry around, rather than decrease it. I need no such "PDA" with my 515. ONE bit of gear clipped to my waistband and that's it. I still don't see the advantage of a smallish pump device being stuck on the skin where I can't see the screen or press the controls because they are hidden by clothing and THEN I've got to carry another device in my pocket to interact with the pump. I just don't get it!

The PDA is very small and it has the ability to use function like normal pdas. for instance you can put a os on it and it will have bluetooth / wi-fi capabilities in the future. I just like the idea that the tubing won't be long and I can sit at a desk without skooting my chair out to perform a bolus and enter my Glucose result. Also I am a busy man and I drive constantly. I would be able to bolus or view BG history without pulling to the side of the road. I know that you would have both a device attached and A device in your hand but it is definetely leading edge and by this you can really see the future progress of pumping.

[spike]

Originally Posted by Doetsch

The PDA is very small and it has the ability to use function like normal pdas. for instance you can put a os on it and it will have bluetooth / wi-fi capabilities in the future. I just like the idea that the tubing won't be long and I can sit at a desk without skooting my chair out to perform a bolus and enter my Glucose result. Also I am a busy man and I drive constantly. I would be able to bolus or view BG history without pulling to the side of the road. I know that you would have both a device attached and A device in your hand but it is definetely leading edge and by this you can really see the future progress of pumping.

ok, BUT when I go to the mall, walk the dog, bike ride, etc, etc, I don't need a PDA with me. It's bad enough I tote my cell phone along with meter and pump.

[Dewey]

What we all need to realize here is that some may like this added feature, while others may not. Each person is different, therefore will like different pumps, styles, etc. No one has to understand another's need/desire for certain technologies.

Each company has followers, as well as those who can't stand them. Same applies to the pumps each company makes. It's all about personal preference, and individuality.