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Old 02-13-2008, 08:12 AM
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pancakes

In the order I mix:
  • 2 Tbsp. (30 mL) sunflower oil
  • 1 Tbsp. (15 mL) full-flavored olive oil (I like some bitterness and a good, peppery taste)
  • dash toasted sesame oil (no more than a few mL, or a fraction of a tsp.)
  • 2 Tbsp. (30 mL) agave syrup
  • 2 Tbsp. (30 mL) coconut vinegar
  • 3 eggs
  • 1/2 c. (120 mL) unsweetened soy milk
  • 1/3 c. (75 mL) dark or medium rye flour
  • 1/3 c. (75 mL) barley flour
  • 2 Tbsp. (30 mL) brown rice flour
  • 2 Tbsp. (30 mL) buckwheat flour
  • 2 Tbsp. (30 mL) ground flax meal
  • salt
  • baking powder

IIRC, they're around 1300-1400 calories.
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Post-DX A1c = ?.?% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08
current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24
basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 6U detemir @ 0630, 8U detemir @ 1130, 18U detemir @ 2030 (tweaking again/still as of 2008/07/03!)
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:09 AM
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Don't forget the good stuff!

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Old 02-13-2008, 09:51 AM
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Don't forget the good stuff!
*licks screen*

Mmmmm....53g of tasty sugars per 1/4 cup... not that I know that off the top of my head or anything.

I used to use maple syrup in the pancakes. However, I've switched to agave in, and save the maple for the top. I have to be really careful measuring, though... I've had a few 200+ mg/dL excursions c/o "this looks like just another tablespoon".

It's hard to do less than 5U of maple. When on top of 6U of pancakes, I now restrict the good stuff to special occasions.
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DXed 2007/04 = presented with advanced-stage DKA, A1c of 12.9%, and BMI of 21.3 kg/m^2
Post-DX A1c = ?.?% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08
current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24
basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 6U detemir @ 0630, 8U detemir @ 1130, 18U detemir @ 2030 (tweaking again/still as of 2008/07/03!)
bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N

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Old 02-13-2008, 10:01 AM
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*licks screen*

Mmmmm....53g of tasty sugars per 1/4 cup... not that I know that off the top of my head or anything.

I used to use maple syrup in the pancakes. However, I've switched to agave in, and save the maple for the top. I have to be really careful measuring, though... I've had a few 200+ mg/dL excursions c/o "this looks like just another tablespoon".

It's hard to do less than 5U of maple. When on top of 6U of pancakes, I now restrict the good stuff to special occasions.
I use agave too and of course, limit things like Maple syrup to special occasions. Actually, I think I'm way overdue, I haven't had anything like pancakes since Dx 5 months ago. I like your recipe but I'll need to shop for some of that stuff. What the heck is coconut vinegar and why do I need that stuff? Does it slow down the glucose spike?
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:11 AM
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I use agave too and of course, limit things like Maple syrup to special occasions. Actually, I think I'm way overdue, I haven't had anything like pancakes since Dx 5 months ago.
I had pancakes a few hours ago. Being out of buckwheat, I substituted rice flour. (I also used straight olive oil, but that's a bit strong for some people.) No maple today, though.

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What the heck is coconut vinegar
I think it's made from coconut sap. When I saw it in an asian market, I just had to try it.

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and why do I need that stuff? Does it slow down the glucose spike?
There's no health reason for it.

1. Coconut vinegar is my favorite for pancakes, followed by white wine vinegar;

2. It helps the flavor;

3. It _really_ helps make the pancakes light and fluffy, despite the whole grains (and heavy/dense rice and buckwheat flours).

Granted, everyone is different, but my glycemic response to the pancakes: about 3U digested by 1hr, the remaining 3U digested by 2hr. (I eat one, bolus, then eat the rest as I make them.)

Have fun. Hope you like 'em.
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DXed 2007/04 = presented with advanced-stage DKA, A1c of 12.9%, and BMI of 21.3 kg/m^2
Post-DX A1c = ?.?% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08
current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24
basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 6U detemir @ 0630, 8U detemir @ 1130, 18U detemir @ 2030 (tweaking again/still as of 2008/07/03!)
bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N

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Old 02-13-2008, 10:29 AM
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...There's no health reason for it.
...
3. It _really_ helps make the pancakes light and fluffy, despite the whole grains (and heavy/dense rice and buckwheat flours).
Aha, fluffiness! OK, that's a great tip. I've started experimenting with whole grain breads but they lack fluffiness, I'll try that.

And while you may not have intended it, I did remember correctly, vinegar DOES have the effect of lowering the glycemic index. (read article)
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:41 AM
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Aha, fluffiness! OK, that's a great tip. I've started experimenting with whole grain breads but they lack fluffiness, I'll try that.
I recently made the mistake of running out of vinegar. I tried a batch of pancakes sans vinegar. Bleah! However did I tolerate that?!

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And while you may not have intended it, I did remember correctly, vinegar DOES have the effect of lowering the glycemic index.
Very interesting... especially considering that, pre-DX, I would load up a salad with tangy vinaigrette... to the point where sane people would be disgusted by the taste. (I no longer crave vinegar like I did a while back.)

The other day, I made a dozen (24U total) banana muffins. Three overripe bananas, 12U { {rice syrup} and {turbinado sugar} }, 1 c. whole wheat flour, 1/3 c. barley flour. I used a couple tablespoons of vinegar then, too. (N.B.: I'm by no means listing all ingredients... just vinegar and significant carbohydrate.)

I found the correct bolus to be 25% Humalog and 75% Humulin-R... which surprised me, considering how much sweetening (~17U total) I used. I wonder if the vinegar helped.

Definitely interesting. Thanks for the heads-up!
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DXed 2007/04 = presented with advanced-stage DKA, A1c of 12.9%, and BMI of 21.3 kg/m^2
Post-DX A1c = ?.?% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08
current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24
basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 6U detemir @ 0630, 8U detemir @ 1130, 18U detemir @ 2030 (tweaking again/still as of 2008/07/03!)
bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N

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Old 02-13-2008, 07:55 PM
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:22 PM
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Don't forget the good stuff!
Ho Keith, Don't do that. That's is soooo nice I could lick the screen buy it's not the same. Drool!!!


Oh how lovely MMMmmmm.....
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:32 AM
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Well, the photo of maple syrup got the best of me. I'm currently eating a batch of pancakes with 3U (50 mL) of maple syrup on top.

Hopefully my BG holds. Must go to new client soon. (At least my preprandial was 93 mg/dL!)
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DXed 2007/04 = presented with advanced-stage DKA, A1c of 12.9%, and BMI of 21.3 kg/m^2
Post-DX A1c = ?.?% @ 2008/07; 5.2% @ 2008/04; 5.3% @ 2007/12; 5.3% @ 2007/08
current BMI = 26.0 (86kg on 182cm); want to get back to 23-24
basal = 2U human N @ 0630, 6U detemir @ 0630, 8U detemir @ 1130, 18U detemir @ 2030 (tweaking again/still as of 2008/07/03!)
bolus = 1:15 I:C ratio; varying mix of aspart, human R, human N

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