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03-13-2008, 07:02 AM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Illinois
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| | | Hi fiber bran muffin. Hi everyone;
I know these are high carb no doubt, but Linda wanted me to give this recipe. I have found success in eating one with my eggs and cereal in the morning as well as with my evening meal and getting very good readings. Maybe its something else, but my original eating pattern was to include the high fiber items with my meals which I had sort of gotten away from.. My numbers were getting higher so I started looking at the fiber as an aid to keeping the peaks lower and more spread out. For my self this appears to work. I would be interested to see if some others get the same results or does it just cause a spike for them? This recipe was modified by my mom to make it more low carb by a bit.
Bran Muffins
Given is amounts for the full recipe which the instructions say you can store in the refrigerator for up to six weeks before baking. Mom cut it in half and gives the amounts of flours she used doing so. The rest of the ingredients you have to half if your making the smaller amount.
5 cups flour (1/2 recipe; l cup each of whole wheat graham
flour and stone ground whole wheat plus 1/2 cup white
flour.
3 cups splenda
5 tsp. baking soda
15.0z box of raisin bran
1 cup vegetable oil (sunflower if possible, used crisco)
1 qt. buttermilk, used dry powdered low fat variety.
4 egg beaters (or four eggs if your not concerned with fat)
Mix dry ingredients in large bowl. Add wet ingredients and mix just enough to moisten the mixture Bake in greased muffin tins for 20 minutes at 350. | 
03-13-2008, 07:56 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 5,754
| | | Thanks for posting your recipe Larry...The original recipe would make a TON of muffins i'll bet. It sounds really tasty. I'd be willing to make it and give it a try to see if its blood-sugar friendly for me...even if its not, my husband would enjoy them!
Thanks for sharing something that's worked well for you!
__________________ T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Byetta 5 mcg
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Low carb dieter, taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (right after dealing with shingles and bronchitis) | 
03-13-2008, 07:59 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 1,215
| | Thanks for sharing
Is it true that you can substitute unsweetened apple-sauce in place in much of the liquid used in this kind of recipe..?
__________________ ~ Frank Metabolic Syndrome Dx'd March 2003. Started MM 712 Pump April 2004. MM 722 + Contour Link April 2008. "...type 2 diabetes is associated with obesity... [so] most people assume that the excess weight causes the diabetes. But... it's possible that diabetes causes obesity" "One of the causes of your diabetes is a poor choice of ancestors." - Gretchen Becker - The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed | 
03-13-2008, 08:05 AM
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| | | I know you can use applesauce in place of oils in recipes (i've not done this personally)...but do remember that applesauce would add carbs...I looked up "carbs in applesauce" online, and 1 cup applesauce (no sugar added) is 28 carbs...so you'd want to calculate this when determining carbs.
__________________ T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Byetta 5 mcg
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Low carb dieter, taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (right after dealing with shingles and bronchitis) | 
03-13-2008, 08:15 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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| | Carbs of course! But remember that some of us are fighting on multiple fronts (if you pardon the pun)... in additional to sugar I have to watch the fat, cholesterol, salt... ain't life grand 
__________________ ~ Frank Metabolic Syndrome Dx'd March 2003. Started MM 712 Pump April 2004. MM 722 + Contour Link April 2008. "...type 2 diabetes is associated with obesity... [so] most people assume that the excess weight causes the diabetes. But... it's possible that diabetes causes obesity" "One of the causes of your diabetes is a poor choice of ancestors." - Gretchen Becker - The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed | 
03-13-2008, 08:38 AM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 350
| | | Actually I forgot that on the second batch she did use applesauce as a substitute for the oils which lowers the fats a lot and made a more moist muffin. She isn't home at the moment but I will find out how much she used and add it to the recipe.
As far as watching fats goes we have been doing that for years and I don't think there is anything in here that would be a problem on that front with the applesause and egg beaters being used. The dry buttermilk is also the fat free or maybe low fat version. | 
03-13-2008, 10:06 AM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Illinois
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| | | She used the same amount of applesauce as is called for in oils. | 
03-13-2008, 10:46 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern California
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| | | I love the reciepe, but I am a bit concerned about the Raisin Bran. Raisin Bran is my favorite cereal, but I can't eat it. It really drives my blood sugar high. Do you have blood sugar issues when you eat these muffins?
__________________ Nancy Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular. diagnosed type 1 October 1986
currently using Medtronic MiniMed
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03-13-2008, 12:21 PM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 350
| | | I realize that it is a potential problem for many. I put it up only because in my personal case I was seeing quite high readings for me, ( while maybe low for others with more advanced situations), when I incorporated the added bran into my diet my numbers took a rather noticeable drop after those meals and in general. Personally I don't buy raisin bran either for that reason but I select ones with rating more in the 20 and below carb when I can find it. My thought was that as mentioned above perhaps in combination with other foods such as an evening meal and my breakfast or lunch if I don't have a low carb bread for a sandwich, it might help to slow the release of the sugars avoiding such spikes as I was seeing. So far that has been true for me, but I do wonder if it would hold for any others. Only thing I suggest to anyone is perhaps cut the recipe by a fourth and make a small batch, try one with a meal or breakfast and report the results.. My guess is your probably right, but I don't know. | 
03-13-2008, 12:48 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern California
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| | | Thanks Larry, I am going to try it. I need some new reciepes.
__________________ Nancy Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular. diagnosed type 1 October 1986
currently using Medtronic MiniMed
paradigm 715 CLEAR | 
03-13-2008, 01:02 PM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 350
| | | I just realized that I don't know what kind of effects this might have on a type I diabetic.. I am mostly pre diabetic at this point so it could be greatly different.. Please use caution.. | 
03-13-2008, 01:34 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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| | I wouldn't worry Larry... most Type 1s I know would have taken a single glance at your recipe and automagically converted it in to carbs. and units of insulin before you or I had even finished reading it 
__________________ ~ Frank Metabolic Syndrome Dx'd March 2003. Started MM 712 Pump April 2004. MM 722 + Contour Link April 2008. "...type 2 diabetes is associated with obesity... [so] most people assume that the excess weight causes the diabetes. But... it's possible that diabetes causes obesity" "One of the causes of your diabetes is a poor choice of ancestors." - Gretchen Becker - The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed | 
03-14-2008, 05:34 PM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Illinois
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| | | This may just be me, but tonight I had the usual muffin, we had chicken, carrots, turnips, sauce, onions, low sugar applesauce: and for desert Schwann Low Carb Ice Cream, two scoops with a bit of sugar free cool whip.. Two hours came in at 128. I was getting numbers 50 points and more higher than that a month ago. The only difference I can determine is the Muffin and I went back on the Salacia Oblonga. Evidently the muffin does not do anything outrageous to my numbers as they have been significantly lower the entire time I have been eating them.. It may indeed be none of the above?
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