chinese take out - Page 2

seacomp · #16 (**permalink**) 08-02-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_Plain_John

One thing you might try is getting the same dish several times in a row, but adjusting your insulin each time for that particuar dish - knowing that a dinner size Triple Delight Special from your local shop will make you react the same each time. Thus you can see if a higher bolus will tame the high, or if it spikes later than your insulin's peak, etc.

This is a good general strategic for all diabetics, whether he or she takes insulin or not. That is, master a limited number of dishes at the places you normally eat. You will not have as much variety as other people might, but after a while you will have a set of foods that you like and which you can control (in terms of the effect on your BG).

CiContention · #17 (**permalink**) 08-02-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by seacomp

This is a good general strategic for all diabetics, whether he or she takes insulin or not. That is, master a limited number of dishes at the places you normally eat. You will not have as much variety as other people might, but after a while you will have a set of foods that you like and which you can control (in terms of the effect on your BG).

I really wish you would stop going around posting false generalizations about 'all diabetics', because the plain fact is you can't generalize anything when it comes to the disease except maybe, "Something's up."

duck · #18 (**permalink**) 08-02-2006, 07:40 PM

Well. I actually had Chinese tonight. My sister brought my new nephew up from Florida, I had never met him before. She wanted "good" Chinese, so the wife asked me and I relented. Let's see if I figured this out, LOL.

I do have to say, it was good going down!

diaconfused · #19 (**permalink**) 08-02-2006, 10:16 PM

I ate a scandalous amount of Chinese at lunch today.

But I was a good boy and stuck to Spicy Eggplant in Garlic Sauce (no rice).

Sugars behaved too.

poodlebone · #20 (**permalink**) 08-02-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by duck

Well. I actually had Chinese tonight. My sister brought my new nephew up from Florida, I had never met him before. She wanted "good" Chinese, so the wife asked me and I relented. Let's see if I figured this out, LOL.

I do have to say, it was good going down!

How were your BGs after the meal?

duck · #21 (**permalink**) 08-03-2006, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by poodlebone

How were your BGs after the meal?

Inexplicable, as always after Chinese food. Two hours post...a "perfect" 120, I was really, REALLY suprised. I went to bed about 1.5 hours later...243. Eh? I programmed my correction bolus (3.1 u) and I woke up at 6AM at 49. Weirdness.

poodlebone · #22 (**permalink**) 08-03-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by duck

Inexplicable, as always after Chinese food. Two hours post...a "perfect" 120, I was really, REALLY suprised. I went to bed about 1.5 hours later...243. Eh? I programmed my correction bolus (3.1 u) and I woke up at 6AM at 49. Weirdness.

Those sound like typical post-Chinese food numbers to me! I'm always good at the two hour mark and it all goes dpwnhill after that.

seacomp · #23 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CiContention

I really wish you would stop going around posting false generalizations about 'all diabetics', because the plain fact is you can't generalize anything when it comes to the disease except maybe, "Something's up."

I'd be very interesting to hear what is "false" about the generalization. And were you not able to generalize about disease, there could not be a medical profession.

CiContention · #24 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by seacomp

I'd be very interesting to hear what is "false" about the generalization. And were you not able to generalize about disease, there could not be a medical profession.

That is, master a limited number of dishes at the places you normally eat.

Pretty obvious at this point you have no idea what you're talking about. I'll just ignore you.

duck · #25 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CiContention

That is, master a limited number of dishes at the places you normally eat.

Pretty obvious at this point you have no idea what you're talking about. I'll just ignore you.

He's expressing what works for him, and may work for others. As it is, I have "mastered" a few dishes from various restaraunts, and as long as I can remember the bolus amounts, I'm okay (easier said than done). However, in the case of Chinese food, I'm hosed. I don't like to admit defeat, but I feel like I am attacking an enemy that can change tactics on me at will, and it's clobbering me.

It is a very individual disease, though, as we can see in this thread as some people seem to be able to consume Chinese food no problem. But that won't include me, LOL.

RickLV · #26 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by grace girl

..........some pork fried rice.......

I'm sorry Grace, but I'm stunned that a diabetic would eat rice (or bread, or pasta, or potatoes...)

duck · #27 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RickLV

I'm sorry Grace, but I'm stunned that a diabetic would eat rice (or bread, or pasta, or potatoes...)

I do all the time, and that's what confounds me about Chinese food...Even if I measure the food, I can't typically calculate carbs. Sometimes, I have added a "fudge factor" and acted like even meats were at least 50% carb, and threw that into the bolus, to no avail. Otherwise, I can bolus accurately for rice, pasta and potatoes.

(pre-pump, potatoes killed me, actually.)

Lynne1 · #28 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duck

I do all the time, and that's what confounds me about Chinese food...Even if I measure the food, I can't typically calculate carbs. Sometimes, I have added a "fudge factor" and acted like even meats were at least 50% carb, and threw that into the bolus, to no avail. Otherwise, I can bolus accurately for rice, pasta and potatoes.

(pre-pump, potatoes killed me, actually.)

It may be that there are different cooks working in the same restaurant who use different amounts of "hidden carbs" like cornstarch, sugar, etc. Unless you know for sure the same recipe is used each and every time it would be impossible to figure out the # of carbs in the meal.

grace girl · #29 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 03:04 PM

Why shouldn't diabetics eat rice? I haven't been told yet that the point was to avoid carbs, just count them!

I have no problems with rice ordinarily. Or pasta, or potatoes. But I don't eat any of those things in large amounts....I never have even before diabetes. I think my DE would have a STROKE if I quit eating normally.

If I had the guess what the problem was that night, I would say fat, not rice in itself. I don't eat a lot of fatty type foods, but when I do, I usually have the numbers to prove it. I know there's alot of hidden fat in chinese, as well as the hidden carbs in the sauces.

I guess I'm part of a more relaxed school of thought. I refuse to believe that there is ANYTHING that I can't eat, but there are some foods that I choose not to eat, or to limit. I lived the same way before diabetes. Everyone does, if you think about it. Now my reasons have simply changed.

CiContention · #30 (**permalink**) 08-04-2006, 03:42 PM

There are companies also that make foods such as pasta, bread, rice that are high in fiber and low in 'net carbs' that generally taste the same as the normal stuff and work well.

I use Dreamfields for pasta, Sara Lee for Bread (9g carb per slice, high in fiber also), and there is a specific kind of rice I haven't used yet, but is much lower in carb/high in fiber.