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09-01-2006, 06:48 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NYC
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| | | I did pizza!
Work has been busy and Thursday I stayed late. We had ordered some pizza, from a pizza place across the street. This is New York City pizza, not wimpy little Dominos or other national fast food chain pizza.
I looked up nutrition info for pizza on Calorie King. For generic cheese pizza, original crust, they list a slice as weighing 3.6oz. What self respecting pizza weighs 3.6 oz per slice?! I weighed my 2 slices - 15 oz! So I used the numbers for 4 slices of what Calorie King had listed, which came out to:
carbs: 134
fat: 39
protein: 49
Let's not even think about the calories right now...!
I had never used the TAG system for calculating a bolus but I did a quick search to see what people were doing and followed an example I used. I don't remember the numbers now, but I ended up entering 174g as my carbs. I did a 50/50 bolus with the square portion spread out over 5 hours.
I ate the pizza at 7:40pm while still at work. My highest reading over the next 5+ hours was 98, lowest was 82. I woke up around 5am this morning and was 91. I was only 78 when I woke up for good at 8:30.
I can't believe I actually did real NYC pizza! My first time eating it on the pump.
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Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed Paradigm 722 6/2008 + CGMS
Minimed Paradigm 715 5/2005 - 6/2008
13mm Silhouettes
Lifescan UltraSmart & UltraMini
Last A1c: 6/11/08: 5.4
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09-01-2006, 09:05 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern California
Posts: 6,426
| | HOLY MOLY Liz..... 174 grams of carbs ???? Really???? I gained weight just thinking about that. LOL 
Glad you got to enjoy your pizza! |
09-01-2006, 10:59 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hogwarts, Hobbiton, the Galactic Milieu &Ks when I have to be here
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| | Wonderful.
I hope that continues to work for you. 
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09-01-2006, 12:38 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 7,833
| | That's awesome! Combo boluses are great.  |
09-01-2006, 04:06 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California
Posts: 1,101
| | Great job, Liz! Such a good feeling when we finally get that extended bolus thing right. I'm still learning, but I'm getting better.
Congratulations.  A slice of pizza with a sparkler on it to you!!! Mich |
09-01-2006, 07:43 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by notme HOLY MOLY Liz..... 174 grams of carbs ???? Really???? I gained weight just thinking about that. LOL
Glad you got to enjoy your pizza! | Yes, and then about 15 minutes after the pizza I had a Cocoa Via chocolate crisp snack bar, an additional 15g of carb. Total count for dinner was 189g, definitely way more than usual! I have gone over 100 a few times when eating pasta.
Eating pizza is not something I plan to do often, at least not real pizza. Those 2 slices were probably around 1,000 calories!! I can eat a LOT of more nutritious food for those calories. But, it is nice to know that I can do it if I want/need to.
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Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed Paradigm 722 6/2008 + CGMS
Minimed Paradigm 715 5/2005 - 6/2008
13mm Silhouettes
Lifescan UltraSmart & UltraMini
Last A1c: 6/11/08: 5.4
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09-01-2006, 07:43 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 451
| | | 174 grams of carbs???? WOW!!
Anyhoo, congrats! I think all ya'll that do the boluses for certain foods and such must be math wizards. I don't know if I could do it!!
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Diagnosed July 1997 as Type 1
Correctly diagnosed April 2006 as Type 2
Taking: 1 mg Amaryl 1x a day, Byetta 5 mcg 2x a day
Tried: Novolog, Novolog 70/30, Lantus, Humalog, Humilin L and many many others
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09-07-2006, 11:14 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: pa, usa
Posts: 454
| | aahh you had to throw that line in about real NYC pizza huh?? that has got to me one of the things I miss most about living in NY, well that and real chinese food, and people that know how to drive  ......
why to go on the bolus....
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09-07-2006, 03:10 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portsmouth UK
Posts: 1,573
| | i dont really get the bolusing thing at all... but them i've only been diabetic for 7 weeks and im on mixtard  ill get there... wait up!! hehe
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Type 1 Since - 24/7/2006 HbA1c
13/10/2006 - 7.2%  | 15/12/2006 - 6.0% | 29/06/2007 - 7.1% | 02/11/2007 - 7.8% | 29/02/2008 - 6.5% | 07/08/2008 - 6.8
Insulin - Levemir and NovoRapid | Meter - Accu-Chek Compact Plus GT  Pasta is a gift that just keeps giving... |
09-07-2006, 05:55 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York, NY
Posts: 156
| | | Congrats! It's a great feeling when things just work!
174g for 2 slices of pizza seems way too high. What is your unit to gram conversion? |
09-07-2006, 07:56 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by caryj Congrats! It's a great feeling when things just work!
174g for 2 slices of pizza seems way too high. What is your unit to gram conversion? | From what I looked up online, I calculated the carbs to be 134g. The extra 40g were added on to account for the fat & protein. The 5 hour extended bolus was also done to deal with the fat & protein. These two slices weighed nearly an entire pound!!
My insulin:carb ratio for dinner was 1:28.
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Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed Paradigm 722 6/2008 + CGMS
Minimed Paradigm 715 5/2005 - 6/2008
13mm Silhouettes
Lifescan UltraSmart & UltraMini
Last A1c: 6/11/08: 5.4
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09-07-2006, 08:28 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York, NY
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Originally Posted by poodlebone My insulin:carb ratio for dinner was 1:28. | Yea, I thought you might say something about there (although it may seem out of wack for you, it could be perfect for you). I eat 2 slices at about 75-77grams, but my insulin:carb is 1:11 and I do pizza at 50/50 combo for 3:30 hours.
If the formula you have now is working well in the long term--there is no sense in changing it. I would check 15, 30, 60, 90, 120 minutes (the early times are good to check and see if you need more/less than 50% up front) after eating/bolus and actually see how your combo bolus is working for you. It's pretty cool when you can see the protien kick in an hour or more after and the combo bolus starts working on the rest of the food. The more you test and play, the more you learn about how your body reacts to specific types of foods: fatty, protien rich, sugary sauces, etc.
It's a fun game sometimes. |
09-07-2006, 11:44 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kent, WA USA
Posts: 2,612
| | Okay, so let me ask... Since I'm not on a pump yet, but am on MDI, how could I split up my shots so that I can have pizza when my family decides that's what's for dinner?
I'm not a big pizza lover, but occasionally I do get a craving for a slice.
Oh, I'm 1:5 on Humalog. |
09-08-2006, 06:15 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orlando, FL
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Originally Posted by Rikki Okay, so let me ask... Since I'm not on a pump yet, but am on MDI, how could I split up my shots so that I can have pizza when my family decides that's what's for dinner?
I'm not a big pizza lover, but occasionally I do get a craving for a slice.
Oh, I'm 1:5 on Humalog. | You could try something simple at first. For example, take your normal bolus amount but split it into 2 doses. Take half of your insulin with dinner and the other half 2 hours later.
I bolus for carbs and protein (equivalent carbs) when I do pizza, YMMV. |
09-08-2006, 07:55 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kent, WA USA
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Originally Posted by Cyborg You could try something simple at first. For example, take your normal bolus amount but split it into 2 doses. Take half of your insulin with dinner and the other half 2 hours later.
I bolus for carbs and protein (equivalent carbs) when I do pizza, YMMV. | Thanks! I'll try it this weekend. The kids want pizza so bad.  |
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